FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

Bob.Gregg · November 10, 2005, 04:56:28 PM

Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 10, 2005, 04:32:01 PM
Ryan, I like reading your columns....but I think the comment you put in there regarding the tackle situation was unnecessary. Just as you didn't like being called out last week, I am sure Thomas More doesn't want that either. To do so after what happened last week smells of hypocrisy....

On the other hand, SaintsFan, this kid is showing up in national rankings for defensive statistics.

There were 19 plays in which THREE TMC players combined for the tackle, despite what the statistical manual advises: "Only in the rarest of cases would more than two assisted tackles be credited."

I know W&J's offense can be high-powered at times, but 19 plays met the "rarest of cases" test???

Come on!

firewater · November 10, 2005, 05:02:45 PM

So sorry about the typo. W and J will not get shipped out. If they get selected the committee will make them go through Texas to get to the semis. Thiel will handle the first round team and then beat Wand J again 28-10. W and J will play Ferrum in the first round. Thiel's run will stop in Texas and their fans should be proud.

religion_major · November 10, 2005, 05:40:58 PM

firewater,
I personally cannot see W&J getting sent to Ferrum in the first round. Either W&J or Wesley will get sent to the east. I believe that Johns Hopkins has "earned" the right to go to Texas. Geographiclly I think W&J goes east and Wesley stays in the south. Bridgewater will most likely play Ferrum and Thiel will host Wesley. The main reason for this is the fact that the NCAA will pinch pennies to save flight money. Hopkins is a safe bet to loose in Texas thus keeping the sub-regional from having a flight second round. The committee will avoid a W&J/Thiel first round rematch. The only way that W&J goes to Ferrum is if Wesley goes east, leaving two long drives, BC to Thiel and W&J to Ferrum. I don't see that happening.

Cleveland Cartel · November 10, 2005, 06:46:26 PM

How about Thiel playing Capital in the first round in Greenville?

That is another aspect and capital is only a 2 and half our drive from canton....

d3fbalumn · November 10, 2005, 07:06:04 PM

Quote from: firewater on November 10, 2005, 05:02:45 PM
Thiel will handle the first round team and then beat Wand J again 28-10.

Dude, you are just an instigator trying to get a rise. This is good material you've got going on though.

religion_major · November 10, 2005, 08:35:09 PM

Cartel,
Cap would have to get in first. Second that would mean moving Cap to the South Region bracket where there are at least nine playoff qualifiers, assuming W&J gets in. Why move Cap in and then move two South Teams, W&J and Wesley?, elseware. It just doesn't make any sense.

Pat Coleman · November 10, 2005, 08:46:35 PM

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 10, 2005, 04:56:28 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 10, 2005, 04:32:01 PM
Ryan, I like reading your columns....but I think the comment you put in there regarding the tackle situation was unnecessary. Just as you didn't like being called out last week, I am sure Thomas More doesn't want that either. To do so after what happened last week smells of hypocrisy....
On the other hand, SaintsFan, this kid is showing up in national rankings for defensive statistics.

There were 19 plays in which THREE TMC players combined for the tackle, despite what the statistical manual advises: "Only in the rarest of cases would more than two assisted tackles be credited."

I know W&J's offense can be high-powered at times, but 19 plays met the "rarest of cases" test???

Come on!

I expect the NCAA national office will have something to say about that. Contrary to what you might expect, they do take this seriously.

PittTBCW · November 11, 2005, 01:06:35 AM

I think the Tomcats have played excellent ball thus far. Aslong as they are still hungry I think the sky could be the limit for these guys. They have a great defense which by the way wins national titles they can run, pass, and have even shown they can come back in the worst situations. I think Thiel can make a ligitimate run in the playoffs as long as they focus one game at a time and still want it like they did the PAC championship. The Tomcats wanted the PAC's if they want more the sky is the limit. But as mentioned before anyone can beat anyone on any given Saturday period!

Cleveland Cartel · November 11, 2005, 07:53:27 AM

Who does WJ have their close eyes on this weekend? Who will have to lose to increase their probabilities of getting their name called on the SHOWCASE WITH PAT COLEMAN! Any games that they should be watching this weekend???

Bob you might have the best inside scoop on what games they will be watching this weekend?

Cleveland Cartel · November 11, 2005, 07:59:35 AM

I do believe WJ will get in due to their solid playoff history and how they dominated late into the playoffs last year. NCAA knows this team will perform and play ball in november and they are situated nicely in Geography. Saving money and pairing teams up that are close in geography should be their number 1 criteria of the NCAA. J/K But I would think they are South enough to play teams from VA, and East enough to go out to the East cost, and even if for some odd reason they were shipped out to the North. WJ is not that far from say, Capital and Mount Union. I am not saying that this will be a matchup by any means. Just that they are geographically well positioned to where other playoff teams are.

Cleveland Cartel · November 11, 2005, 08:03:36 AM

Religion Major,

My original post about capital came from

QuoteLLAMA GUY

, and heres his predictions as of now. It made soms sense, but I wanted to post it to see what you thought also. Ranked 5th and playing in a tough OAC conference. I would tend to believe they have a good shot at getting in as long as they win this weekend. Where they will end up I have no clue but it was something to Ponder??

QuoteLooks like Capital will get a Pool C bid with 2 losses. They are ranked #5 in the North region this week.

New South Region prediction:

1st Rd:

Hardin-Simmons at Trinity
Johns Hopkins at UMHB
Capital at Thiel
Bridgewater at Ferrum (Would reverse sites if Ferrum loses to CNU)

SaintsFAN · November 11, 2005, 08:14:39 AM

Bob,

I am not taking issue with those having opinoins on the tackle subject....just the vehicle used to voice it.

I'm sure TMC is not creating stats to elevate Carlisle..

Bob.Gregg · November 11, 2005, 08:17:40 AM

Quote from: Cleveland Cartel on November 11, 2005, 07:53:27 AM
Who does WJ have their close eyes on this weekend? ...what games will they be watching this weekend?

Of course, THE Pool B game is Linfield at Willamette. A Willamette win changes lots of projections and brackets.

Also, Pool B Whitworth at Pacific Lutheran

Other big games from the Presidents' viewpoint:

Wabash at DePauw
Hardin-Simmons at Texas Lutheran
Alfred at St. John Fisher
RPI at Union
Montclair at Rowan
the OAC games
Oshkosh at LaCrosse

That'll keep us busy in this little corner of the world...

Bob.Gregg · November 11, 2005, 08:22:31 AM

Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 11, 2005, 08:14:39 AM...I'm sure TMC is not creating stats to elevate Carlisle..

Well, if TMC REGULARLY credits THREE players with tackles, and the REST OF THE NCAA credits a maximum of TWO, why does TMC do it?

SaintsFan, I enjoy posting with you, but I think TMC is out of bounds on this issue!

Cleveland Cartel · November 11, 2005, 08:26:29 AM

Bob,

Busy weekend too bad these games aren't broadcasted on TV at all could be a pretty interesting Saturday if it were!

If they broadcasted all these games like the Sunday NFL ticket it would be an awesome NCAA day with ups and downs trying to see all the games that could have an effect on WJ. I would not move if it were myself. Miller High Life (If you cant live it drink it!) and some pizza from dominos for the 3 for 5 deal!!! And only the gents are allowed in the room! It would be a perfect saturday afternoon!