FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

SaintsFAN · October 10, 2009, 12:28:32 PM

Thanks Pat. Good article. Nice to see the Enquirer pay attention to Thomas More a little bit. They did quite a bit on MSJ last year despite not having a great year. Its the Kentucky bias, I guess.

Where are you this weekend?

FOUR · October 10, 2009, 10:52:33 PM

Homer, looks like you took a little bit of a beating on your predictions this week, I give you credit for sticking your neck out there!! Other than St. Vincent, all your home 'dogs won. Congrats to Westminster and Bethany for big wins.

The Geneva game had me worried beforehand. After smacking them at Grove City last year, I felt there's just too much pride there for them to not bounce back with a great effort in front of a rocking homecoming crowd. GCC jumped up 14-0 early on and I'm thinking OK maybe not. But it was all Geneva after that. From that point on they did a nice job keeping the Wolverine offense off the field considering the no huddle they run, they did an even better job pressuring the QB and taking away his options downfield. No time for the Wolverines to wallow, up next it's the trip down to Kentucky against the defending champs.

PAC Homer · October 11, 2009, 12:51:30 AM

Thank goodness that there aren't betting lines for PAC football. What a great weekend of games! Westminster game was a classic. Bison get it going, and Geneva show that there is reason that there are two halves of football to be played...TMC / W&J showdown on Halloween will be a fine football game.

Going back to the drawing board...

South Willy · October 12, 2009, 02:54:47 PM

SaintsFAN... had a great weekend at Bethany Homecoming and finally got the offense rolling. Defense still gave up 450+ yds but had 4 takeaways which limited the points.
Matt hauled in 12 catches for 186 and a TD and Thiel's Brent Taylor had 15 catches for 183 and a TD so the track guys both had a busy afternoon. I think biggest factor in the game was BC's early 21-0 lead. It made Thiel go to the air early and often so our weakness in stopping the run was not an issue. Great weather, lots of points, a super homecoming weekend.

South Willy · October 15, 2009, 12:11:14 PM

Where's everybody on the PAC site. Should have some good games this week. I can't see any defense in the BC vs Westminnie so they will try and get 100 points on the scoreboard if weather permits.

SaintsFAN...GC could be a better game than TMC has had lately but I think you will win at home.

Geneva vs Waynesburg should also light up the scoreboard and be a competitve game.

St. Vincent in for a long day.

SaintsFAN · October 15, 2009, 02:19:12 PM

I believe the weather isn't going to be great in Kentucky this weekend... snow flurries tomorrow. Not entirely sure what Saturday will bring, but I know the GCC QB has the Saints attention. They will take away the run game, and try to make the QB less than comfortable standing the pocket. If he is able to set his feet, the DB's could be in for a long day.

FOUR · October 15, 2009, 10:42:45 PM

Well, maybe the raw weather will help the Wolverines cause this week, maybe it won't. It's hard to gage that type of thing. GCC is -4 in the turnover department, a better performance here could make a big difference. But one thing they can't do offensively is abandon the running game even if it's tough going. Keep the defense honest. Keep it from turning into a 7 on 7 in pads like it did against W&J because it's a 7 on 7 in name only, more like a 5 or 4 on 7. If the QB cannot set his feet, better keep him in the pocket as he is the team's leading rusher and very savvy on the move.

W&J over StV - only game on the lawn, won't help Bearcats who are still quite a few bricks shy

Gen over Wburg - Will be a tough road win but the Tornado gets it done

Beth over West - Like the home team making it 2 in a row

SaintsFAN · October 16, 2009, 12:33:00 AM

I don't think the GCC QB worries TMC with his scrambling ability as much as he does with his arm.. The strength of the Saints defense is in the front 7.. They will be the fastest and most aggressive defense GCC sees in 2009. I'd love to hear your thoughts after Saturday.. I will check in, win or lose.

By no means is TMC looking past this game, Grove City has their full attention.. It will probably be close for 3 quarters.. Unless Thomas More hits on a few big plays early with the RBs and WRs.. The offense is so multiple, they will come..

SaintsFAN · October 17, 2009, 04:31:16 PM

17-7 final in Kentucky..

Stellman left the game early with a sprained ankle. After Zerhusen got hurt, Freshman QB, Robert Keus played decently.. About what you expect from a Freshman.. The Saints defense really showed up today. They won this game by totally shutting down the GCC offense.. Hopefully Stellman can get back this week, but the defense is good enough to give him a week off..

SaintsFAN · October 18, 2009, 03:46:12 PM

PAC Title Game is two weeks away.. TMC won without Stellman and Owens yesterday. Zerhusen came in and threw 2 ints and had a fumble before he got hurt. The Saints need to groom Keus as the backup..
He should start against Thiel this week as Stellman nurses the sprained ankle.. Sit him and Owens this week.

