FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[Bob.Gregg]

W&J's offensive line:

Chris Teter    Chris Hickey   Dave Bucar     Matt Houy      Eric Sibenac
6-2, 280  sr   6-0, 280  sr    6-0, 260  so   6-2, 290  so    6-1, 275  jr

[AC24#724]

Wes, nice assessment on O-line, Yes, got some size and good bit of experience to bring to game, defintely the strength of the Prez team....just creating seams for slash RB to hit hole and get to linebacker for nice gain...that will be tested by either 3-4 or 4-3 which they both play decently or have gotten alot better over last few weeks for sure. Speed may be key here as I stree that here too.in addition to skilled player's RB's and Wideouts.  Czerwein is an excellet d-lineman....just doesn't quit and other player's feed off him and Linebackers are under-rated. alll 3 are players  bring differnt peices to Defense.
O- Line  for Jackets is young but has really strted to jell but with the folks that have to block for,....things are just make inital block and go get someone else cause the RB's are by real quick while looking for next hole and when seam is there bye bye...no question....two different runner;s that can break one on any play. QB starting to feel more confident in passing game in short, middle and heave deep when needed.  If this piece of offense gets rolling the RB's will get good gains each time and when you over-play it will hurt you.
Kicking game is pretty equal if things get down to filed goals but....they won't happen.
Thinsg starting to heat up.
CC
Agree with you read on wing-t and how adjustments can be made and can halt things rather quickly...but brusing backs at GC are not speed and vison backs like  Waynesburg...at first game of season against Salisbury proved that things can happen if O-line creates even thei smallest hole and with brusier FB Davis laucning people into space as he did last week reading his block and hitting hole for nice yardage is how the RB 's feed of hm his key blocks but also can go around it before the block is made as well
Conditioning will be big in this game.

[Darkside90]

Hey Cartel,

I wasn't at the TC vs WC game so let me ask how was Waynesburg able to run the ball as effectively as they did against the Darkside D.  I think you or someone else mentioned that WC had a young O-line, and if that's true it shocks me even more considering Thiel's D-line has alot of experience.  The past two years Thiel's run defense has been extraordinary, but the last two years WC has been able to run on them.  Last year I know they were missing a few key players on defense, including their defensive captain and leading tackler Tommy Woz, but what do you think happened this year.  Daniels and Abels are good, but we shut them down and I mean Shut Them Down in 04'  with a defensive unit not nearly as technically sound or consistent as this or last years defense.

P.S 
There is no doubt in my mind that Thiel will bounce back!!!
#90 Tomcat 4 Life

[Cleveland Cartel]

mantooth AC and Bob great stuff and apprecate the info on the Lines, players, and the schemes.

WJ has probably the strongest and biggest line in the PAC but Waynesburg will provide a punch in the mouth as they were ready to brawl with the Tomcats with the pregame scuffle that almost took place and escalated.  Will be interesting and any stats on the Yellow Jackest oline would still be appreciated.


Darkside90 it is always a pleasure to hear from you my friend!  Hope all is well DOC! 

About the game last weekend I could write a book about what I thought happened, but ill start with this.  The yellow Jackets came out with the intensity and stuffed it down our throats for the first three drives.  Not just 5 or 7 play drives but 10  12 and 14 play drives covering the length of the field. 
Thiel seemed to be playing in slow motion and not with the pregame intensity that was shown when the pregame scuffle happened.  Rossi was going nuts on the sidelines trying to get his players to stuff gaps and make plays, but it just wasn't happening.  They were bigger, stronger, and more physical than the Tomcats D.  Now you might say that hasn't slowed us down in the past what happened?  Coupled with playing in slowmotion and not getting 11 blue jerseys to the ball was the problem.  There were a few players that I would love to single out and say was putting forth the energy, but that wouldnt't be fair to the rest of the Defense that has always been strong for the Tomcats through the rebuilding years. 

They were bigger, stronger, more physical, and playing with the intensity needed to open gaps and holes and their backs who are very quick and strong hit them hard.  Linebackers weren't there to make plays or would get pushed out of the play by the guards or TE's. 

Darkside90 I have never seen a team move the ball 3 consecutive drives on the Tomcats that were 10 or more plays and converted on atleast 7 3rd downs in those 3 drives to keep those drives alive.  Just incredible they were flawless and the Tomcats couldn't do anything to stop it.

We needed #90, #93, #94 and than it would of been a game!  Hope all is well my friend and that this helps!

[Cleveland Cartel]

AC,

Czerwin has my vote for best D-lineman in the PAC and the Yellow Jackets truly do feed off of his intensity and playmaking abilities.  If he can get his swagger goign early and often agains the Prez it will be a long day for Mr. Swallow at QB.  Question is what type of schemes will the Jackets coaching staff come up to free him up more often and make plays? 

