FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[SaintsFAN]

Very impressive, borderline statement win today against U Chicago today.  Most shocking was how little Cuda had to pass to keep the offense moving. 

CWRU Football Shines in 45-17 Season-Opening Win over Chicago

CWRU Football Shines in 45-17 Season-Opening Win over Chicago - Case Western Reserve

Top highlight -- 85-yard punt return from Phan:  https://youtu.be/rc233rs57Zk

Come on; your statement game has been yet to be played.  That was Chicago. 

[ADL70]

He said borderline. KO had Chicago #60; Westminster #50. Chicago second highest ranked team on schedule. If there is a statement game, it will be scheduled by the committee.

Dare I point out that it was a win?

[GRIZ_BACKER]

Big win in Franklin, IN last night over the TM Saints. Big crowd under the lights. Two great teams battled to the end. Franklin appeared to have the upper hand with regard to conditioning. That may have been the difference maker in the end. Over 1100 yards of offense combined.

[Ralph Turner]

Big win in Franklin, IN last night over the TM Saints. Big crowd under the lights. Two great teams battled to the end. Franklin appeared to have the upper hand with regard to conditioning. That may have been the difference maker in the end. Over 1100 yards of offense combined.

TM was "out-conditioned"? Wow!  That is an ominous observation about a Top 25 team.

[GrizFan]

It did look like the Saints wore down in the second half.  Lots of cramping and minor leg injuries.  It was a cool night so I was surprised at how many TMC players were taken off of the field, seemed like one every play.

[SaintsFAN]

Big win in Franklin, IN last night over the TM Saints. Big crowd under the lights. Two great teams battled to the end. Franklin appeared to have the upper hand with regard to conditioning. That may have been the difference maker in the end. Over 1100 yards of offense combined.

TM was "out-conditioned"? Wow!  That is an ominous observation about a Top 25 team.

I disagree with that assessment.  They were outplayed in the 2nd half.  But a TD with 3 minutes left would've ended it and that was a drive where Franklin knew Tarrant was getting the ball and couldn't do anything about it; not the mark of a team with conditioning issues. 

[SaintsFAN]

It did look like the Saints wore down in the second half.  Lots of cramping and minor leg injuries.  It was a cool night so I was surprised at how many TMC players were taken off of the field, seemed like one every play.

Cut blocks and chop blocks

[SaintsFAN]

He said borderline. KO had Chicago #60; Westminster #50. Chicago second highest ranked team on schedule. If there is a statement game, it will be scheduled by the committee.

Dare I point out that it was a win?

I'm sorry.  No team with playoff aspirations will point to a home opener against Chicago as any kind of statement win, no matter what word is in front of it. 

I have higher expectations for CWRU.  They are definitely playoff worthy with Cuda

[SaintsFAN]

Big win in Franklin, IN last night over the TM Saints. Big crowd under the lights. Two great teams battled to the end. Franklin appeared to have the upper hand with regard to conditioning. That may have been the difference maker in the end. Over 1100 yards of offense combined.

TM was "out-conditioned"? Wow!  That is an ominous observation about a Top 25 team.

Could be a former top 25 team, depending on how the vote shakes out.  They just can't lose in PAC play now.  And they know it. 

[GRIZ_BACKER]

It did look like the Saints wore down in the second half.  Lots of cramping and minor leg injuries.  It was a cool night so I was surprised at how many TMC players were taken off of the field, seemed like one every play.

Cut blocks and chop blocks

If conditioning and attrition was not the issue then getting whacked 29-7 in the last 29:45 is what it is.  I will say the DUMB penalty with the blow to the head (I think the TM player was ejected) was a critical error. I still contend TM was running out of gas. I was there (50 yard line in the stands).  All that matters is that FC won a critical SOS game as it relates to playoffs (the likelihood the GRiZ dont go 8-0 again in the HCAC is small). This GRIZ squad is deep and talented.  Possibly the most rounded group Leonard has put on the field.  600 plus yards on TM defense. It was only a 9 point game at half.  25-14.

[SaintsFAN]

It did look like the Saints wore down in the second half.  Lots of cramping and minor leg injuries.  It was a cool night so I was surprised at how many TMC players were taken off of the field, seemed like one every play.

Cut blocks and chop blocks

If conditioning and attrition was not the issue then getting whacked 29-7 in the last 29:45 is what it is.  I will say the DUMB penalty with the blow to the head (I think the TM player was ejected) was a critical error. I still contend TM was running out of gas. I was there (50 yard line in the stands).  All that matters is that FC won a critical SOS game as it relates to playoffs (the likelihood the GRiZ dont go 8-0 again in the HCAC is small). This GRIZ squad is deep and talented.  Possibly the most rounded group Leonard has put on the field.  600 plus yards on TM defense. It was only a 9 point game at half.  25-14.

11 points.

They got outplayed in the 2nd half.   I think both defenses were on the field too much.  But I'd hardly say it was a conditioning issue; that doesn't give Franklin enough credit for their comeback.

[ADL70]

He said borderline. KO had Chicago #60; Westminster #50. Chicago second highest ranked team on schedule. If there is a statement game, it will be scheduled by the committee.

Dare I point out that it was a win?

I'm sorry.  No team with playoff aspirations will point to a home opener against Chicago as any kind of statement win, no matter what word is in front of it. 

I have higher expectations for CWRU.  They are definitely playoff worthy with Cuda

Guess it wasn't much of a statement, CWRU went from 18 pts in poll to 15

[SaintsFAN]

He said borderline. KO had Chicago #60; Westminster #50. Chicago second highest ranked team on schedule. If there is a statement game, it will be scheduled by the committee.

Dare I point out that it was a win?

I'm sorry.  No team with playoff aspirations will point to a home opener against Chicago as any kind of statement win, no matter what word is in front of it. 

I have higher expectations for CWRU.  They are definitely playoff worthy with Cuda

Guess it wasn't much of a statement, CWRU went from 18 pts in poll to 15

I tried to tell you!  But they are still on mine.

[ADL70]

Contrast with W&J with hardly a statement win who gained 9 pts

[Ralph Turner]

Contrast with W&J with hardly a statement win who gained 9 pts

Respectfully, W&J just "floated up" because 4 teams in the bottom half of the poll dropped out.

Wartburg was RV26 before and after, did not play in Week 1, and still picked up one vote.

If you look at the poll, week after week, #25 usually has 50 votes. That is #22 on half of the ballots.  When you fill out your Top 25, everyone beyond #21 or #22 is a  "place holder" and on  most voters "watch list".