FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

WashJeff68 · November 17, 2015, 06:30:48 PM

Assuming you haven't already!

WashJeff68 · November 17, 2015, 07:43:32 PM

Ex Tartan,

Already had a reply from the Commish.

"Ironically" he and the ADs had a meeting today where they discussed this at length.

Your PAC at work for you!

Jeff in Tennessee

E.115 · November 21, 2015, 04:31:59 PM

Congrats to Thomas More; we're rooting for you.

WashJeff68 · November 21, 2015, 04:59:58 PM

Good day for the PAC. Congrats to Thomas More & Westminister.

Good luck tomorrow, CMU. Bring home a win and a PAC sweep.

jknezek · November 21, 2015, 05:00:48 PM

Congrats Saints. That was a dominating performance and man do you guys have some good, big guys. Good luck next week, I'll be pulling for you.

ExTartanPlayer · November 21, 2015, 06:01:03 PM

Quote from: WashJeff68 on November 17, 2015, 07:43:32 PM
Ex Tartan,

Already had a reply from the Commish.

"Ironically" he and the ADs had a meeting today where they discussed this at length.

Your PAC at work for you!

Jeff in Tennessee

Awesome!!

Also. Congrats to the Saints and the Titans!

Hoping the Tartans hold up their end of the bargain and make it a PAC sweep, indeed!

WashJeff68 · November 22, 2015, 03:01:01 PM

Congrats to CMU for bringing home the PAC sweep! Good luck to TMC the rest of the way.

desertcat1 · November 25, 2015, 12:04:56 PM

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Safe travels.

ADL70 · November 28, 2015, 10:57:33 AM

Keep marching Saints!!!

SpartanMom_2016 · December 01, 2015, 01:06:19 PM

Snyder and Suren both named 1st team Academic All Americans!

http://athletics.case.edu/sports/fball/2015-16/releases/20151201hzrs4y

WashJeff68 · December 01, 2015, 05:22:02 PM

Quote from: SpartanMom_2016 on December 01, 2015, 01:06:19 PM
Snyder and Suren both named 1st team Academic All Americans!

http://athletics.case.edu/sports/fball/2015-16/releases/20151201hzrs4y

According to the PAC web site there were 4 others who received 2nd team recognition - 2 from CMU and one each from Grove City and W&J. Congrats to all!

Jeff in Tennessee

SaintsFAN · December 08, 2015, 12:22:45 PM

The All Regional Teams are out.

Congrats to Regis Scafe on being named South Region Coach of the Year. Erick Butler made the 2nd team defense and Goose Cohorn* was named to the Third Team at WR. Both kids were senior captains and 4 year starters. They'll be missed.

*I have no idea how Goose Cohorn was not a 1st team WR. There aren't 4 better WR's than him in the South Region. I can concede Ramos from HSU with his big plays but Goose is better than the other three listed in front of him. If you watched any of the TMC games and/or film, his hands and ability to break big plays jumps out at you. Anyways, just wanted to go on record with this thought.

ExTartanPlayer · December 08, 2015, 01:52:41 PM

Congratulations to Coach Scafe and Thomas More.

From CMU, Sam Benger was a first-team RB and Ted Garibaldi was a first-team OL (I imagine that blocking for a 2000 yard rusher helps get some attention to the OL...I maintain that my all-region selection occurred solely because of our two 1,000 yard backs), with Brian Khoury first team DL and Drew Fitzmorris a first-team DB.

Other notables around the PAC:

Rob Cuda (CWRU) third-team QB
Ryan Ruffing (W&J) third-team RB
Eric Blinn (Bethany) second-team WR
Goose Cohorn (TMC) third-team WR
Jake Henderson (TMC) third-team OL
Zach Crossey (W&J) first-team OL
Daniel Lis (W&J) third-team KR
Erick Butler (TMC) second-team DE
Mac Quinn (Westminster) third-team LB

A couple thoughts:

1) I agree that Goose Cohorn got robbed. Goose was as good as it got around the country in D3 at the WR position.

2) At first, even as a CMU fan, I blanched at us having four first-team guys (more than Thomas More and W&J had!) but I kind of understand it...if this makes any sense, CMU was kind of a top-heavy team this year: big star power with respectable-but-not-playoff-caliber guys around them. Benger and Khoury are absolute studs, and I believe you could have swapped them in for starters on a whole bunch of playoff teams with no drop-off at all. The overall record shows that TMC was definitely better, and W&J/Case/Westminster were all about as good, but I think those teams might've been a little deeper than the Tartans. Kind of like a basketball team that has LeBron and Dwyane Wade and then a bunch of decent-sixth-men filling out the lineup.

Put another way, I don't like it when we look at individual post-season honors and just say "Team X is better than Team Y, so how did Team Y get more all-league picks than Team X?" because, after all, they are individual awards. And anyone that watched CMU this year knows Benger and Khoury were studs to the nth degree. So I'm ultimately OK with it. But I would understand a little side-eye from a team like Washington & Lee (undefeated, with only one first-team pick) or UMHB saying "Really? Carnegie Mellon has four first-team guys?"

GillCJ1 · December 08, 2015, 02:40:12 PM

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on December 08, 2015, 01:52:41 PMPut another way, I don't like it when we look at individual post-season honors and just say "Team X is better than Team Y, so how did Team Y get more all-league picks than Team X?" because, after all, they are individual awards. And anyone that watched CMU this year knows Benger and Khoury were studs to the nth degree. So I'm ultimately OK with it. But I would understand a little side-eye from a team like Washington & Lee (undefeated, with only one first-team pick) or UMHB saying "Really? Carnegie Mellon has four first-team guys?"

Eh... I don't speak for others, but I have zero issue with this. As you said, these are INDIVIDUAL honors. I was just happy to see Teidrick Smith get Defensive POY.

By the way, congrats to your boys for their selections!

ExTartanPlayer · December 08, 2015, 03:55:56 PM

Quote from: GillCJ1 on December 08, 2015, 02:40:12 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on December 08, 2015, 01:52:41 PMPut another way, I don't like it when we look at individual post-season honors and just say "Team X is better than Team Y, so how did Team Y get more all-league picks than Team X?" because, after all, they are individual awards. And anyone that watched CMU this year knows Benger and Khoury were studs to the nth degree. So I'm ultimately OK with it. But I would understand a little side-eye from a team like Washington & Lee (undefeated, with only one first-team pick) or UMHB saying "Really? Carnegie Mellon has four first-team guys?"

Eh... I don't speak for others, but I have zero issue with this. As you said, these are INDIVIDUAL honors. I was just happy to see Teidrick Smith get Defensive POY.

By the way, congrats to your boys for their selections!

Yeah, I know, and CMU was 8-3...it's not like they were garbage. But I was on the opposite side of this in HS, playing for undefeated league champs and feeling like some of our guys didn't get their due while players from middling teams got recognition. So I'd at least understand it if UMHB or W&L or some other really great team felt like they got the shaft with 1 or 2 of their best players not on the short list here while an 8-3 non-playoff team has four on the first team.

Benger and Khoury are kind of slam-dunk selections. Benger was pretty dominant all year, even in losing efforts. Khoury's final stat line (13.5 sacks, 19 TFL, 2 forced fumbles, 2 fumble recoveries) is pretty strong, too. Fitzmorris had a great year but I was a little surprised by him being first-team all region. And the center...I mean, it's hard to pick an All-Region center with a position that's so anonymous, especially in D3 ball, when there's so little common competition and exposure to other teams.