FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

Bob.Gregg · September 10, 2009, 08:56:17 PM

SaintsFan, there'll be a broadcast team in Pennsylvania for the Thomas More at W&J game.

Far be it from me to tell Pat what to do, but I think the D-III fans would be better served by sending a crew to a game NOT covered that day.

SaintsFAN · September 10, 2009, 09:16:34 PM

Provided they are both still undefeated, I think the confernce as a whole would benefit from some exposure for the potential game.. That's why I want a D3.com crew there.

There are 2 other broadcast teams for BW/MUC on October 3rd, but we are still doing the game because its a big game.

TMC at W&6 would qualify as a big game in 2009 as well.

Pat Coleman · September 11, 2009, 01:30:36 AM

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on September 10, 2009, 08:56:17 PM
Far be it from me to tell Pat what to do, but I think the D-III fans would be better served by sending a crew to a game NOT covered that day.

Bob, those games are few and far between these days.

Bob.Gregg · September 11, 2009, 01:31:36 PM

Quote from: SaintsFAN on September 10, 2009, 09:16:34 PM
Provided they are both still undefeated, I think the confernce as a whole would benefit from some exposure for the potential game.. That's why I want a D3.com crew there.

There are 2 other broadcast teams for BW/MUC on October 3rd, but we are still doing the game because its a big game.

TMC at W&6 would qualify as a big game in 2009 as well.

Not disputing that, SF, just wondering. With a Thomas More broadcast (web too), a W&J collegiate broadcast (web too) and a WJPA commercial station broadcast (web too), how does adding a D3football.com webcast increase exposure for the game?

You can talk about bias, or slant, or homers and whatnot, but a FOURTH broadcast/webcast does NOT increase the exposure for the game.

SaintsFAN · September 11, 2009, 01:38:42 PM

Thomas More doesn't have web broadcasts... or any kind of broadcast unless the local cable channel in Kentucky is doing the home games... and those are few and far in between.

Pat Coleman · September 11, 2009, 02:13:47 PM

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on September 11, 2009, 01:31:36 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on September 10, 2009, 09:16:34 PM
Provided they are both still undefeated, I think the confernce as a whole would benefit from some exposure for the potential game.. That's why I want a D3.com crew there.

There are 2 other broadcast teams for BW/MUC on October 3rd, but we are still doing the game because its a big game.

TMC at W&6 would qualify as a big game in 2009 as well.

Not disputing that, SF, just wondering. With a Thomas More broadcast (web too), a W&J collegiate broadcast (web too) and a WJPA commercial station broadcast (web too), how does adding a D3football.com webcast increase exposure for the game?

You can talk about bias, or slant, or homers and whatnot, but a FOURTH broadcast/webcast does NOT increase the exposure for the game.

Bob, our stats actually show otherwise. There's an audience that will listen to our game broadcasts even when the local schools and stations are covering the games. You may be surprised, but we've put some thought into these things over the years.

Now, that doesn't mean we're going to do this game (in fact, this conversation was the first I'd really thought about it), but your assertions are off-base.

Bob.Gregg · September 11, 2009, 02:27:20 PM

Pat, that may well be true. But it doesn't necessarily mean that more total people are exposed to the game, that's all.

A John Q. Citizen from Texas who, for whatever reason, is interested in the TMC/W&J game may well click on the d3.com feed instead of the TMC or W&J feed because it is a "neutral" broadcast. If that d3.com cast wasn't available, that same JQC from Texas would simply choose one or the other of those being offered. Doesn't add to the exposure, just the choices by which JCP can be exposed!

No big deal one way or the other. Maybe see you in your Halloween costume!

Pat Coleman · September 11, 2009, 03:33:01 PM

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on September 11, 2009, 02:27:20 PM
Pat, that may well be true. But it doesn't necessarily mean that more total people are exposed to the game, that's all.

A John Q. Citizen from Texas who, for whatever reason, is interested in the TMC/W&J game may well click on the d3.com feed instead of the TMC or W&J feed because it is a "neutral" broadcast. If that d3.com cast wasn't available, that same JQC from Texas would simply choose one or the other of those being offered. Doesn't add to the exposure, just the choices by which JCP can be exposed!

No big deal one way or the other. Maybe see you in your Halloween costume!

Except that a game we're broadcasting is one we're going to promote more than one we aren't broadcasting. That raises the total audience level. Otherwise, W&J/TMC is still a great game, but it's one of several that weekend: Salisbury/Wesley, Franklin/Rose-Hulman, Whitewater/Stevens Point ...

Bob.Gregg · September 11, 2009, 03:52:01 PM

Come on up. We don't have seats for everybody there now. We can add a few more standees, or even set up a table in the stands!

SaintsFAN · September 11, 2009, 05:22:11 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 11, 2009, 02:13:47 PM
Now, that doesn't mean we're going to do this game (in fact, this conversation was the first I'd really thought about it), but your assertions are off-base.

I mentioned it because I have time to talk you into this game, Pat. That is, if both teams keep winning.

You CAN'T choose Franklin/RHIT over this one... right? The others I can see... plus its cheaper for you to fly into Pittsburgh than it is Indianapolis

I may lobby you on the weekend of October 3rd..

Pat Coleman · September 12, 2009, 10:30:00 PM

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on September 11, 2009, 03:52:01 PM
Come on up. We don't have seats for everybody there now. We can add a few more standees, or even set up a table in the stands!

I remember. Been there before, remember?

Cleveland Cartel · September 14, 2009, 03:44:52 PM

Pat,

^{"Except that a game we're broadcasting is one we're going to promote more than one we aren't broadcasting. That raises the total audience level. Otherwise, W&J/TMC is still a great game, but it's one of several that weekend: Salisbury/Wesley, Franklin/Rose-Hulman, Whitewater/Stevens Point ..."}

You believe this could very well be a great game but my take of your comments are the following: WJ/TMC is not a game D3football believes they can promote to raise the audience levels to the extent of the aforementioned games above. Hence, d3football will not be broadcasting the WJ/TMC game.

South Willy · September 15, 2009, 04:47:20 PM

SaintsFAN...

You're tied with me in the OAC Pick'ems You should be ashamed. Can TMC handle Waynesburg's seeming potent offense this week. Might be a good game?

Bethany's defense looked OK against Ottenbein but this past Saturday they were terrible again. Fortunately the offense came back to life. KCU had not scored a point in 2 NAIA games and got 33 off us. As usual, ran it all over the field. Grove City offense will be a handful Sat. evening

PAC Homer · September 16, 2009, 03:09:02 PM

Thomas More 45
Waynesburg 24

Should be a fun game to watch

SaintsFAN · September 17, 2009, 02:09:27 PM

Quote from: PAC Homer on September 16, 2009, 03:09:02 PM
Thomas More 45
Waynesburg 24

Should be a fun game to watch

I think its going to be a closer game than that

Waynesburg has a QB (Dawson) has been really efficient through the first two games. They are a test for sure and they have Thomas More's COMPLETE attention... I can assure you that.