I agree with you that the Yellow Jacket D has multiple looks and it makes it harder for an offense to prepare for all the different looks, but with the athleticism on both sides of the ball its going to be tough to move the ball on the Yellow Jackets D. 

When I saw the pregame trash talking going on i figured typical Yellow Jackets and Tomcats, but one there for sure was your guys backed it up! 

Shepas has his guys playing their best football of the year at the right time of the season.  If not for the losses at Shenadoah and Huntingdon Waynesburg is sitting pretty starting to take a peek at possibly being playoff bound with a victory this saturday.  And if they would of executed like they did against Thiel they win those two games hands down.

Lastly,  I still am not a Shepas Fan.....

[AC24#724]

CC
Your synopsis again was right on the money....the pregame scuffle in endzone set such a great tone before first snap and I have never seen the Jackets so fired up on side line in the 4 years I have been big fan/spectator of the team since my move into Waynesburg land. the first quarter was without question a master piece but if you think of last years game it was also 21-0 when RB had to leave game at beginning of 2nd quarter due to leg cramps after gaining+100 in first quarter. Thiels big game players last year were difference in them getting back into game with QB and Chambers putting on clinic at throw and catch and then run. Two toally different teams from year ago. Jackets were just controlling line of scrimmage last week and when that happens with good backs you can get the 8-10-12 play drives.
Let's get to O Line of Jackets...average 250 up front, two seniors are inside guards who have quick feet and can get out  to pull for sweep plays or counter's. Freshman big at 290 at Right tackle can move you with power...center at 265 takes up some room and has good blocking ability and LT plays at 230 but also is used as Tight End to with 87 Wright who has strong desire to make plays. Yes.....no All American accolades from any of them but they are really playing as a unit and are strong young men with one thing oin mind right now.
Prez has some experience in the O line but Jackets strength is they have 3 of 4 D-line back from last year with Czerwien leading the way.
Member last years game when he was up against #70 from Prez and speed was too much where he went inside arounnd and occassionally tried going through. Line backing crew really playing unit ball, with #10 Steele making big hits and good plays all season, 49 and 47 good coverage people in flats bu sure know how to get in back field pressuring QB.
DBacks got alot of good looks last week from Thiel for they had to go to passing game down big early and came up with some big picks did #8 Taylor. #2 Plays Safety alot like Cherish from WJ cause they can both make big hitting plays and cover field well.
No question, Prez will need to control line of scrimmage with run game and keep Jackets offense off the  field and try and get early lead. If the run game does not click for Prez....Wideouts of Prez are all real good with M,cCafferty big play guy on team. Likes slant and hitch and go routes. QB will be running for whatever opening he can get from swarming D of Jackets. On the other side of ball, Jackets backs just too talented with O Line opening seems but FB lead blocks are crushing as I saw #1-Thiel CB  last week go flying 5 yards in air from lead sweep block. At 235 pounds and solid I wouldn't want that task of him coming at you. Backs have real nice speed and sure look for the next hole real quickly. Explosion is the word the descibes them when they hit hole that does have a gap and then sit back and watch what happens next.
This should be such a great game to watch, as a fan...can you imagine the , the players feelings.....excitement with PAC title on Line?

[Cleveland Cartel]

AC,

Great assesments and i agree with you that your fullback last saturday was just bullying the Thiel CB's and LB's around the field and your attesment to him blowing up our corner a few yards deep is sound.  The fullback was a difference maker in the game and to be honest was something Thiel didn't utilize or have in their game on Saturday.  Their fullback was in for the very first play of the game and after that play there wasn't a fullback in any more of Thiel's offensive plays.

[Wes Mantooth]

From the sounds of things from AC and Cleveland i just hope W&J can survive the game let alone win it. W&J apparently is facing a early 90's version of The Nebraska Cornhuskers Not the Waynesburg Yellow(Orange)Jackets.  all in fun guys predictions tommorrow.

Good to See Darkside 90 in the posting world. Very very good d lineman for the Tomcats.

[Cleveland Cartel]

Wes,

Funny you should joke around about the cornhuskers, but seeing the Yellow Jackets in all White and orange.  The Yellow Jackets actually looked like a big 12 rival of the Cornhuskers in being the Texas Longhorns. 

All joking aside the Prez being at home need to bring their intensity and keep that level of play throughout the game.  Its going to be a tremendous game in Cameron, and last time there was a big conference game with the PAC championship on the line at Cameron WJ lost in OT 38-35.  WJ held the total yards edge 398 to 365, but ultimately it was the 5 INT's that kept Thiel in the ball game including the final one in Over time to secure the victory for the Tomcats.

Game of the Year in Cameron hopefully....Predictions still to come....

