FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[Dutch12]

Thanks, Hugh's been doing it for a long time so he's pretty good.  I just enjoy getting the best seat in the house every weekend.  

[oldtimer4774]

I dont have any complaints about the South Region rankings---except one team.  How did Ferrum get such a high regional ranking??? anyone

[Cleveland Cartel]

Here are the South Region Rankings.....Lets hear some thoughts!!!!

South Region 
1. Trinity (Texas) 5-0 6-0
2. Ferrum 7-0 7-0
3. Mary Hardin-Baylor 4-1 5-1
4. Thiel 7-0 7-0
5. Bridgewater (Virginia) 4-1 5-1
6. Hardin-Simmons 5-1 6-1
7. Johns Hopkins 6-0 7-0
8. Salisbury 2-0 6-1
9. Washington and Jefferson 5-1 7-1
10. Wesley 4-0 7-1

[Cleveland Cartel]

That is my only complaint also is Ferrum.  I looked at their schedule and the SOS can not be stronger than Thiels.  This is no indiciator by any means the SOS, but i will say this.  They beat Emory and Henry 29-13!  Only 29-13!!!! I understand a Win is a Win but only by 16!!!  Everyone in this forum knows WJ gave it to E&H 50 rip and would do it again!!  Thiel beat WJ by three in OT and everyone in this forum should have something to say about Ferrum being number 3.  OH well let them have it now because it wont be there for long!!! They also have to get past Christopher newport to win the conference and get the automatic bid and Newport is only a game behind them for the conference lead.  Its all in the air!!!!

[SaintsFAN]

Wesley got blown out in their loss.  Not only that but shut out also.  I'm not so sure about them...

[Ron Boerger]

I would have put DePauw there, but they barely beat lost to Wesley in week one and apparently the AA thinks week 1 games mean more than week 8.   

[edited to fix my error which said DPU beat Wesley when they in actuality lost to them.]

[spliskin]

Cartel,

There will be some reshuffling of the rankings over then next 3 weeks as some teams will lose late-season games. Still too early to tell who will be ranked where and who will host who. I find it interesting that you are down on Ferrum without having seen them play. You know looking at scores and stats & who they beat doesn't tell you much. Ferrum is undefeated at this point and regardless of who you play, that is a feat in today's competitive D3 world. All these teams can do is keep winning to secure their place in the region, especially Pool B & C teams.

I think it is more curious that Mt. Union got bumped down to #4 in the North after the ONU loss. The committee's attitude appears to be "What have you done for me lately?", paying little attention to Mount's history in the post-season.

[SaintsFAN]

Gotcha, BFB.


Thanks for explanation

[D O.C.]

Congratulations to Chris Edwards on his nomination.

[Cleveland Cartel]

Spliskin,

No new fact that there is still 3 weeks to the season left and shuffling will take place. 
You are right I have not seen them play and I am basing Ferrum on a game vs E&H.

Let me ask you this:
Have you seen them play, what is your basis on Ferrum? and why are typing info about the North region with ONU and Mount in this forum? 

Ferrum is undefeated yes, but so is Thiel.  Look at their schedules there is not one playoff contender in any of Ferrum's victories this season.   One possibilty exists if Christopher Newport beats them to force a 3 way tie in that conference. In fact Ferrum's SOS is rated 26th in the country while Thiel's is at 9th.   Both Methodist and Newport have two losses and they are most likely a long shot for making playoffs.  Thiel has WJ (one loss team) (that is they make the playoffs, which i believe they will.)  Ferrum can recieve the automatic bid and Thiel and WJ both do not which shows their strengths more as a team standpoint for being involved in the playoff race still, and bringing their physical and mental toughness every week.   You bring up Mounts history Ferrum does not have deep playoff history and either does thiel. 

It does sound the its what have you done for me lately from the NCAA

But if you want to live by that you are saying to me the Tomcats deserve a higher seeding than Ferrum

[OldPhart]

But if you want to live by that you are saying to me the Tomcats deserve a higher seeding than Ferrum

To quote Kenny Rogers "There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done."  Sure it would be nice to see Thiel at a higher seed at this point.  I do tend to scratch my head on the initial placement of Ferrum.  If the USAC had a better postseason history I might buy into it - but this is not the case.  Maybe Thiel's all-too-close 2OT win against Wburg has something to do with it.  All of Ferrum's wins have been in regulation.

