FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

ScotsFan · September 10, 2008, 12:25:55 PM

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on September 10, 2008, 10:17:59 AM
Why run off now, Scotsfan? You wanted to "stir up a little conversation in an otherwise fairly slow PAC message board". Now, having accomplished that, you run away because somebody didn't agree with your stirring utensil?
We don't have to agree to converse. In fact, the exercise itself is more engaging, more beneficial if the parties DON'T agree. But, that just the way one old, unhappy, overly-sensitive W&J person sees it.

Nice talking with you. Sorry you had to leave just when the discussion got stirred up.

Not running away... Just have better things to do with my time than waste it in here discussing utensils...

Bob.Gregg · September 10, 2008, 01:02:25 PM

Quote from: ScotsFan on September 09, 2008, 11:47:24 AM
[....perennial NCAC bottom dweller Oberlin.....

Fact, Mr. Runaway, Oberlin hasn't dwelt at the bottom of the NCAC since 2000.
Fact, in three of the ensuing seasons, the Yoemen have been closer to the TOP of NCAC than the bottom, including finishing ahead of Wooster a couple times.

Perhaps W&J will need to "bounce back" from their WIN over the Yoemen. Perhaps Wooster will have to beat Wittenberg on the season's final day to "bounce back" from a loss at Savage. I guess we'll have to wait and see...

SaintsFAN · September 10, 2008, 01:09:54 PM

scotsfan,

I thought you were at the game. I'm hoping Waynesburg puts up 70 this week so they think everything is fine....so maybe, just maybe we can sneak up on them.

Bureau chief · September 10, 2008, 01:52:56 PM

It's time to put aside the banter about Oberlin and talk about whether W&J can keep Frostburg State from scoring 35 points!

Bob.Gregg · September 10, 2008, 02:20:08 PM

Actually, chief, the way things have gone for years for the Presidents in the regular season, keeping Frostburg from scoring 35 isn't the question. It's can the offense click well enough to score more?

SaintsFAN · September 10, 2008, 02:51:45 PM

They do play very tough on defense....as Thomas More has found out in previous years.

Does W&J miss having the Hanover series on the schedule. Talk about a drop off...that used to be a great game, before the Panthers slide in the last four years.

Sidenote: I work i with a former Hanover player...nothing gives me more joy than to ask him if he saw what Hanover did on the previous Saturday.. when they get their @sses kicked.

Bureau chief · September 10, 2008, 03:58:48 PM

Bob and Saints fan

There used to be a time not so long ago when 17 to 21 points from the offense was all that was needed to win. The defense would either pitch a shutout or give up a cheap score near the end of the game. Now, incredulously, 50 points may not be enough. No wonder pundits and pollsters look at W&J with a skeptical eye.

Bob.Gregg · September 10, 2008, 04:29:44 PM

Chief, believe me, I know those days, very well.

Nearly every game since 1984...

For many years, it was could the offense score. That's all they needed to do to win.

Now, it's can they score enough?

Bob.Gregg · September 11, 2008, 01:47:09 PM

Heller to miss Waynesburg/Hanover game:

D3Football.com story

Observer-Reporter story

Bob.Gregg · September 13, 2008, 11:42:04 PM

I guess the Presidents bounced back...

SaintsFAN · September 15, 2008, 09:47:10 AM

I would say so. 49 points against Frostburg is good. The rest of the PAC didn't, in my opinoin, bounce back.

Hopefully Heller gets healthy soon, but not this week. He needs another week to get well..

Bob.Gregg · September 15, 2008, 03:55:27 PM

now 25, and falling....

Guess that Wooster dude didn't really leave....

South Willy · September 16, 2008, 09:23:19 AM

SaintsFan...

I flew up for the game and the Bison looked pertty much like last year. Little defense to stop either run or pass but did cause five turnovers. Had two other takeaways nullified by officials plus another long TD called back by a phantom out of bounds call.

Offense ran the ball much more than last year I think to protect freshman QB. Top WRs only caught 5 balls all day but three were big plays.

Nothing to get excited about, probably be competitive against middle of PAC when at home but trouble on the road as previous years.

theotherguy · September 16, 2008, 03:10:03 PM

i noticed that the W & J defense gave up 21 points ( 14 actually, the O gave up a pick 6 ). id say that is an improvement... looks like their getting better. maybe there is hope! are the running a different defense than in years past?

Bureau chief · September 16, 2008, 04:09:00 PM

Some changes, but nothing too drastic..playing with 5 dbs..but I think the linebackers need to play tighter and more aggresive..would like to see more pressure from the down linemen, but which D coordinator wouldn't. The defense is coming along..hopefully as the season progresses the offense won't be asked (or need) to score 40 to 50 points.