FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[Bob.Gregg]

I had 1 pm since March.

Then I got the releases, and saw 1:30.

Then I emailed Westminster and was told "W&J requested the change"

Then I called W&J and they said "then it must be 1:30"

Then the coaches talked.

Then W&J called and said it's now 1 pm.

Eh gads!

[Pat Coleman]

This is when it pays to be blissfully ignorant.

Hope it doesn't blow up your broadcast schedule too much.

[spliskin]

This certainly "dates" me but my favorite football movie of all time is not given as an option..............."Brian's Song".

[OldPhart]

 

This certainly "dates" me but my favorite football movie of all time is not given as an option..............."Brian's Song".

For a second I thought you were going to make a plug for "Knute Rockne - All American"

[Cleveland Cartel]

Lets take a look at how the predictions fared!

Westmin vs. WJ 

Prediction: 50- 6

WJ vs Westmin:  Edwards and the Crew take all out all aggression on Westmin with a dominating offensive performance.  Edwards throws for 5 TD's while Krepps takes a Punt to the house and catches 2 TD in the game.  Zitzelberger has a game on the ground rushing for over 120 yards and a score.  Westmins Buggey gets shut down for the entire day but will pick up 45 yards on the ground.

Actual 45-20

Krepps and Edwards hook up for 4 touchdowns two more than predicted for Krepps while Zitzelberger had his biggest game on the the ground of the year with 100 yards exactly.  Predicted was 126 yards.  Buggey was put on the shelf today but worse than orignally predicted which was 45, in actuality he had 14 on 11 rushes!! WOW!


GCC vs Thiel

Prediction" 38-9

Tomcats get back at it this week with a 38-9 victory over GCC and hold on to control of the CUP.  Satterfield throws fGCC or 248 and 2 touchdown passes.  While the ground game leads the way with Minton and Helmans rushing for a total of 190 and a pair of scores.  Throw in a field goal by the confident Koyl  and the game is in hand for the Tomcats, but the Wing T could pose some fits for the team to start, but GCC will manage to run for just around 90 yards and pass for over 130 in a controlled game for the Tomcats.

Actual 30-0

Satterfield threw for 212 and 1 TD to Chambers while Minton ran on the ground with 152 yards with 3 TDS.  Thiel had 198 total rushing yards while a 190 was predicted.  Koyl kicks a field goal and total yardage on the day for GCC was 146 compared to the 220 predicted.

Bethany vs Waynesburg

Prediction: 42-13

The yellowjackets get back on track with a solid showing against a improving Bethany Bisons.  Ables runs for over 165 with a couple of scores.  Hunter and Hawkins speed is too much for Bethany to handle they each have break out games with a score each and over 100 yards receiving for one of those too.  Can you say Dante Hall? Thats exactly what they bring to the table!  The D shuts down Bethany for the most part but Bethany will score by the means of Milton Joyner.  The young sensation is is exciting to watch once the ball gets into his hands. 

Actual: 38-21

Abels leads the way against the Bisons with 3 touchdowns and 162 yards rushing.  Close enough!  Bethany did move the ball effectively against the Jackets and the Sophmore Sensation Joyner caught 5 passes for 141 yards and a pair of TD's.  That is a huge fantasy day and a WR that I need on my team today! 
Not bad for a first time predictions 3-0 for the week.....Lookin forward to hearing everyones predictions again for next week!!!

[spliskin]

Pat,

Looking at the new D3football.com poll and wondering if Thomas More is on anyone/s radar. Or, since they don't have even 1 vote, maybe the question is: Why are they not on anyone's radar? They are nationally ranked in the top twenty in several defensive categories. Do you think their strength of schedule is what's keeping them off of the rankings?

[Pat Coleman]

Yes, basically.

If they'd beaten Hanover they'd probably be getting votes. But they didn't, and the rest of the schedule is really backloaded (Thiel, W&J, MSJ in the final three games).