[Wes Mantooth]

There have been lots of the games of the century for W&J. I can remember the game of the century already this year @ Thiel which W&J won and were outgained. I can remember being at Thiel in 04 for the shot in the foot game that was supposed to be the game of the century. Wayneburg that same year  In 01 it was 6-0 vs 6-0 as Bethany was shelled 35-14.  W&J will be fired up for Waynesburg no matter what with the history in that last few years. It is going to be a good one that i will be attending. Interesting topic for discussion which stud d lineman shows up Czerwein or Broadland. That is going to be the difference. W&J has been actually good against the run this year albeit the Salisbury game but they do run a triple option scheme that is tough to replicate in practice. The thing that they have been awful for about 3 years now is the short pass game. I can remember Jeff Dumm in 04 throwing bubble screen after screen and Thiel doing the same this year. I look for Waynesburg to do the same but maybe get their backs on the short passes. Anyway more to come tomm with predictions.

[Bob.Gregg]

SAD story from the Sharon newspaper:

http://www.sharonherald.com/local/local_story_294215329.html

[oldtimer4774]

Looks like Darious's football career at Thiel is over.......its too bad he's such a talented kid.  Hanging out with the wrong crowd.

[Wes Mantooth]

Thurs night Prediction time. Really need to rebound after i was 1-4 last wk i beleive. This weekend questions will be answered. Sounds like the disappointing season for the Tomcats is continuing.

Bethany- 7 @ TMC-38

TMC continues to roll up to next weeks showdown. Collier runs for 110 and Stellman throws for 250 and 3 TD's.

Westminster - 14 @ Frostburg - 27

Franz throws for good yardage but Frostburg is too much and they pull this one out.

Rochester - 28 @ GCC-14

Rochester comes on the New turf and waltzs right back off of it with a win.

AND NOW DRUM ROLL PLEASE...........THE GAME OF THE CENTURY AND SUPER BOWL all rolled into one.

Waynesburg -27 @ W&J- 38

Shootout is one word to describe this matchup. Abels and Daniels held mostly in check in the run game as they combine for 110 yards. But Tress Cobb throws the ball 35 times and keeps them in the game. Abels and Daniels both have 5 receptions. Mendel also held in check as he has 80 yards and a TD. Difference is the young W&J QB(Swallow) who has grown up and he throws for 275 and 3 TD's one to Ravida and two to Mcafferty. Cherish picks one off that gives W&J the cushion they need to pull off the V.

Good Luck to All

Go W&J

[Cleveland Cartel]

Bob,

Definetly a sad story for the those two and their families and the extended family of the Thiel Football Team.  I have heard rumors for quite sometime about this and why Thompson was not in the lineup or present for last weeks game, but with all said he is a very talented athlete who is a bright young man and I wish the best for him at this time. 

This does not help the recruiting aspect with this type of bad press in the news, and with the Tomcats graduating a bulk of their starters the last few years these new recruits are needed to fill in. 

[Cleveland Cartel]

Prediction Friday:

Bethany vs TMC

T-M-C its dynamite!  TMC takes this victory home with a solid outing as always from the Defense and the Offense is on track as the Bisons just do not have the defensive playmakers or the run stoppers up front.  Gets out of hand and ugly early and often.

TMC 35
Bethany 7

WC vs Frostburg

Westminster too young and small to take on the likes of Frostburg. 

F'Burg 21
WC 7

Rochester takes care of the Wing T in the second half to earn a comeback victory over the Didonato lead Wolverines.  They need Mario Manningham of Michigan to catch the balls Didonato throws.

Chester 28
GCC  21


Waynesburg vs WJ         PAC game of the year.....
As Mantooth Said we are going to need a drum roll for this one....

Swallow finds the defense is harder to pick away at than Thiel's Defense but does hook up for a couple of scores.  The run game for WJ is they key for this years squad and mendel does his part in rushing for over 80 yards and a score also in this contest.  The big question is can the Waynesburg D have enough of an effective to beat the Prez. 
As opposite of the Cherish prediction I have to go with Anthony Taylor as the best ahtlete in the Yellow Jackest defense who will have a big play to turn the tide.

Daniels and Abels are effective early but eventually the passing game of Waynesburg is going to have to be dead on in order to have success on the ground.  WJ has the athletes and also is able to not give up the big play, but they will give yards but not the deep ball.  WJ earns redemption and the right to respresent the PAC in the playoffs with a hard fought victory.  The Jackets hang tight but Mendel is the X factor and the experience up front for WJ will give them the W.  PREZ!!!!!!! Kyle Sidebotham from Cuy Falls strokes a field goal from 42 yards out to put the icing on the cake.  Get the champaign flowing in Washington!

Final Score

WJ 31
Waynesburg 24