FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[oldtimer4774]

here is a link to that article about Thiel--> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05301/596574.stm

[Cleveland Cartel]

Heres a Question for the PAC Board to get some action going on here....


Toughest Offensive and Defensive Players to play against in the last 20 years from the PAC???  Guys who every saturday you knew they were going to come out and have great games and was a constant menace to defend against???

On defense the guy who you dreaded going up against and you knew you were gonna be in for a slugfest all day with???  Someone who you coudlnt run the ball up the middle with or throw over the deep third of the field over? 

Lets hear some names!!

[spliskin]

Dutch Boy,

Nice job on the Thiel/Satterfield article. Well written and a positive message for the Tomcats and the Thiel faithful. Keep up the good work.

[SaintsFAN]

Its a great day to be a Saint!

[Dutch12]

For the time being anyway! 

Good day for football here SaintsFan, I'm looking forward to it.  Hopefully we'll have a clean injury free game.  Of course I also hope the Tomcats come out on top! 

Good luck to the PAC.

[SaintsFAN]

Dutch,

You are going to like what you see in TMC's defense.  IMO, the points will be hard to come by today for both schools. 

[OldPhart]

SaintsFAN - If Dutch and I like what we see today in TMC's defense, the points will not be as hard to come by  ... for Thiel

Regardless - I figure both sides' fans will make a lot of noise at today's game:  the Thiel campus tailgate event is featuring chili (with beans) today 

[Dutch12]

SaintsFan,

24 - 14 Thiel Final.  I was impressed with TMC's LB's and secondary. They could not stop the run though.  I was impressed with #2 Willis the cornerback.  TMC did a good job against the pass, but Minton ran for 217 yards on 37 carries.  Thiel had a couple of 12 and 15 play drives and held the ball for over 40 minutes.  The score could have been more lop-sided Thiel made some mistakes inside the 25 a few times.  No major injuries for either team that I'm aware of.  TMC only managed 23 yards rushing on 24 carries. 

[Bob.Gregg]

Thiel Tomcats, your 2005 PAC Champions!

Congratulations.  It's been a long time, a long road.

Thiel is the third different champion in the conference in three years (unspeakable prior to 2003)...

[OldPhart]

Dutch - I am just as happy that the running game did the bulk of the work today.  Take what they give you. 

Here are some further ruminations regarding today's contest:

A think I saw 3 Satterfield incompletions that were tipped or could have been picked off.  While I think that W&J will win their match with TMC, I think they will have to be careful in the passing game.  Of note: Satterfield's streak of games with a touchdown pass has ended.

Kudos to the Thiel crowd today.  I think that they were much more into the game than they have been all year.   I am certain that they helped burn one of TMC's time-outs which was very useful down the stretch.

I will  say that TMC is a class act.  Those who were off the field were consistently cheering on their teammates.  I didn't hear any sideline trash talk or cussing that I have heard from certain other teams. 

Officiating seemed to be pretty even - I think there were a few generous spots, but on the whole I think they balanced out.   Few penalties and relatively injury free - although that blocking penalty on the interception return made a huge difference for TMC.  I figure that the ref saw it - I was too busy watching the return.  I assume it was a decent call.

It seemed to be an off day for Thiel's secondary.  There were a couple of long completions that hung in the air for a long time and the secondary was unable to recover and defend the pass.

Glad to have this one over.  Congrats to all the Tomcat players on their conference championship.  Enjoy it today and please forget about it tomorrow and focus on Buff State - sorry I will be out of state for that game.

[PittTBCW]

I would like to see where GameGenie is now. The Tomcats were winners today and won the 2005 PAC Championship. The score was actually closer then the game appeared to be. Thiel flundered several long drives which equaled zero points. The Thiel defense proved today that they are indeed the best defense in the conference. The offense ran with power behind Minton and the vetern offensive line that opened up holes big enough to drive a truck through. Thomas More was indeed a class act and a good football team. I was very impressed with the defense especially the secondary and Carlisle. The Saints were very classy and as mentioned in a previous post did not talk trash. There defense was able to put one in but was called back because of a stupid penalty by on the return. The TD would have given them the lead and would have gave Thiel a real gut check. I am glad that Thomas More is in the conference because I believe they will make the conference that much better. The Saints offense was dominated and managed very little on the ground and under 200 yards in the whole game. I am looking forward to seeing what the Saints will do vs W&J. Again congrats go out to the Tomcats for a dominating performance!!!

