FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[WashJeff68]

What's up with Andrew Wolf? Had great game against JCU, not even on the two deep this week, but still on the roster. I assume he has an injury.

[Bob.Gregg]

Sept. 25 has been the return target for both Wolf and Burns.  We'll see.

[WashJeff68]

Thanks, Bob!

[Husker Four four]

Whats the Status for Colt Morgan on Sat?

[jam40jeff]

I see that the D3 guys unanimously picked W&J this week, which makes sense.  I would fully expect W&J to be favored in this game by nearly everyone.  However, I hope Riley is wrong in saying that they "should have little trouble getting past Case Western Reserve."  I don't know what to think of CWRU's first few games, but the Westminster score ending up lopsided is a bit misleading.  CWRU had 27 first downs to Westminster's 17, gained more yards on offense, and had the ball for 15 minutes more than Westminster.  It's just hard to win when your QB uncharacteristically throws 5 INTs.  Hopefully this week will be a better game.

[ADL70]

I see that the D3 guys unanimously picked W&J this week, which makes sense.  I would fully expect W&J to be favored in this game by nearly everyone.  However, I hope Riley is wrong in saying that they "should have little trouble getting past Case Western Reserve."  I don't know what to think of CWRU's first few games, but the Westminster score ending up lopsided is a bit misleading.  CWRU had 27 first downs to Westminster's 17, gained more yards on offense, and had the ball for 15 minutes more than Westminster.  It's just hard to win when your QB uncharacteristically throws 5 INTs.  Hopefully this week will be a better game.

While injuries affect every team (witness earlier discussion of W&J's Wolf), Morgan was not on the field, other than the sidelines with no visible injury, after the first quarter. And another WR starter, Cain, did not play at all. Backups started at NG and ILB and RG. Westminster also had an open date the week before, while CWRU was playing it's third straight game. The Waynesboro game was originally scheduled for October 9, I'm don't know who requested the change. But props to Westminster's relentless pass rush that the Spartan's had no answer for.

[jam40jeff]

Mostly I meant that I don't know what to make of our defense.  They played much better against a tough Westminster team than they did the first two games.

[ADL70]

Mostly I meant that I don't know what to make of our defense.  They played much better against a tough Westminster team than they did the first two games.

They are young mostly FY and So. If you look at the 2-deep from the game notes there's been a bit of a shake up in the secondary, but I don't know if that is due to injuries.

[Bob.Gregg]

Westminster retakes the lead vs. Grove City on a pass with a CLEAR hold and ineligible man downfield on the same play...

[ADL70]

I thought that I saw the ineligible man

[Bob.Gregg]

Westminster retakes the lead vs. Grove City on a pass with a CLEAR hold and ineligible man downfield on the same play...

Scroll to Part 2, 43:00 mark.....offensive holding AND ineligible downfield on a pass across the line of scrimmage.
Analyst celebrates what a great block it was....oh, boy.
The lineman (#56) was several yards beyond the receiver who was 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.

https://www.wkbn.com/sports/game-of-the-week/westminster-hosts-grove-city-saturdays-wkbn-college-game-of-the-week/?fbclid=IwAR32QRLvlXHC74sDgqQ18VtzdmBo0ow_OYyKiv6eUdpG6krh7PWN7fgmRF0

[MRMIKESMITH]

Westminster retakes the lead vs. Grove City on a pass with a CLEAR hold and ineligible man downfield on the same play...

Scroll to Part 2, 43:00 mark.....offensive holding AND ineligible downfield on a pass across the line of scrimmage.
Analyst celebrates what a great block it was....oh, boy.
The lineman (#56) was several yards beyond the receiver who was 5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage.

https://www.wkbn.com/sports/game-of-the-week/westminster-hosts-grove-city-saturdays-wkbn-college-game-of-the-week/?fbclid=IwAR32QRLvlXHC74sDgqQ18VtzdmBo0ow_OYyKiv6eUdpG6krh7PWN7fgmRF0

As a defensive minded person. The advent of the RPO (especially in College) definitely would have given me more gray hairs. However, in this case, it being a screen play, typically referees are on top of illegal men downfield. However, I think everyone, including the referees were surprise with the call. Doesn't make it right, it was absolutely a missed call as the TE caught the ball beyond the line of scrimmage and the lineman was beyond 3 yards before pass was caught. I do think these calls should be reviewable at the higher level, but being a ref is a hard job. As far as holding goes, it's holding every play. This was still a good game. Hopefully the PAC Schools can get into the RR to help Grove get to the table in regards to At-large bid as we currently stand. However, Juniata going 0fer is definitely not going to help SOS.

[Bob.Gregg]

Fan, it was a very enjoyable game to watch.

There IS holding on nearly every play, but when #55 (right side) got beat, he grabbed the jersey of the defender going past him out in the open. That's HOLDING.

Regarding the ineligible downfield, it's not even close. The pass is caught 4 yards beyond the LOS, and the O-lineman (#56) was 2-3 yards ahead of that.

I recognize the difficulties officials have. I've worn basketball stripes. I've worn baseball blues.  But these missed calls in this situation are indefensible. They were clear, out in the open and blown. Period. And they contributed to put points on the board.  That's unacceptable.

[ADL70]

On Twitter, I saw that a player from Northern Kentucky was among the recruits hosted at last Saturday's game. His is name Jacob Fields. I know that the Indians have a corporate sponsor and now it's Progressive Field, but I couldn't help thinking of Jacobs Field.

[WashJeff68]

Bob,

Watched the game and listened to your broadcast. You were one play ahead of the video, so I always knew what was coming😀😀.

Not pretty, but a good comeback. That is clearly one offense that needs a lot of prep since you only see it once a year in the PAC. Great recovery for the Prez in second half.

Also watched most of the CWRU game. I'm sure our Case friends here are disappointed. Three conference losses already. As has been mentioned here Case missed the Spring and has lots of new players.

Also looks like the PAC is on the rise and will be a stronger conference going forward.