Geez though - I am glad the current #4 seed in the South doesn't have to play the current #4 in the North!  I would personally swap the #2 and 4 in that region as well.  Yes, Wabash is good - but putting those two OAC teams behind them seems odd.

The other question I have is, supposing W&J wins out - do you think they will be assured a bid?  I know the South can send more than 8 - but am a little concerned at their initial placement.  At this point, I am thinking that in the East that LL's top 2 will go and that their 3rd one (currently RPI) will drop out to make room for W&J to ship in.  Is this reasonable or am I missing some additional AQ in the East who will take the 3rd LL spot?

[spliskin]

Let me ask you this:
Have you seen them play, what is your basis on Ferrum? and why are typing info about the North region with ONU and Mount in this forum? 

Why are you dissing Ferrum on the PAC board when they are not a PAC team? Go to the "south region playoff watch" or the USAC board for that. I'm simply responding tit for tat to your post. You opened the door by questioning the wisdom of the committee on the position of the rankings. I pointed out the Mt. Union ranking simply to prove a point. They are the 4th ranked team in the North Region right now...do you think that the 4 teams above them are better than Mount? I guess not, so as I said it's too early to be complaining about seedings at this point.

Thiel hasn't won the PAC since 1972. They still have to challenge TMC to get that job done (no easy task), then win their last two non-conference games to secure their spot in the post season. If they get it done Saturday it will be the first time in school history they've won 8 games, let alone make the playoffs. I'd say you should be pleased they are ranked at the same level as Mt. Union in their respective regions rather than complaining about how unfair things are.

BTW, your talking to a Tomcat fan who wants to see them get it done. I am concerned that guys like you are hindering their ability to focus on the task at hand of simply winning their next game by popping off on this board. Let the games play out and for God's sakes, at least "ACT" like you've been there before.

To answer your question about Ferrum; no I have not seen them play & it doesn't matter how good they are or are not. Thiel needs to focus on TMC, not Ferrum.

[Cleveland Cartel]

Spliskin,

Dissing Ferrum?  Am I complaining about the seeding??  Am I pleased that they are ranked at the same level as Mount? 

Never dissed just brought up facts about Ferrum and their SOS that makes their strong 3rd place ranking questionable.  Everyone in this board was taken by suprise by that and it just was not me. 

Whose complaining about the seeding?   I am not complaining about the seeding its an amazing feat for what Thiel has accomplished already and will continue to do this season.  There is not one sentance about Thiels ranking in there, and that is because I am proud of where they are and they have accomplished through 7 games this season. They deserve every spec of it and just like every other Alum wishing they could be on this years team.  Nobody is making Thiel believe they are better than they are.  This isn't about dissing (we are not children) its just bring up facts and the fact that they played E&H was a coincidence and something I decided to bring to light. 

About Mount, I will not even touch that subject. 

BTW, your talking to a Tomcat fan who wants to see them get it done. I am concerned that guys like you are hindering their ability to focus on the task at hand of simply winning their next game by popping off on this board. Let the games play out and for God's sakes, at least "ACT" like you've been there before.

Trust me, Leip will have those guys focused on one thing 4 quarters of consistent football on a even keel as he likes to say.   They are reading their playbooks this week or studying their books for a test, and not checking on two PAC fan in the PAC forum.  They make those guys realize that nothing can be taken for grant it and that there is no tommorrow.  As someone who has played under Leip you quickly learn the history of Thiel and doing whatever it takes week in and week out.   Ive been there before on a state champion team in highschool and 4 years of RYFP at Thiel.   
I believe I have been there with the Band of Brothers for 4 years and counting.

PS  Look around you everyone in this board is talking about the possibility of the playoffs and what would happen.  If you want to chastise me thats fine, but everyone who has made a post about playoff outcomes should also be on your S$%t List.  We speculate because are still devoted to our respective teams and want to see the best happen for them and every team in the PAC.   

[PittTBCW]

There was a really good article in the Post Gazette (Pgh Paper) today on Satterfield and the Tomcats. I think its great that Satterfield has had so much success because he is one of the hardest workers and most one of the most dedicated person I have ever met.

Congrats men and keep taking care of the little things so the big things can happen. Stay focused and good luck this week!

Go Tomcats!!!

Also congrats are also in order for W&J's premier QB. Edwards was recognized as I am sure most of you saw for the scholarship. Congrats and keep up the good work!

[Dutch12]

PittTB, thanks for pointing out that article.