[critic]

ITS A GREAT DAY TO BE A TOMCAT, OR A PAC CHAMPION............ OH WAIT NOW YOU CAN BE BOTH..........



GO BALDWIN

[SaintsFAN]

Congratulations to Thiel on their conference championship....they've come a long way since 1999 when I first saw the team.

I am a little disappointed in today's result, but am encouraged because TMC is a young team.  I believe we get Carlisle back, along with West and the rest of the defense.....and the offense will have some maturity after this season.  

Sounds like Thiel earned this win by moving the ball against the TMC Defense...good luck the rest of the way.  

[Cleveland Cartel]

Great Game on both sides today the game was not only exciting with dramatic big plays and twists and turns but it was a class act by both sides. 

Tomcats continue to put in your hardwork because next week Buff St is here to take it your dreams, goals, and aspirations away from you.  Buff St. has played spoiler to PAC teams in the last few years with suprised wins over WJ and over Thiel.

TMC is a very classy group of men.  With the score being close at the end and the PAC championship on the line there could of easily been some brawls.  I am impressed with your coaching staff and players especially Carslisle.  Kid is a stud, I believe he had over 17 tackles today.  With his ability to work from sideline to sideline and strength to stuff the middle he has shown why he will be the PAC Defensive Player of the Year, and also All-American material.  The thiel Oline dominated up front but Carslisle was still able to get off his blocks and make plays, unfortenatly most of the time he was making them 5,6,7 yards down field.  Him and west and also their corners played a solid game.  TMC has pretty good size for a D3 team, but they were getting knocked off the ball by the Thiel O-line, and that is where the battle was being won by Thiel.  Not only offensively but defensively and that is why they won the game.

Again,  TMC is young and you have already accomplished much and the season is not over.  Goodluck next week against WJ and you too can play a spoiler role!

Tomcats enjoy it you have earned it!!!!  Can't wait till next saturday for Senior day against BUFF ST!!

[spliskin]

TMC's secondary is a scary bunch. Great athletes at every position. The LB's also run well and pursue to the ball. That being said their game against Thiel proves once again that great defense starts with your d-line and TMC is in trouble here. TC's OLine physically dominated TMC's D-line the entire day. They were getting knocked back 5 yards off the ball on nearly every run and that nullified TMC's Lber's as the pile was getting pushed into them.

Carlisle is a gifted player athletically and has good size but he seemed to be guessing in trying to run through gaps - he didn't guess right too many times (it didn't look like designed blitzes in most cases). I don't see him as "Defensive Player of the Year" in the conference after watching this game. I am somewhat surprised they credited him with 18 tackles because he wasnt' that much of a factor to be honest and like you said most of the tackles he did have were 5-10 yards downfield.

Thiel should have put 40-50 points on the board with the way they controlled the line of scrimmage but they shot themselves in the foot & missed opportunities too many times. They need to finish more drives on offense if they plan on getting it done down the stretch. You can't let a good football team hang around untill the 4th quarter or they'll bite you hard.

TMC's offense has some big play makers at the WR position. They were able to get behind the TC secondary on a few occasions and Ellis has a pretty decent arm (a little slow on the release but accurate). The biggest diffence I saw again was up front. TC's D-line manhandled TMC's OLine all day. TMC couldn't run the ball at all (I think they had only 3 yards rushing) and Ellis was under heavy pressure all day long. The successful throws were mostly 3 step as they couldn't protect any longer than that.

I was impressed with the character of the TMC team as they fought tooth and nail for 4 quarters and never packed it in. The defense was on the field forever as TC held the ball for 40+ minutes to TMC's 19+ minutes of possession. They stepped up their play on defense everytime TC got into the redzone but like I said, it was more of TC shooting themself than getting stopped (penalties, dropped passes, errant throws, ect).

It will be interesting to see how TMC does against W&J next week. I suspect that many of their guys will be banged up after this physical game. W&J better be prepared to run the football because TMC has the athletes in the secondary to match-up with W&J's pass game & I could see TMC picking off some passes if W&J airs it out all day. Of course, looking at W&J's last few games (stats-wise), it looks like they've gone to their run game much more since the loss to TC several weeks ago (Maybe Bob G. can confirm). If W&J runs the ball enough times I don't think they'll have any problems next week.