FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[Hawks88]

The Saints have alot to play for after dropping a game they should have won last season at Huntingdon.

Not sure what you mean here, SaintsFan. TMC didn't play Huntingdon last year. Year before last, TMC beat HC in Montgomery on the fluke two point conversion in OT.

[Bob.Gregg]

W&J rolls behind Mendel's five touchdowns.

Waynesburg jumps on, holds off Thiel.

Winners meet next Saturday for PAC crown at Cameron Stadium.

Let the noise begin!

[SaintsFAN]

whoops my memory has screwed me again. 

Fluke?  Sounds kind of salty

[SaintsFAN]

No flukes today.  TMC played some defense (set a school record for rushing yards allowed) and put the rock up to the tune of 384 yards.  Maybe the Wash and Jeff game will be interesting to some in this board after all.

[Wes Mantooth]

I think the next two weeks are going to be intersting for the Presidents. The D has been awfull all year. GCC had 250 yards at half time and they do not come close to TMC or Waynesburg talent wise. If teams have a run game and short passing game you are going to have success against the Pres. TMC and Waynesburg posses those two. Good news is i dont think anyone can stop the Presidents O so im looking for some shoot outs to end the year which W&J is usually successful in. Also both games are at Cameron a place where W&J doesnt lose.  I am impressed the way the Pres O has come together as i said at the beginning of the year that the Young QB was going to be a good one. We will see in the coming weeks. If TMC or Waynesburg beat the Pres its going to be a PACless playoffs.

[denfd]

Wes, you're a bit too harsh on W&J's defence. Against Hanover  they were good. Against Westminster they were ok, thanks to big plays. Against Allegheny they were very good. And against Thiel they were good enough. I do agree with you that the defense has not found an answer to their opposition's short passes.

[Cleveland Cartel]

Waynesburg vs Thiel Notes:

Was at the game saturday and I came away impressed with the size and speed of waynesburg.  They have solid size all the way around on the Offensive and Defensive line.  That helped bully Thiel's smaller D around all day including three scores in the first quarter off their first three drives.  Truly dominated up front for pretty much the entire day.  The WR's are also very talented and have size.  Their QB throws a tight spiral but his recievers were going up and catching the ball at the highest point and coming down with a big catch. 

They have found a nice mix of Daniels and Abels for the entire game.  I would of liked to see more of Daniels late in the game, but I understand you want your bigger back pounding the ball up the middle for 4 yards everytime and Abels will do that for you.  Waynesburg started the game with Daniels and when they were in Goal line situations they brought in Abels, and also number 9 who is their fullback is a big young man.  They guy was blowing up LB's all day and quick enough to be blocking on their sweeps. 
Truly impressed with Waynesburg and their team as a whole.  They played solid football and their Defense is for real.  Anthony Taylor is always hawking around the ball and they play fundamentally sound football taking solid angles and steps to the ball. 

If anyone is goign to take out the Prez between TMore and Waynesburg it is goign to be Waynesburg.  They are just as big if not bigger than the Prez and have the speed at all skill positions to exploit the deep ball. 

QB has a tendency to throw the ball up while pressure is being applied, and that could lead to turnovers and an unsuccessful day for the Yellow Jackets in Cameron next week.

Although,  I have never been a fan of Shepas credit must be given when due for he and his staff have their players believing and playing together like champions.  If Waynesburg still had Dumm at QB they could probably be undefeated right now.  Shepas has his team playing good football at the right time of the season.

Look for the game of the year to be in Cameron this week.  Great work Yellow Jackets as you were the better team saturday.

[Cleveland Cartel]

Denfd,

Mantooth is right and you also agree about not being able to defend the short passes, but WJ's passing defense is being exploited at a very high rate.  GCC had minus four rushing yards for the entire game against Thiel, and if Waynesburg is smart they will attack the short to midlevel zones in the passing game agaisnt WJ.

Waynesburg I believe even suprised Thiel as they passed most of the first half up and down the field on Thiel.  Mainly, short passes which they completed at a high effieciency, and they also mixed in the run game very nicely withi Daniels and Abels.  Thiel was not prepared for the passing game so early in the game, and Waynesburg put together long drives to put away the Tomcats 21- 0 in the first quarter.

If Waynesburg can execute the same way the did Saturday and play with intensity for 4 quarters it will be an exciting game in cameron.  WJ will continue to be the offensive juggernaut as they have been, but they will have trouble with Waynesburgs Defense which is big and Quick.  I know WJ's line is experenced and probably the best in the PAC, but Waynesburg is filling holes early combined with big guys up front it leads to small openings for Mendel.  Mendel will have a tough time all day to be honest with you, and they will need Swallow and the WR's to have a huge game which they are very capable of doing. 

Good luck next week PREZ and Yellow Jackets!!

[Cleveland Cartel]

South Willy,


What Happened this weekend to the Bison's?  Was it truly the injuries at WR that affected their game?  They were mandhandled easily by the Titans on saturday and I was a bit suprised by the final outcome.

