FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

SaintsFAN · September 16, 2017, 07:19:59 PM

3-0 TMC after an INT, the Prez defense held them out of the end zone.

TMC needs a spark on offense.

SaintsFAN · September 16, 2017, 08:18:26 PM

13-12, Thomas More leads at the half. Two INTs by each QB and Zubik pass plays after TMC lost their starting FS to injury. Offense is running the ball, well but the aerial game has mis-fired, big time. Dropped balls, overthrows, um ... INTs. W&J has played really well defensively against the pass and Zubik was big time in Q2.

I'm really interested to see if TMC has grown up since last week. We're about to find out.

WashJeff68 · September 16, 2017, 08:22:20 PM

Watching the game as well. SaintsFan's summary is right on. Will be an interesting second half.

SaintsFAN · September 16, 2017, 09:10:14 PM

31-13 - W&J

5 long TD passes since the injury to Zubik and TMC, passing game has been awful. 5-20 2 INTs

This is unreal

WashJeff68 · September 16, 2017, 10:08:15 PM

Rowse ro Zubik. Again and again. Sirianni said his new QB would be first team all PAC. He might be right. Haven't seen the stats, but I think Rowse had over 400 yards passing. Good thing, since the key running back did not play in the second half.

Sorry to se the W&J TMC PAC rivalry end. Best of luck to TMC in the future.

Bob.Gregg · September 17, 2017, 09:46:27 PM

Rowse 32-46-3 482 yards, 6 TD
Zubik 11 rec. 322 yards, 6 TD (yards & TD are both PAC records).
Scored on 6 of his last 8 catches.
TD passes were 29, 77, 16, 57, 69, 37 yards.

W&J has serious special teams work to get done....
Two PATs just flat missed. One blocked, one holder didn't catch the snap.
On punt receive in late 3rd quarter, leading by 18, a VERY late fair catch decision left receiver with only one available hand to catch the kick. Muff, TMC recovers and gets re-energized. Saints score twice to get back in game.

Defense allowed a bunch of broken tackles---certainly partial credit to Pitts/Kuntz but failure to wrap was also an issue.

SaintsFAN · September 18, 2017, 03:18:43 PM

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on September 17, 2017, 09:46:27 PM
Rowse 32-46-3 482 yards, 6 TD
Zubik 11 rec. 322 yards, 6 TD (yards & TD are both PAC records).
Scored on 6 of his last 8 catches.
TD passes were 29, 77, 16, 57, 69, 37 yards.

W&J has serious special teams work to get done....
Two PATs just flat missed. One blocked, one holder didn't catch the snap.
On punt receive in late 3rd quarter, leading by 18, a VERY late fair catch decision left receiver with only one available hand to catch the kick. Muff, TMC recovers and gets re-energized. Saints score twice to get back in game.

Defense allowed a bunch of broken tackles---certainly partial credit to Pitts/Kuntz but failure to wrap was also an issue.

Sirriani was a little fired up after the game, huh? They saved bulletin board material from the aftermath of the 35-9 game in 2016.

Good luck the rest of the way.

Bob.Gregg · September 18, 2017, 04:25:52 PM

Quote from: SaintsFAN on September 18, 2017, 03:18:43 PM
Sirriani was a little fired up after the game, huh? They saved bulletin board material from the aftermath of the 35-9 game in 2016.

Good luck the rest of the way.

Was pretty calm by the time I got to him. Those special team notes are from me....
I'll hear about it next week! LOL

SaintsFAN · September 19, 2017, 08:10:14 AM

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on September 18, 2017, 04:25:52 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on September 18, 2017, 03:18:43 PM
Sirriani was a little fired up after the game, huh? They saved bulletin board material from the aftermath of the 35-9 game in 2016.

Good luck the rest of the way.
Was pretty calm by the time I got to him. Those special team notes are from me....
I'll hear about it next week! LOL

haha.. I bet you will. They could be on his corkboard in his office! Stay well -

E.115 · September 19, 2017, 10:13:00 AM

I'm guessing it's been explained previously, but can someone explain how conference records work? For example, I would think W&J and St Vincent would be 2-0 in their conference records, instead of 1-0.

What determines what games count for conference records?

http://www.pacathletics.org/standings.aspx?path=football

ADL70 · September 19, 2017, 02:21:00 PM

The first game this final season against a conference foe does not count toward conference standings, except for CWRU and CMU. If you look at the schedules on d3football, those are not marked as conference games. With next seasons full round-robin that will cease to be an issue

WashJeff68 · September 19, 2017, 03:46:43 PM

Are you sure there will be a full round robin in the PAC next year?

With TMC leaving, there will be 10 teams meaning a full conference round robin would be 9 games.

According to a CMU news release I saw (from February, 2016, link below) they will be playing Rochester and Claremont in 2018 and Claremont and MIT in 2019.So, that leaves 8 games available for PAC foes, one short of a full round robin.

Is the news release I saw still accurate? Perhaps with TMC leaving and a round robin leaving room for one non-conference game, CMU's plans have changed. Or, perhaps in my approaching dotage, I've missed something

I notice CWRU has 2018 and 2019 schedules posted, starting both years with Rochester, then 9 PAC games.

http://athletics.cmu.edu/sports/fball/2015-16/releases/20160205jmat5c

Bob.Gregg · September 19, 2017, 04:16:24 PM

I believe there have been changes to CMU's non-conference schedule agreements since the departure of TMC was announced.
On the other hand, I continue to wonder (often aloud) how CWRU & CMU can continue UAA agreements and PAC agreements.
Obviously, with a 9-game PAC slate to carry, CMU/CWRU will not be able to play the other two UAA members, let alone somebody else.

I know this: W&J / CMU will open conference play each of the next two years
Sept. 15, 2018 at Cameron Stadium, Wash/Jeff
Sept. 21, 2019 at Gesling Stadium, CMU

Bob.Gregg · September 19, 2017, 04:26:35 PM

Quote from: jknezek on September 19, 2017, 11:30:49 AM
....I don't think we know much about CWRU and with that schedule... uggh. How can they be in the PAC, a conference with so many quality teams, and have missed almost all of them? Talk about luck.

I just couldn't help myself. I had to borrow this from the South Region Fan Poll thread....
I think this very question has been raised in THIS thread before.

Pat Coleman · September 19, 2017, 10:44:37 PM

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on September 19, 2017, 04:16:24 PM
I believe there have been changes to CMU's non-conference schedule agreements since the departure of TMC was announced.
On the other hand, I continue to wonder (often aloud) how CWRU & CMU can continue UAA agreements and PAC agreements.
Obviously, with a 9-game PAC slate to carry, CMU/CWRU will not be able to play the other two UAA members, let alone somebody else.

I know this: W&J / CMU will open conference play each of the next two years
Sept. 15, 2018 at Cameron Stadium, Wash/Jeff
Sept. 21, 2019 at Gesling Stadium, CMU

Wash U moving to the CCIW means that there is no full UAA schedule anymore. Wash U would only have one non-conference game to schedule. (Presume U of Chicago.)