FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[Bob.Gregg]

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2004= 34-10 W&J
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I believe that's the year the 'shot in the foot' happened early and often at Alumni Stadium....

1st possession--TC fumble, returned for TD.
2nd possession--TC punt, blocked, recovered at TC 9.  Two plays later, 14-0.

4th possession--TC gives ball up on downs.  W&J drives 84 yards, 11 plays, 21-0. game over early in 2nd quarter.

The other games on the list were in play late in the game....

[the_burghboy]

CC, make no mistake, W&J has come back to the PAC.

I'm just glad to see someone else post this.  I'm starting to feel like a crusty old guy and resisting the urge to make up stories about walking to school...uphill...both ways

[Cleveland Cartel]

Bob,

That Thiel homecoming game was Attrocious!  Thiel never gave up but WJ not only was the better team that day, but that season as well.  Not a good way to celebrate homecoming. 

Also, From saturdays game:

WJ's defense is looking good but had some downfalls particularly in the secondary which i thought would be the stronghold with Cherish who I believe was an All american pick?    Could be wrong, but he did lay the wood to some Thiel recievers over the middle but they were able to hang on.  Thiel actually outgained WJ by about 30 yards, and the rushing yards went to WJ by about 20 or so 139 (WJ)  to 115 (Thiel).

Great Credit must also go out ot Seidbotham the Place Kicker for WJ as he has consisently hit big time field goals in his career.  Two big ones and the extra points to help seal the deal against the Tomcats.  I would say he has done a solid job in replacement of the Mayor of Pittsburgh Luke Ravenstahl who was also a standout.

[AC24#724]

Poster's
What truely was a great game  to liste to on radio  and also that with all the hype up front during week one would hardly imagine that after 59 minutes 50 seconds would game go down to final play.
WJ was relentless in their quest to end game as Winner but Thiel gave galliant effort. Turnover's proved to be brutal but the play calling on the end aound pass play was a play that Coach Lep would like to have back.
Was a hec of game for the PAC and all the fans that follow confernce.

South Willy.....I see your trip up to Bethany game was a sweet trip. Homecoing victory.....Bethany did roll up some nice numbers and hope to continue that this week against Waynesburg team. Earl weather foecast calls for dry weather Saturday mid 50's.
Should be fun to see if they get 2nd PAC win in  a row against a hungry Jacket Football team, we''l see.

[Bob.Gregg]

...I'm starting to feel like a crusty old guy and resisting the urge to make up stories about walking to school...uphill...both ways

Let's get a couple things straight, here, burghboy.

You ARE a crusty old guy.  And what's really wild is that, if you played at W&J in the last 25 years, I'm an even crustier, or at least OLDER guy!

But it WAS UPHILL to school...BOTH WAYS!

[TC442005]

CC
That 34-10 lost was a horrible homecoming...Alot of people forget that Steve Minton had 97 yds in the first half, and then the opening third quarter drive by W&J took close to 9 minutes off the clock.  That is what killed Us that game...We put Minton in the garage the whole second half. and tried to play with W&J through the Air, Not happening

Burgh Boy
And aagain with this "Rivalry thing"  W&J players get up for Thiel week now adays  Trust me They do, cause last year we were going back and forth with former highschool team mates and their defense was worried about our offense...it is not like in your days, when W&J would bring there JV up to Greenville High School

Leip and His staff has put "Us/ Thiel" in positions to win games, but when we were3-7, we didn't finish as players.  the last couple of years we had the experience and deterimination to Finish and we had players that made the big plays.   This year's Team has a solid foundation and they just need to have the confidence we had last 2 years to finish.   I have not been to pratices, but i feel they need some people to step up and take over practices and games. 
i do know that this team after the Albion lost was worried about "Play off's"  right there showed me that their mindset was completely off topic.  Now it is time to shut up and play for a winning season.  And possible see some of those stud freshman get some Experience.

BANE Hall Shout out

[the_burghboy]

Burgh Boy
And aagain with this "Rivalry thing"  W&J players get up for Thiel week now adays  Trust me They do, cause last year we were going back and forth with former highschool team mates and their defense was worried about our offense...it is not like in your days, when W&J would bring there JV up to Greenville High School

Well, by all means that proves it!

I mean, as a player, who wouldn't 'get up' for a team, or want to defeat an opponent that had a former high school teammate on it?

I can't believe ABC doesn't do regional coverage after reading that post for the 2007 matchup. 

[PittTBCW]

So because the games are close, it's a rivalry?

I have to think that it probably wasn't a 'rivalry' game from the W&J end until they actually lost last year, and probably needs to happen more in terms of actual wins from Thiel before it's classified as such.

I agree it's closer and not a 'given'.  We know what close counts in, and football isn't one of them.

I think since the 17-10 game in Washington its been a rivalry game.

[the_burghboy]

I would respond but Im too busy trying to get a referral from a doctor for crustiness.

[South Willy]

AC24..

