Future of Division III

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Wow, that totally backfired.  I was trying to make some misguided point about the state of education in this country, but now I'm lost.  Not even I remember what I was getting at.

[David Collinge]

Notice that the old definition of regions does not go away. There are three ways a game can be defined as in-region:

1) Schools are in the same region as defined by that sport's committee.
2) Schools are in the same Region (1, 2, 3, 4) as defined by the NCAA.
3) Schools are 200 miles apart or less, as determined by MS Streets and Trips 2004 on shortest-possible-distance setting.

Any of the three can qualify.

We'll adjust the football schedules appropriately.

Isn't there still a 4th way...

4) Schools are in the same conference.

So a basketball game between WashU. and NYU is still counted as in-region, even though it doesn't qualify under the first three formulae.

Right?

[Ralph Turner]

Yes, David.  That does apply to the multi-region conferences.

[Pat Coleman]

Good point, thanks.

[diehardfan]

Pat, I said it's a step forward - I'm happy, I'm just not elated!

Well you should be elated.  Now.  Do it.  Be elated.  I'm not kidding.

LMAO 

[diehardfan]

Notice that the old definition of regions does not go away. There are three ways a game can be defined as in-region:

1) Schools are in the same region as defined by that sport's committee.
2) Schools are in the same Region (1, 2, 3, 4) as defined by the NCAA.
3) Schools are 200 miles apart or less, as determined by MS Streets and Trips 2004 on shortest-possible-distance setting.

Any of the three can qualify.

We'll adjust the football schedules appropriately.

Isn't there still a 4th way...

4) Schools are in the same conference.

So a basketball game between WashU. and NYU is still counted as in-region, even though it doesn't qualify under the first three formulae.

Right?

Is David a lawyer, or is he a lawyer? 

I know, the MIAA and the CCIW could just make themselves east and west versions of the same conference... then the games would count, right? 

On the other hand, they would have to change their conference names.... a... LOT. 

[David Collinge]

Real lawyers never say

Right?

They say

According to the plain language of the law, the inescapable conclusion is that conference games are counted as if they were regional games.  Mr. Coleman was grossly negligent and clearly abusing his discretion when he failed to include this narrow but absolutely pivotal exception to the regional criteria.  Because of Mr. Coleman's standing and reputation in the D3 sports community, my clients were forced to doubt that the schedules that they had gone to great expense and hardship to create would now not have the anticipated number of regional games, thus casting their playoff chances into serious jeopardy.  This doubt led to severe mental distress in my clients, manifested by hair loss, ulceration, bleeding gums, and the loss of sexual function, damages for which my clients now demand relief.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Well done DC and I am glad I could make you laugh, April.

[ADL70]

I, as a brother of the bar, noted the conference game exception (inclusion?)  But I thought it was under the "as defined by that sport's committee" provision.  Is it not?

I still find NCAA's reliance on regions when it suits them and ignoring them when it doesn't to be inconsistent at best and contradictory at worst.

[jdean]

What an interesting typo: inconsistent at best and contradictory at wost. I'm sure the bar intended nothing deragatory about the Women's Study programs in the Univs. across the USA.

[Hawks88]

Looks like Birmingham-Southern is trying to decide about moving from DI to DIII. Don't know if they would consider adding football.

http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/1147858236179060.xml&coll=2

http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/kscarbinsky.ssf?/base/sports/1147857844179060.xml&coll=2

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

There's been a blog entry about this for a couple days.  They have quite the profile for d3; it may be a really good fit for moving up.

[Warren Thompson]

Looks as if David Pollick and the BSC trustees have stirred things up down there ....

[Ralph Turner]

Looks like Birmingham-Southern is trying to decide about moving from DI to DIII. Don't know if they would consider adding football.

http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/1147858236179060.xml&coll=2

There's been a blog entry about this for a couple days. They have quite the profile for d3; it may be a really good fit for moving up.

I am not particularly impressed with Mr. Kevin Scarbinsky's comprehension of or his scholarship of the nuances of the First Amendment.  He is free to print whatever he wishes.  However, an employee who is employed by an institution, serves at the pleasure of the institution and has no apparent capacity or authority to expound on the decision is not compelled to give information.  That is not a fair remark to make about those individuals or the professionalism that they should demonstrate in their jobs.

If Mr Scarbinsky had a D3 education, then we might want to investigate his granting institution for academic competence!

D1 is tough.  A couple of years ago, SMU in Dallas gave up its most successful program (in terms of national championships, Men's Track & Field) due to budget constraints.


Here is the blog.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Man that "First amendment" blow was way out of line, not to mention wrong and totally opposed to the journalistic integrity that he did well to maintain throughout the rest of the piece.

I hope there will be a retraction in the future.  I doubt even the BSC student newspaper would publish a "news" article with that much opinion in it.