FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[Bob.Gregg]

Saturday, Sept. 8, 2012  St. John Fisher at Washington & Jefferson, Cameron Stadium, Park Avenue, Washington, PA  15301
Saturday, Sept. 14, 2013  Washington & Jefferson at St. John Fisher, Growney Stadium, off East Avenue, Pittsford, NY  14618

[Upstate]

So Fisher is playing you guys back to back weeks?

Or are these just tentative dates?

[jknezek]

Look a the dates. Its listed as a home and home by year.

[Upstate]

Look a the dates. Its listed as a home and home by year.

D'OH...

Thanks...

[DagarmanSpartan]

Gang,

Out of curiosity, did either Case Tech OR Western Reserve ever win a PAC football title?  If so, then during which seasons?

Could someone who is "in the know" please let me know!  Thanks!

[DagarmanSpartan]

Never mind!

I just checked the website!

Western Reserve apparently won THREE PAC titles back in the day.

From what I could tell, CMU has won SEVEN.

Query:  If CWRU wins, will it be our first OR fourth PAC title? 

[Bob.Gregg]

Never mind!

I just checked the website!

Western Reserve apparently won THREE PAC titles back in the day.

From what I could tell, CMU has won SEVEN.

Query:  If CWRU wins, will it be our first OR fourth PAC title?

Win it first.  Somebody will figure it out then.

[ADL70]

Bob, as I think more about the CMU remark you brought up, it seems it's sort of a Rorschach test.  You see it as a slap in the face to W&J.  I see the different direction as CMU affiliating with schools more like it, large research universities (no implication of better than W&J, just different).  Of course you haven't detailed the context in which the remark was uttered, which could reveal more of the intent.

[Bob.Gregg]

ADL:
As far as context, it was immediately following 1989 CMU 17-7 win over W&J (at Mt. Lebanon HS).
It was either AD Banner or HC Lackner that said it (working on link/copy/etc)
I was said in direct relation to the football teams/programs.  Period.

IF your assertion is correct, why would CMU continue to play Grove City, Allegheny, Bethany, Thiel?
The Tartans continued to play schools like Juniata, Franklin & Marshall, recently Westminster...
I wasn't aware of that any of those schools were "large research universities"....

Again, I'm glad CMU is back in the PAC for football.  I think it's been ridiculous that W&J & CMU could be this close and never play football.
Jim Banner's been gone a long time.  John Luckhardt's been gone a long time.  The presidents of both schools (at that time of the last meeting--1989) have been gone a long time.  Let's play.

But that doesn't mean that the slap didn't happen.  I'm fine moving forward.  I just don't forget/dismiss/disregard that it happened.  And I don't miss the irony of CMU needing help in the Big Picture that is D-III athletics now.  That's all.

[jam40jeff]

As far as context, it was immediately following 1989 CMU 17-7 win over W&J (at Mt. Lebanon HS).
It was either AD Banner or HC Lackner that said it (working on link/copy/etc)
I was said in direct relation to the football teams/programs.  Period.

If it was said with regards to football, do you think CMU was saying they were better than W&J?  Why would they?  W&J was very successful in the PAC in the mid to late 80s.  If you think they were saying that W&J was too good for them to be playing, why would they say that after a win?

[Desertraider]

I have been watching ESPN2 all day and the ticker at the bottom for NCAAF has the Div.1 FCS semi-finals with times - but nothing on the game tonight. Thanks for nothing ESPN. Even if you are not a fan of either team make it a D3 football event. Remember that one day your team will be in the Stagg and you will want networks to cover it - lets give them some ratings so that can happen. If you don't watch the game thats fine - just turn it on. Maybe if the ratings are decent ESPN will stop moving the game to friday (a TV dead zone!) or moving to a smaller ESPN network so they can show some damn Poker tournament! Even if you not a fan of the teams playing - we are all fans of DIII football!

[Buzz]

Big news out of Defiance College, with the hiring of Thomas More's offensive coordinator, Brian Sheehan, as the new head coach for the Yellow Jackets. Full release up on the DC site with an introduction video from Sheehan - http://www.defianceathletics.com/news/default/86/1876/

[ADL70]

Apparently TMC coaches are welcome in the HCAC even if the team may not be.

[Raider 68]

Will 2012 be the year that W & J makes a run for the title or not?

[Bob.Gregg]

I just don't see it.