Thanks for the weather forecast and if it stays dry, I hope Bethany will make a game of it. Senior QB is starting to spread the ball around to all 4 receivers which makes coverage much more than just keying on Parker. BC must limit turnovers(fumbled and fell behind by 7 points last week) and run the ball for 70-90 yds to be in the game.
WC running backs should have a big game but hopefully Bison can keep the points in the 21-24 range.

[Cleveland Cartel]

South Willy,

We are all too enamored on the WJ Thiel game and atleast I havent given any respect to Bethany for their first conference win since 2001 i believe the stats said.


Bison's the coaching staff seems to be going in the right direction and the players are responding well.  Great win against GCC who might be in a transition for quite sometime now, but that is still a solid victory against a GCC team that is not a slouch.

More victories from the Bisons and TJ Parker and company I might be jumping on the bandwagon!  Having more competition in this conference will only help elevate the level of competiviness and play in the PAC.  I am exicited and so should the fans from Bethany.  Other than that solid win and I am very happy for those guys especially the seniors who have been working hard for the last 4 years.

[AC24#724]

South Willy
Yes, turnovers can be critical and that is for both teams as showed this past week at Thiel although WJ fumbled BUT they got 2 of their 3 back....imagine what could of happened if that would of happened, possibly shoe would be on other foot with Thiel win.
Getting back to Bethany/Waynesburg....dry day for Saturday is early forecast of 50 at game time but sunny. Should leave for good game in two teams that do thinsg differently, Jackets-Run, Bethany Pass. Defense that stands tallest and offense that has least turnovers making difference. Bethany does have some payback in mind over last few years for sure but speed can be factor here.
CC
You made some good points over lastw eek in Thiel/WJ game but that game as you would indicate is in the books and history. Moving on to week 7 this year, how do you see th games unfolding? Waynesburg heading into Thiel at top 3-0 in conference....did anyone notice that? Maybe it weill be short lived but th team that started 0-3 might be back on track where both sides of ball are getting better. The Bethany/Waynesburg match-up probably is game of week in PAC for if Bethany wins they still have remaining WJ at end of season which could factor big implications...alot to happen before then though for sure.

Bring on week #7.

[Bob.Gregg]

It should be an interesting twist Saturday at Cameron Stadium.

A great number of Thomas Jefferson High School graduates have roamed the W&J sidelines over the years, including TJ quarterback Brian Dawson who graduated with nearly every W&J passing record.

Now, Saturday afternoon, one that got away is going to try to beat the Red & Black.  Westminster qb Kevin Franz leads the PAC with 206.4 passing yards per game.  Franz helped the Jaguars to the AAA state title in 2004, though not as a quarterback.  Franz had three int's on the season, including one against Manheim Central in the state finals.

[Cleveland Cartel]

AC,

I am stoked for week 7 with the game against the Yellow Jackets and it will be a great game two weeks in a row to watch in greenville.  I am also particulary excited about WJ's homecoming with two big names Ravenstahl and Goodell coming back to their old stomping ground.  If I was a player for WJ Iwould be excited and trying to reach out and shake the hand of those two successful men. 

In Greenville though will be a tough matchup and a hardnose game.  Whoever keeps the turnovers low and can run the ball successfully will win the game.  Also, the key factor is who will be able to keep the defense on their toes by passing through the air.  Thiel had the advantage there as Blankenship put on a passing clinic last week against WJ.  NEver count out the Yellow Jackets with two dual threat running backs which one is the alltime leading rusher with Abels.  Great game should be a treat to watch seems like the weather will be much cooler than last weeks game in the mid 50's. Last week was in the 70's easily and the temp on the field was probably in the 80's with the field turf.

Good Luck to all teams and stay health PAC!

[AC24#724]

CC, I must admit that I was very surprised how Mr Blankenship threw the ball last week, he did make a big difference in addtion to his running. I had heard whilelistening to game that going into game that he was 3TD' passes and 8 Picks. That was a big game step up for him, possibly he getting better feel for game day.
I will also agree with your assumption on passing game being big for Jacket/Tomcat game, Both teams like run game but something may have to give. Dual threat at both schools in run game but I did hear that Minton got hurt last week and not sure of his aliment/severiyt knowing he did hurt ankle last year.
Jacket backs are very quick, different style runners but also have some good WR too that QB will need to get ball to keep things loose for them. Yes, anyone can figure that stopping run game at Waynesburg will stahl them somewhat but D is making big plays too.
They will be etsted by Bethany this week that loves to throw ball and the there will be will he have enough time too get in groove and not be scrambling most of day as did TMC QB.
Should be good game though....and possibly coming into Thiel at 3-0 and on top which should make for some good pregame festivities and also key game.
It's been a quiet week on the poster board after last weeks big game at Thiel but it's almost prediction time for week 7.
South Willy, are you headed to Waynesburg??
Big Alumni roling into WJ country.........will Coach Hand have any surprises to stop WJ Offense?