[AC24#724]

Poster's, Sorry the swammy was not in the house to make his last week's selections but that won't happen again with the biggest game of season in PAC coming up this weekend in Washington, that being said I guess you would of maybe thought Waynesburg was going to be his selection in upset win which all newspaper sports guys locally picked Thiel in a 6-0 vote.

CC, you really were in tune for the game cause your assessment was to the "T", liked all items that you mentioned. RB mix and QB good play calling.
WJ will see the films and see they have a battle upcoming. Coach Sirianni knows their is alot of talent at Waynesburg and 4 years ago at Waynesburg/WJ  reign ended.

I too....was at game Saturday and with my earlier article last week talking "speed" and how it makes a difference....well it was evident on Saturday and the 1-2 punch of the RB's Abels and Daniels  didn't get big long runs but their were  a couple of those that were a step from explosion but consistant the whole game.
Big lead and resillence of Jackets both sides of ball and wanting last years payback and now this is the 3rd of the 4 teams that beat them last year...TMC, Grove City, Thiel and next up WJ.
I can tell you the game 4 years ago when QB Edwards had dislocated his shoulder was a game...this one has the  makings of another one right around the corner.
Prez will be real stiff test for they always have good program, good athletes and always at home  the 12th player(referees) on field as did Thiel this past weekend with QB ruffing the passer calls when the O Lineman pushed the D lineman into QB late 3rd and 4th quarter's and the last Thiel TD pass was almost 2 yards out of bounds and the ref was watching the birds in trees when he made call. I wished I could of seen the one over again....startling it was.
I can rememeber the famous huddle three years ago at Cameron when they pow-poweed in middle of field and the call ended up going the Prez's way on a 35-31 win there. 3 QB interceptions on Dumm killed them that day but it  still went down to final series  Last year it was also good game until Krepps when to the house on punt return to pad lead nicely
I know Coaching staff of Jackets will have them so sky high and also know that another PAC crown is up for grabs.
Who will shine? Who won't? Defense or Offense? Skilled player's? QB's
I already know ..........but as week goes by the Swammy will better assess the game that which I wished started in 15 minutes.
Gotta get on the Road................let the talk begin.........

[AC24#724]

Poster's???Is everyone out of town or studying hard for this week predictions on biggest game of season in PAC?

TMC starting to get things clicking....running D is always a test for opposing Run game.
Westminster showed big numbers last week and really steam rolled Bethany...to alot of folks surprise including Swammy's.
Grove City moved ball good against WJ but then the bottom fell out in 2nd quarter.

[Cleveland Cartel]

AC,

About GCC, usually with their wing T it will take one half for a team to start to reconize the plays and make the proper adjustments.  The Wing T is effective in the first half but usually the coaches can make the adjustments from viewing whats going on above. 

You can practice like crazy for the wing T but the practice squads just are not going to be effective and as fluid as a team who has been running the same plays for the last 15 weeks.  So it takes time to adjust to the timing and deception of the GCC wing T, and at halftime you can key in on where the Oline are going on certain plays, such as pulling and who they attempt to block in their schemes. 

All teams have tendencies and you can key in on those usually at halftime to make the adjustments.  Thats what WJ did and they won easily in the second half.

[Cleveland Cartel]

AC,

I was also surpised by the score of the BC vs WC game this weekend and alot had to do with the fact that Bethany faced adversity for the first time all season with their depth and talent at WR gone due to injury.  Including a few pieces on the Oline from what I have heard.  With that in mind WC was able to double team and probably favor their zone defense in the secondary towards the side that Parker was on all day. 

Is WC starting to makes some noise yes, and Hand probably has that team going in the right direction for next year but they will be continue to have struggles with such a young team.  Tomcats started this way in 2001 and it has paid dividends for them in the future, and Coach Hand can have the same success in the future.

[Cleveland Cartel]

Big Game this Saturday at Cameron Field

Does anyone have access to seeing the how these two teams stack up with their Olines and Dlines to see how they matchup.

Bob you might be able to help out in supplying the info for the WJ O and D lines.  Just to give the fans an idea of the comparisons up front and help predict who will the battles of upfront.

[Wes Mantooth]

Cartel a little info on the o line.

Well W&J has Chris Teter and Chris Hickey on the left side and they are both All Americans and 3 year starters so i like that match up. Teter i am sure will draw Czerwein from Waynesburg who is a great d lineman who started as a freshman when i played.Dave Bucar is a decent center who is on the way to being really good as he is only a sophmore.  Matt Houy is from a very good Gateway high school team and very good as just a sophmore and probably the biggest lineman up front. Eric Sibenac rounds out the line and he is the scrappy player not blessed with size and athletiscm but finds a way to get the job done on a high level. I would say they average a good 270 across the board. Coach Young works these guys tails off and they are always ready to play. I like them in this match up. Question to Waynesburgers do they still run a 3-4 D or has that changed with the new staff as the 3-4 usually didnt allow us to run the ball but we could pass all day.