What happened in the W&J - St Vincent game? Anyone there? 14-7 until the Presidents recovered a fumble in the endzone with just under 3 minutes to play. Was weather a factor? Were they playing bland football on purpose BC of the gametape exchange coming for the TMC game? Frankly, both teams won this week.. But both were not what anyone expected. TMC had injuries bite them, and the defense played very well.. I'm really surprised at what happened at St Vincent yesterday though. Has to be explainable for the #8 team to be in a dog fight with The Bearcats.

FOUR · October 19, 2009, 01:36:07 AM

SaintsFan: Well, it ended up being a beautiful day weather-wise, and also beautiful if you like defense. The speed of Saints defense is very impressive and I guess it depends on what the definition of total shutdown is but however I want to try and paint the picture I think I'll have to mostly agree, especially with third down conversions. GCC struggled there all day, only managed to convert 3 of 15. And most importantly only the 7 points (resulting from some successful trickeration) which won't win you many ball games.

I don't think you'll see the team claiming any type of moral victory but I'm a fan so I will.

I am encouraged with the young Grove City defense, starting 6 sophs and 1 frosh putting up a solid effort that was deserving of some praise. TMC started with great field position all afternoon and spent a lot of time in GCC territory. The Wolverines D didn't break until the bitter end. I think it's accurate to say our defense simply got out-defensed this day. Quite a contrast to the games early in the season when it was the offenses out-gunning each other.

So now that I've seen both undefeated teams first-hand, I'll be working on my prediction for the big showdown. Don't know what went down in Latrobe but that result is certainly an attention grabber.

SaintsFAN · October 19, 2009, 10:31:57 AM

Quote from: FOUR on October 19, 2009, 01:36:07 AM
SaintsFan: Well, it ended up being a beautiful day weather-wise, and also beautiful if you like defense. The speed of Saints defense is very impressive and I guess it depends on what the definition of total shutdown is but however I want to try and paint the picture I think I'll have to mostly agree, especially with third down conversions. GCC struggled there all day, only managed to convert 3 of 15. And most importantly only the 7 points (resulting from some successful trickeration) which won't win you many ball games.

I don't think you'll see the team claiming any type of moral victory but I'm a fan so I will. I am encouraged with the young Grove City defense, starting 6 sophs and 1 frosh putting up a solid effort that was deserving of some praise. TMC started with great field position all afternoon and spent a lot of time in GCC territory. The Wolverines D didn't break until the bitter end. I think it's accurate to say our defense simply got out-defensed this day. Quite a contrast to the games early in the season when it was the offenses out-gunning each other.

So now that I've seen both undefeated teams first-hand, I'll be working on my prediction for the big showdown. Don't know what went down in Latrobe but that result is certainly an attention grabber.

Too bad you didn't get a true read of TMC's offense with Stellmann and Kendall Owens in the lineup. Both left the game very early.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the defense does with W&J.

South Willy · October 19, 2009, 01:31:35 PM

It was a cold lousy day in Bethany who decided not to show up for the first half. Lots of mistakes, some dropped balls and a lousy game plan after really playing well last week. Nice comeback to make it a game late but for BC's offense to only score 6 points in the first half is awful, no consistency at all.

SaintsFAN... Hope you heal up for W & J.

SaintsFAN · October 20, 2009, 03:01:58 PM

Quote from: South Willy on October 19, 2009, 01:31:35 PM

SaintsFAN... Hope you heal up for W & J.

Thanks... they'll be fine... either way. That defense is really fast. I look forward to Halloween this year... and seeing what the Saints do up there.

PAC Homer · October 22, 2009, 03:11:17 PM

TMC/W&J will be a showdown. Stellman should be back by then. SaintsFan, I just watched the tape of TMC's last game and W/J last game, and I think that W/J will beat them by 21 points if they don't toss the ball around. All be it, TMC had a 3rd string QB in that last game, he's probably better than #10, their 2nd stringer. Spread-Option offenses are easy to beat if you don't have exceptional athletes in all skill positions. If the QB only throws 3 times against W/J defense, they will stack 9 in the box all day and it will be a horrible game. The O coordinator for TMC needs to take a shot downfield once in awhile, which he really hasn't committed to all year long... If he doesn't that will catch up to them against a good team. You could have had a 360 lb tackle playing wideout in TMC last game...

Defense looked stellar though, just good enough to get by this week as well...

This week, TMC and W/J both win.

TMC by 13
W/J by 31 back to basics...

If Stellman is healthy against W/J:

TMC 27
W/J 21

If Stellman doesn't play agianst W/J:

W/J 21
TMC 6