FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

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Cleveland Cartel

Bob,

So is driving 200-300 miles and playing a team WJ has beaten in the past better than staying at home in the Burgh? and playing a team who has had a reasonably weak schedule and who WJ could exploit in the passing game?
And played a conference rival who WJ has also played and beat this season.

From the sounds of your response it seems as if the coaches are comfortable playing at CNU?!?!??

Bob.Gregg

#1621
Cleveland,

I am not a coach.  I don't speak for the coaches.

In fact, because of a snafu here in Washington, I haven't even spoken TO the coaches.

My posts have nothing to do with whether W&J's road is easier or harder, more favorable or less.  And it's 415 miles each way to CNU.

My post specifically dealt with the correctness of the matchups, and that the desired (by some) matchup of W&J & CMU would have been wrong based on the criteria published by the NCAA.  Not that they didn't do that in other cases, but that doesn't make doing it again right.
Been wrong before.  Will be wrong again.

Rick Akins

I have ranted in other places on this site about the bracket fiasco.  Bob, great discussion of the exact seeding issues. Ralph, I agree 100% with your analysis of the even more common sense idea (see d3 football playoff projections) of W & J at CMU--30 minutes away!!!  If you want me to fax or email you Ralph the Eric Drennan column from the Temple Telegram yesterday , let me know.  The quotes from Mr. Burrow of the ncaa were mind-boggling about the Millsaps bus ride, etc.  The only thing as bad as what was done is the pathetic attempt to justify it.

CNU85

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 15, 2006, 12:35:48 PM

CNU is benefitting, and they're out there, crowing "We should be at home".  Sorry, fellas.  You're at home--it's a gift from Mileage-Gate '06.  Take it and be happy.


Thanks! I'm happy! No more whining from me!

South Willy

To All,

Thanks for all the information. It seems simple. Why couldn't we get a #4 vs #6 and #5 vs #7 since we already got a #2 vs #3. The two teams traveling makes no sense and there doesn't appear to be any argument to support it. As CC said, let the chips fall where they fall or screw with all the rules to the benefit of all brackets.

Bob.Gregg

This bracket looks significantly different with the MAPPOINT calculations sted the "mileage chart".

#1  Wesley hosts Dickinson (no change)
#2  UMHB hosts Millsaps
#3  Hardin-Simmons hosts W&J
#4  Carnegie-Mellon hosts CNU

Having just typed that, it's not really a mileage issue that caused this.  If CMU hosts CNU, some people would think it was a scrimmage game, with Big Bird, Elmo and the gang performing at halftime..
Been wrong before.  Will be wrong again.

CNU85

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 15, 2006, 04:21:06 PM

Having just typed that, it's not really a mileage issue that caused this.  If CMU hosts CNU, some people would think it was a scrimmage game, with Big Bird, Elmo and the gang performing at halftime..

In the words of Mork.....R-R-R

Bob.Gregg

There've been postings about the Captains benefitting from the snafu.  And, looking strictly at numbers and seedings and such, CNU is benefitting.   But they aren't alone from that standpoint.

#5  CNU plays #6 W&J instead of #4  CMU.  The Captains also play at home, sted in Pittsburgh.

#4  CMU draws the #7 Millsaps instead of #5 CNU.

#6  W&J plays, still on the road, but at #5 CNU instead of #3 HSU.  Of course, it's a bus ride (6+ hours) instead of a flight....

Been wrong before.  Will be wrong again.

Bob.Gregg

#1628
CMU--Carnegie-Mellon
CNU--Christopher Newport
COU--Council of Ontario Universities (travel issues)
CPU--Central Processing Unit (NCAA's doesn't work)
CQU--Central Queensland University (travel issues)
CRU--Conflict Resolution Unit (Puget Sound area--serious travel issues)
CSU--Charles Stewart University (Australia--talk about travel??)
CTU--Counter Terrorist Unit (talk about taking out the enemy)
CUU--Conference on Universal Usability (NCAA should have attended with MAPPOINT in hand)
CVU--Cluster Verification Utility (yup, it was a cluster action alright)
CWU--Communications Workers Union ('can you hear me NOW?!!')
CXU--"Cxu vi parolas Esperanton?"  I have absolutely no idea..

Been wrong before.  Will be wrong again.

Cleveland Cartel

Bob,

Do not find that to defeating the purpose of rankings if you are not going to obide by them because of location?


Ralph Turner

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 15, 2006, 04:26:00 PM
There've been postings about the Captains benefitting from the snafu.  And, looking strictly at numbers and seedings and such, CNU is benefitting.   But they aren't alone from that standpoint.

#5  CNU plays #6 W&J instead of #4  CMU.  The Captains also play at home, sted in Pittsburgh.

#4  CMU draws the #7 Millsaps instead of #5 CNU.

#6  W&J plays, still on the road, but at #5 CNU instead of #3 HSU.  Of course, it's a bus ride (6+ hours) instead of a flight....

#7 Millsaps gets #4 CMU instead of #2 UMHB!  They are my upset special! ;)

erniesfreestyle

that was two of the most boring pages i have ever browsed through on post board i couldnt even read the crap yinz were discussing bottom line is the bracket is out, we know who everyone is playing, nothing is going to change, STOP WHINNING. lets go back to talking about how sweet teter is and how good of a kicker kyle sidebotham is.
south side columbiana county

Bob.Gregg

Always good to hear from you, freestyle.
Been wrong before.  Will be wrong again.

EC Warrior

Ernie, maybe you need to leave freestyle, you've been there too long,  because Popson should have been 1st team PAC over Sidebopper.  And Bob, don't take that from him, he must be mad that you never said his name when he played at w&j, whenever that was.
SV Rowdy Rowdy

Bob.Gregg

Actually, I think I probably said HIS name alot more often than I said YOUR name, Warrior.....  Well, maybe it was close.

Of course, with his high school background, understanding the logic problems the NCAA presented us would be difficult.
Been wrong before.  Will be wrong again.