[Bob.Gregg]

...Thomas More ...Why are they not on anyone's radar?

spliskin:

loss to Hanover
close win over Waynesburg who pounded Hanover
top 25 teams beat Hanover soundly (W&J, Bridgewater)

They'll get their chance...Thiel, W&J, Mt.St.Joseph's

[spliskin]

Good points. Thanks. I was looking at Hanover's OT win over MSJ in thinking that they were pretty good but forgot about their convincing losses.

SaintsFan,

How does the loss of the starting QB affect the Saints? Is there that much of a drop off between the 1st & 2nd QBs?

It looks like the defense has been winning games for them. Can this continue with a backup QB at the helm?

[OldPhart]

My 2 cents - opening game performances aren't always the best barometer.  Thiel's secondary did not play well in the OWU opener - but they edged OWU nonetheless.  Adjustments have been made and the secondary looks MUCH better.  If W&J and Thiel had met in week 2, I think Edwards would have had a career day against the Tomcats.

I am not suggesting that voters disregard TMC's loss to Hanover.  However, IMO, a close opening day win OR loss should be discounted somewhat.  TMC obviously has something to prove yet.  They will certainly have an opportunity at the end of the season. 

spliskin - it was my impression from reading the TMC web site that the #2 QB wasn't that far behind the #1.  I'll be interested in SaintsFAN's take on it.  No doubt having the open date this past week was a godsend in bringing their #2 up to speed.

[Bob.Gregg]

OldPhart,

I'm not basing it on the opening game loss to Hanover alone.

Let's look at the complete body of work.

5 point loss to Hanover (a team that W&J & Waynesburg both beat convincingly).

8 point win over Grove City, an improved squad but still one that Top 25 teams are going to throttle.

17-3 win over Westminster, a team that the other two Top 25 opponents (Ohio Northern & W&J) put up 45+ against.

6 point win (13-7) over Waynesburg.  This is a good win for the Saints but not one that's going to make ANY pollsters stand up and take notice.

Discounting the loss in the opener, the complete body of work doesn't put Thomas More in the Top 25

DISREGARDING the loss in the opener, the balance puts Thomas More ONLY in consideration of voters, and I don't see voters regularly disregarding any loss for teams that haven't achieved "National Program" status.

[OldPhart]

bobgregg - Agree on all counts. The nature of text postings doesn't always allow for the complete context of one's views - even with smileys.  What I was trying to convey, more or less, is that TMC is still quite an unknown quantity.  No TMC win so far has shown any kind of offensive dominance.   Until the Waynesburg game,  I thought that the impressive defensive performance was a function of a lack of credible competition.  I thought that Waynesburg's running game would generate enough O to let them win comfortably. 

Wins over TMC's next opponents, Frostburg & Anderson, would still leave me wondering as to how potent a defense TMC really has.   Like you - I think that TMC has a chance to show voters that they are for real in their last three games.    However, it wouldn't be a shocker if TMC entered the last three weeks of the season 6-1 and left it 6-4.  I know that "Defense wins games ..." but only if you score some points of your own.

[SaintsFAN]

Spliskin,

Their QB play should be fine...this team isn't looking to light up the scoreboard thats why you don't see the large margin of victory.  But you really do get into some trouble if you try to rate a team based on scoring margin and such....if so would it be OK to say that TMC is obviously doing something right defensively as they only gave up 3 against Westminster---a team that scored 20 on WJ?

Now I don't like comparing scores and whatnot so don't jump on me.....but in my eyes, even though these aren't impressive wins, they are still wins. 

We don't want all of this attention right now....I'd like to continue earning the respect of our opponents one game at a time.

[Bob.Gregg]

Westminster did score 20 on W&J.

7 on 100-yard kickoff return after W&J 14-0.

7 on half-back option pass after W&J 31-7.

7 on fumble recovery in endzone after shotgun snap went over qb after W&J 38-14 (6:26 left in game).

Defense?  Westminster had 33 yards total after 3 quarters, including their only offensive touchdown.  Even give the 100 on k.o. return, that's 45 yards/quarter.

[PittTBCW]

Bob,

I was surprised to hear that W&J gave up that many point to Westminster. I did not check it out but it makes sense after reading your post that Westminsters points came on special teams or trick play.