FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

Pat Coleman · September 28, 2009, 05:07:02 PM

Thomas More is ranked.

http://www.d3football.com/top25/2009/week-4

Cleveland Cartel · September 29, 2009, 11:20:14 AM

Pat,

Thanks for the updated top 25 I was looking at Monday afternoon's list on the front page. Must not have been updated. Good to see the Saints get on the top 25 leaderboard! More love for the PAC!

SaintsFAN · September 29, 2009, 02:48:37 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 28, 2009, 05:07:02 PM
Thomas More is ranked.

http://www.d3football.com/top25/2009/week-4

I like having the Saints under the radar. Last year after they made the top 25 after beating W&J, the Saints lost to Geneva. Here's to actually staying in the rankings this year...

willy? you haven't been around this week. Curious to see what you are thinking about the game on Saturday. Its Homecoming at Thomas More so there will be some potential distractions for the players.

PAC Homer · September 29, 2009, 03:32:42 PM

Saints Fan, with all due respect, it's going to take a lot more than distractions to beat this team.

Thomas More 44
Bethany 10

31-3 after Q3....

The defense is unreal...
The RB's are the best in the league...
The WR's are top 20 in the country...

As long as Stellman is healthy, they are in good shape.
No offense to Zerhusen, but there is a big drop off between him and Stellman.

If TMC loses to anyone but W&J this year, it's because they beat themselves like they did in the Geneva game last year.

SaintsFAN · September 29, 2009, 03:37:23 PM

Quote from: PAC Homer on September 29, 2009, 03:32:42 PM
Saints Fan, with all due respect, it's going to take a lot more than distractions to beat this team.

Thomas More 44
Bethany 10

31-3 after Q3....

The defense is unreal...
The RB's are the best in the league...
The WR's are top 20 in the country...

As long as Stellman is healthy, they are in good shape.
No offense to Zerhusen, but there is a big drop off between him and Stellman.

If TMC loses to anyone but W&J this year, it's because they beat themselves like they did in the Geneva game last year.

Agree with you, on all that you said BUT these are 18-22 year old kids who have school work and girls to deal with throughout the week. A Geneva game can always happen.

As long as they beat W&J and MSJ, they should be good to go.

EDIT: Look for Thomas More to get someone like Highlands HS's QB for next year. Lefty... runs a 4.4 but is 5'11"... throws alot of deep passes. broke his arm against St Xavier (OH) this past Friday night and should scare off the recruiters with that and his size. They also have a couple freshman on the roster this year to look at... and push Zerhusen next year. Zerhusen needs to get faster this off season to keep the offense rolling.

South Willy · September 30, 2009, 11:03:29 AM

SaintsFAN...Have been laying low. Bison appear to be crumbling internally in the early season and played a horrible game at home against Grove City. I don't expect even a good game for the 1st qtr at TMC.

My son has been demoted this week to #3 WR and you'll see two freshman wideouts. Matt was "doing everything right but not playing up to his potential". Love those coach's explinations.

Have a great homingcoming!!

SaintsFAN · September 30, 2009, 12:58:20 PM

Quote from: South Willy on September 30, 2009, 11:03:29 AM
SaintsFAN...Have been laying low. Bison appear to be crumbling internally in the early season and played a horrible game at home against Grove City. I don't expect even a good game for the 1st qtr at TMC.

My son has been demoted this week to #3 WR and you'll see two freshman wideouts. Matt was "doing everything right but not playing up to his potential". Love those coach's explinations.

Have a great homingcoming!!

WHAT?! Thats pretty stupid. Your son has been a beast the last 3 years. I know that he's given TMC fits... Sorry to hear that, even if it means TMC will have another edge defensively.

FOUR · October 01, 2009, 01:45:50 AM

Hello PAC fans, new to the board. Looking for some intelligent football conversation which appears to be present here.

I can speak a little bit to how Grove City is doing so far in 09 and excuse me if I'm a bit long winded, just thinking things through. Now 1-1 (1-3) isn't going to impress many folks. Losses out of the gate to Dickinson and CMU, 52-47 and 45-40 (and no those aren't basketball or overtime scores) would make one wonder if they could stop anyone or if anyone could stop them. Jumped on Bethany 21-0 before the half and were able to maintain that lead to the end of game for a 35-14 win. So with lots and lots of points scored through the first three games, it was refreshing to see some defense being played last week. Unfortunately it was W&J's defense that almost totally shut down Air GCC after the first scoring drive of the game. -4 yards total rushing and only 1 RB carry makes you wonder if "Mouse" Davis was in the house. Defensively, a 28-10 loss shouldn't normally be considered a good effort, but it was the fewest points allowed by Grove City to W&J since it's last victory in R. J. Bowers' sophomore season (1998) and the fewest W&J has scored in their past 16 regular season games.

