FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[WashJeff68]

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Do I think W & J's players will be psyched?  Sure, but I think we (as fans) might overrate the potential galvanizing effect of things like "renewing a rivalry" - none of the kids playing in that game was even alive the last time W & J played CMU. Hard to imagine that the Prez players will derive any extra motivation from "CMU left our conference 25 years ago
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Ex Tartan,

Good perspective. In fact, now that the AD has retired, I doubt there is anyone still associated with the athletic program who was there when CMU left the PAC. Winning, and and winning #700 will be sufficient motivation.

W&J lost their three key offensive weapons from last year (QB Matt Bliss, RB Dion Wiegand and WR Alex Baroffio). It would appear they have found adequate replacements. W&J has had remarkable stability in the coaching staff (Luckhardt hired both Banaszak and Sirianni, his two successors) since 1982. This has to be a plus, and W&J's record in that period would seem to suggest that it is.

Good to have CWRU and CMU back for football. Think they may eventually return as full members? It would certainly cut the travel budget!

[ExTartanPlayer]

Good to have CWRU and CMU back for football. Think they may eventually return as full members? It would certainly cut the travel budget!

Not sure.  I think CMU and CWRU are happy with their places in the UAA as an all-sports conference (it works beautifully for everything but football), but if the athletics budget were significantly reduced, perhaps such a move would be necessary. 

The other question of interest is how long the UAA-SAA-PAC thingy remains in place.  I like keeping the WashU-Chicago-CWRU games but eventually I suspect the PAC or SAA will raise a stink about acquiescing to the UAA schools' scheduling needs every season.  We'll see.  For now, like you said, I'm excited for the season with CWRU and CMU playing a full slate in the PAC.

[E.115]

St Vincent - Case Western Reserve preview:

http://athletics.case.edu/sports/fball/2014-15/files/fb_svc_games_notes14.pdf

http://athletics.case.edu/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/2014091687fxer

[DagarmanSpartan]

Neither school will be interested in leaving the UAA, simply because both schools take pride in being members of the ONLY conference in the NCAA in which EVERY member school is also a member of the Association of American Universities (AAU), the nation's premier association of research universities.  Even conferences like the Ivy League (Dartmouth isn't a member), and the B1G (Nebraska was kicked out of the AAU) can't claim that same distinction.

The small liberal arts colleges in the PAC aren't as good of a fit, profile-wise, for Case as the AAU research universities in the UAA are.

[ExTartanPlayer]

CMU-W & J game notes are posted.

Couple of lineup changes on offense.  Hearon starting at QB over freshman Jangro (listed as second-string).  New starter (junior Will French) at LT, last week's started McDonald not on this week's two-deep (injured?).

[ADL70]

I do think the prospect of AQ merits consideration of CWRU's affiliating with PAC for baseball.

W&J goes for 700th win in program history and CWRU for 200th in much shorter history.

Beecher gets a mention in today's Triple Take. 

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2014/09/19/triple-take-week-3-big-clashes-and-bigger-road-trips/

Esteban still listed as starter, but Suren is back to back him up after offseason surgery.

Returning starter at LG no longer with the team.  Sicre is listed as starting.

Not sure what to make of St Vincent, they didn't win a game last season and were blown out by John Carroll, whose #1 QB didn't play.  Then they had a halftime lead over Waynesburg, who had beaten Muskingum 33-0, before losing 24-35. 

[Ralph Turner]

I do think the prospect of AQ merits consideration of CWRU's affiliating with PAC for baseball.

My thoughts on the Pres AC accepting CWRU as a baseball affiliate are these.

1) Do we (the Pres AC) need CWRU to keep an AQ?  -- No
2) Do we need the guaranteed games (2-3 per season) to fill the 40 game schedule? -- No
3) Will Pres AC schools play CWRU anyway?  -- Probably.
4) Does adding a 9th team make scheduling easier? --  No, that pesky open date every weekend
5) Are the stategic advantages for other sports to let CWRU affiliate?  --  I don't see them from the outside. Allowing them access to football opponents in October and November when everyone else is playing conference games is a big win for CWRU as it is now.

[ADL70]

Certainly most of the benefit is to CWRU.

However, the PAC currently has nine baseball teams, so adding CWRU would eliminate "that pesky open date every weekend."

For some reason the PAC page on d3baseball omits Westminster's team.

http://pacathletics.org/standings.aspx?standings=39&path=baseball

[Ralph Turner]

Certainly most of the benefit is to CWRU.

However, the PAC currently has nine baseball teams, so adding CWRU would eliminate "that pesky open date every weekend."

For some reason the PAC page on d3baseball omits Westminster's team.

http://pacathletics.org/standings.aspx?standings=39&path=baseball

My bad!  I miscounted on the D3baseball.com website. Westminster PA is not on the D3baseball.com Pres AC site.

Gotta tell Jim Dixon.

Then in that case, I do offer CWRU a place!

You da Man!  +1!

[ADL70]

This presupposes the Chatham doesn't add baseball.  But the lack of a facility makes that unlikely.

[ExTartanPlayer]

This presupposes the Chatham doesn't add baseball.  But the lack of a facility makes that unlikely.

Chatham adding baseball seems even less likely than CMU adding baseball, IMO.

[ADL70]

This presupposes the Chatham doesn't add baseball.  But the lack of a facility makes that unlikely.

Chatham adding baseball seems even less likely than CMU adding baseball, IMO.

Agreed

[SpartanMom_2016]

Ready for the game!

[DagarmanSpartan]

Very disappointing performance.  St. Vincent was in the middle of a 20+ game losing streak.  We'd better bounce back, or we could be headed for a long year.

[ADL70]

Props to SVC

Spartans dealing with some adversity.

On O:  Sicre DNP (although Bianco averaged just under 4 ypc)  Left side of line reconfigured with freshman getting first start at LT.  Lapcevic wasn't seen after early in the 2nd Qtr.

On D:  Dishong DNP  Sandidge was in only 1 series in 2nd half  I don't think J Williams was in at all in second half  Sandidge's replacement wasn't even on the two-deep

Beecher had an okay game, not a "breakout game."