FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[OldPhart]

Maybe you could open up a D3 school down there & call it "Old Phart College".

Naw - I would have to call it "Old Phart University" - I can just imagine the students singing of the virtues of "Old P.U." in the alma mater.   

Regardless - I think I will pass.  Football in November should always carry the distinct chance of snow.

[Cleveland Cartel]

PITT:

Your movie line does not count due to wrong use of words.

It is Miss. Davis

Not Mr. Davis.

I highly doubt that Billy BoB wanted to take Mr Davis to prom instead of Miss Davis!

If your going to put it on here get your facts straight!

Once again Pittsburgh Folk never the brightest but a unique breed!

I will be at the game this weekend for the GCC vs Tomcats game, an then watching the Bucks go into Happy Valley and give it to the Nittany Lions!!!  

Hawk Whitner Scholegol Ginn, Holmes, and Troy will bring the house down!!!! GO BUCKS!

[Cleveland Cartel]

I like the way you think Old Phart!

[Cleveland Cartel]

Pitt your crazy man!

[spliskin]

TF,

It seems to me that further expansion accomplishes a few things:

1. Ease of scheduling. Even with 7schools in the conference, each school has to find 4 non-conference games per year. Not an easy task.

2. Ease on budget - Tied to scheduling - Geneva & St. Vincent require short travel due to geographic location (centrally located for most conference schools) (although adding TMC didn't accomplish anything there)

3. Strength in numbers - When PAC had only 5 members (pre-Westminster days), they looked on the verge of collapse. Perception is critical for recruiting. Now a 9 team conference looks like a solid future for the PAC where they can increase name recognition & potentially get 2 teams each year into the national playoffs.

4. Association with other schools- goes again to perception. Given their history I believe the PAC benefited by becoming associated with TMC. Although, I don't think that's true for Geneva & don't know enough about St. Vincent to have an opinion. I think Seton Hill has a reputation as a top tier school that would be attractive to PAC presidents but not positive about that.

[Cleveland Cartel]

Spliskin,

I am a firm believer in strength in numbers and by adding these schools into the PAC it definetly brings added strength.  Your right the 5 team conference did look weak and really put a burden on the PAC teams trying to make the playoffs, and also the ultimate view of the future for the PAC looked dim.  Now with Geneva and St. Vincent and a good possibility of Seton Hill the PAC's future is looking bright not only for football, but the other athletics, and also the diversity in academics.  The schools surroundings, majors, current upgrades, and the best financial package will play a huge in part into how these schools will be able to recruit.  Already teams are being sent to the same schools, but now there will be more school visits from the PAC than ever and the decisions will be tougher on students!

This also makes PAC play more exciting and tense to be around week in and week out  While you still have those two out of conference games, the teams will have to play more consistent football because of having to play an extra couple of conference games.  More concentration and consistency out of these teams will only help them be prepared for the playoffs and have a strong showing there also. 

Skys the Limit and I wish I could be playing in this conference in the next few years!!!!

[PittTBCW]

Pitt your crazy man!

Just a little bit!!!


See you Saturday!

[PittTBCW]

Cleveland,

Sorry about the screw up on the quote.

When Cleveland beats the Steelers you can talk to down to PGHer's HAHA.

I believe Ginn is out for the Suckeyes as well.

Not a Penn State fan but think they will give a OSU a game in Happy Valley.

Go Tomcats!!!

Take care of buisness this week men!!!

[OldPhart]

CC - I have heard ruminations about Seton Hill as well, but almost always with the caveat that Seton Hill wants to continue offering scholarships.  Heard anything besides the chatter on this that would lead you to believe they are a serious candidate for coming on board?  Ralph Turner suggested that Franciscan in Steubenville may be a candidate for the PAC.   Looking at Franciscan's website indicates they are definitely interested in D3.  As of now they have no football program, but maybe they would be willing to start one - fb is expensive, but does tend to attract alumni $$.   

[PittTBCW]

Did I read the homepage for D3 football.com right???

A team is playing a doubleheader?

Northwestern (Minn.) is playing a 1 and 8 o clock football game?

Did they split teams or are they both at home or what is going on. I never heard of that. How does that happen. This has me asking alot of ?'s!!!

[Pat Coleman]

Seton Hill did nothing but talk down on Division III from the moment they entered the pipeline to get into Division III two years ago. In fact, I got a nasty e-mail from someone in the athletic department saying, in essence, 'who told you we were looking at getting into Division III?' (The answer was, of course, "The NCAA."

However, in the past three or four months, it appears their stance has softened a bit. They actually said something nice about Division III in a newspaper article I read before the season starts. So who knows?

[Bob.Gregg]

Word just in:

W&J at Westminster now 1 pm kickoff.

[Pat Coleman]

We've had that time on our site all along -- what had you guys believed it was?

About the doubleheader, I expect with Trinity Bible being one of the worst two or three teams in college football the starters won't play much in the afternoon game.

[Bob.Gregg]

Pat,

1:30 from The Westminster schedule, the Westminster game notes, the most recent "streaming audio" release from Westminster, a direct email from Westminster.

The PAC game notes, the W&J game notes, the W&J schedule

That's all....

By the way, it was originally (May) listed for 1 pm, then all of a sudden it changed to 1:30 somehow.

[Pat Coleman]

Ahh.

Well if nobody tells us it was changed in the first place then I guess changing back is pretty easy.