I'd chalk 1-3 right now up to youth. Although there are solid upperclass leaders, they started 6 sophomores on defense, 3 sophomores and 1 freshman on offense against W&J and have an handful of underclassmen contributing on both sides. So I think that pre-season 3rd in PAC is still very do-able, but they have to progress and perform. Two more against St. Vincent and Geneva before the next PAC game that counts on 10/17 at Thomas More. Now, you never go into a game saying you can't win but there's a huge challenge, looking forward to see how they handle things over these next three weeks.

Bob.Gregg · October 01, 2009, 08:04:02 AM

Welcome aboard, FOUR. Keep us posted on GCC.

Could not believe the total abandonment of the running game by the Wolverines on Saturday night. ONE RB RUSH, are you kidding?

Cleveland Cartel · October 01, 2009, 11:56:22 AM

Four,

Welcome aboard and good insight on GCC. havent heard too much from their supporters on here so its good to have you.

South Willy,

Demotion trying to help him reach his full potential I can understand, but I haven't watched the games, tapes, practices, and dont know his game study habits either. There are so many questions that we would have being an outsider, but I feel as if this is a move for BC to get some youth playing time to help replace his production next year. If that is the case I am disturbed by this as he is a beast as Saints Fan mentioned, and one of the upper tier recievers in this conference. Best of luck to them and every other PAC team this weekend. Stay safe and injury free.

Saints fan,

Your squad seems to be rounding into shape nicely. Any expectations for the weekend?? Big crowds, weather, events planned for alumni? Should be a good weekend for Saints fan. Just breaking into the top 25, homecoming, these guys will be jacked up to play this game, and represent their team/fans this weekend.

SaintsFAN · October 01, 2009, 12:54:02 PM

I expect a big, big win against Bethany if they aren't playing Matt Cruse at WR. Thats retarded. Should be a great day for everyone.

I was going to do a game with Pat Coleman up in Alliance on Saturday night, until something came up that is going to keep me in town (didn't want to leave Pat scrambling at the last second). As long as everything is taken care of, I'm going to head over to watch the game and participate in the Homecoming Activities. Its been 10 years since my last season there, and I hear quite a few people are coming. Including the daughter of a late-teammate.

I don't think this one ends pretty like the last two have...

South Willy · October 01, 2009, 01:24:41 PM

SaintFAN...I agree with the retarded but I am a homer. Matt will play the #3 WR position so the better TMC stops the run, the more Matt will see the field in passing situations. I'm sure your defense will be able to spot him.

CC...Not sure what is behind the decision but just doesn't make any sense removing 17 catches, 279yds and 4 TDs (last 3 TMC vs BC games) form your offsense.

Everyone have a great weekend. GO BISON

SaintsFAN · October 01, 2009, 01:30:59 PM

Quote from: South Willy on October 01, 2009, 01:24:41 PM
SaintFAN...I agree with the retarded but I am a homer. Matt will play the #3 WR position so the better TMC stops the run, the more Matt will see the field in passing situations. I'm sure your defense will be able to spot him.

CC...Not sure what is behind the decision but just doesn't make any sense removing 17 catches, 279yds and 4 TDs (last 3 TMC vs BC games) form your offsense.

Everyone have a great weekend. GO BISON

He should see alot of action... the Saints 1st team defense is VERY strong against the run. They are fast and the 3 LB's really flow well to the ball. The stats are skewed because no regulars have played a snap in 4th quarter in the past two games.

PAC Homer · October 01, 2009, 03:11:11 PM

Seaking of skewed stats, you can also point out that the TMC rotation is like no other. The only staple is Stellman and the LB corps.

At anytime, you will see 6 different receivers and 3 different RBs on the field.
At this point, not too many mistakes have been made; I think that they are still looking for the go-to guys. Not bad being 3-0 and still trying to figure out what personnell to leave on the field.

Also, they have a 5 man defensive back rotation.

It has to give headaches to the radio analyst.

SaintsFAN · October 01, 2009, 03:28:08 PM

Quote from: PAC Homer on October 01, 2009, 03:11:11 PM
It has to give headaches to the radio analyst.

no radio analyst currently.... though they are looking at this option for next year ---- web broadcasts.

But I agree with you. The only thing I would say they could work on is putting the ball on the carpet. I've only been to one game (Waynesburg) but the ball was on the ground a few times. Only lost a couple... but one helped put points on the board for Waynesburg.