FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

South Willy · August 27, 2007, 11:08:26 AM

Bethany is in the same practice schedule as W & J as they won't open until the second week. BC will scrimmage Otterbein next Saturday which for BC will be a formidible foe as they are ranked in the top 75 by D3.

SaintsFAN · August 27, 2007, 01:16:33 PM

bigern,

I don't think anyone else in this conference can talk about "tough scrimmages" until W&J stops their MTU scrimmage.

I don't know anyone that has given a WJ account of the scrimmage, but there are a few on the OAC page doing so for the Purple Raiders.

Does W&J play Hanover this year? They only have 70 guys in camp this year (on the roster)....

Bob.Gregg · August 27, 2007, 03:24:03 PM

Fan,

W&J hosts Hanover Sept. 15th

the_burghboy · August 28, 2007, 12:10:55 AM

I heard some of my friends discuss the W&J/Mount Union scrimmage, but the words that summed it up most on the OAC thread were "Monkey Stomp".

Apparently, the Purple Raiders were the foot, and the Presidents were the monkey. That was even more kind than what my friends said, but at least it's still August.

Wes Mantooth · August 28, 2007, 01:40:50 PM

Mount Scored on 8 of 9 possesions. Mount has everyone back on a loaded offense and W&J lost a lot on D and usually never really has a good D anyway. No one in D3 is close to Mount as it looks like they are going on another 4 to 5 year run of consecutive titles Monkey stomping everyone in their path. Big Ern with one look at mine and your physique you would know the truth to that rumor. Also whats this about cowboy boots and a cowboy hat over a Patriots game?

Bigernernwj69 · August 29, 2007, 05:40:29 PM

Did anyone see that Troy Hill Waynesburgs DB stabbed his twin brothers? My thoughts and prayers go out to the family. I hope the other twin makes it. I am curious if this is the same Troy Hill that was a standout for the Yellowjackets last year? Does anyone got any inforamtion on this? Burgh boy what year did you graduate fom W&J? Saints I think this might be the last year for the two to meet, it is sad because Hanover is a quality program. They just have been falling off the map as of late. From what i heard when i talked to one of the coaches is that it is getting tougher for them to bring in recruit. The Admin are being real strict on who they let in Hanover, but the same could be said everywhere. I would not be able to get accepted in W&J now. The bar raises every year. People let me know about the Troy Hill. It is truely a sad day either way you look at, a family lost a son and a brother.

Pat Coleman · August 29, 2007, 07:41:02 PM

http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=104&sid=1234098

Looks like it's the guy. Played last year but did not return to school for this fall.

PittTBCW · August 29, 2007, 07:45:07 PM

Sad to hear about Troy Hill. My prayers and thoughts go out to the victims family and friends.

I think other than when they play each other that when Thiel and W&J play the Thomas More and Waynesburg that they will be good games. Still think the winner of Thiel and W&J wins conference but only time will tell. Thiel certainly can't overlook Geneva this Saturday.

SaintsFAN · August 30, 2007, 10:42:36 AM

damn, thats AWFUL....especially what the surviving twin said to his grandfather....

Hopefully, Troy Hill gets the help he needs and his family is able to cope with their loss...

bigern,

this is absolutely the last year for the two to meet. They are scheduling Centre College for next year...sad day for HC Football...The admissions standards are becoming retarded and they are going to lose their long-time coach as a result....with all of his success he's had, I doubt Wayne Perry sticks around for this much longer..

Bigernernwj69 · August 30, 2007, 02:19:08 PM

Saint,
I just remember all the great QB's that came out of Hanover and the battles between the two schools. Last year W&J was something like 71 yards away from breaking an NCAA record for most yards in a game. That in itself shows the downward spiral the school is going. I am going to be sad to see the school slip out of the picture, but the PAC at least now has an automatic playoff bid. This opens up the chances for teams in the conference to play teams in the OAC or ODAC. I feel that in doing so the teams will improve a lot. Now Teams in the PAC (mostly W&J haha) do not have to worry about the perfect season and sweating it out come playoff time or having one lose. Now they can get right in the thick of things and not play weaker teams, such as Hanover, or other teams of that caliber. This will better get the teams ready in the PAC for playoff football by playing more competitive teams in the regular season.

Any word on what Waynesburg College has done about the incident that happened will Troy Hill? Why did he not come back to camp? Did he have problems before, i hope the surviving twin can make it emotionally. I feel so bad for the little guy.

Pat Coleman · August 30, 2007, 02:23:45 PM

What would Waynesburg be required to do about someone who isn't enrolled?

the_burghboy · August 30, 2007, 03:21:51 PM

I read he wasn't attending Waynesburg College (University, whatever). The sad thing is there seems to be a fine line anymore between being depressed and a sociopath.

Big-I played during the early 90s' under Luckhardt. I don't bring it up much because my war stories aren't any more interesting than the ones I read from others on here.

I do however feel as an alum there are things I have seen change from an athletic and administrative standpoint that has kept W&J from getting back to a realistic chance of a Division III Championship, but that's just my opinion.

My years are blurring together, but remember going to two games at College Field (sorry, it's always College Field to me), with Hanover as the opponent. The second game it wasn't close, but enjoyed the games because Hanover came out throwing, and W&J was throwing it right back.

Any word on Geneva?

SaintsFAN · August 30, 2007, 04:28:43 PM

I think I was a few hours ahead of schedule today....

whoops...

South Willy · August 30, 2007, 04:51:52 PM

SaintsFAN...

You definitely must have the inside track with Hanover info or if it was just a premonition, can you pick me some winners this weekend?? Great call!

The Bison have the week off so I'll just be checking the D3 scoreboard in general. Thiel vs Geneva could be interesting and I noticed that on the OAC pickem board, 50% of the voters have Muskingum beating WC. That's a surprise!!

SaintsFAN · August 31, 2007, 02:33:19 AM

willy,

those guys in the OAC pick ems know what they are doing....that 50% is thinking that Waynesburg CAN'T cover the 23.5 point spread that has been assigned to them. I think its safe to say Hanover is going to play their tails off for Coach Perry...

burghboy,

you're right...there's DEFINITELY a fine line there... Most of our "news" you read on Foxnews.com or what-have-you, is very depressing...I often ask myself what kind of world do we live in now...