FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

gottaloveit · August 10, 2006, 08:28:08 PM

I find it funny that in the national rankings that W&J is ranked higher than Thiel. W&J's coach didn't even pick his team to win the confernce this year he picked Thiel. But yet they get the higher vote in the preseason rankings.
Good Luck to everyone in the PAC this year, play hard and play your best game.

PittTBCW · August 10, 2006, 09:13:46 PM

AC,
Like your insight alot. You made some very very good points. I think the best point was that whoever stays the healthiest will prevail. I agree with you 100%. I also did not realize the tough schedule that Waynesburg plays. Looks like they will be fighting an uphill battle all year seemingly playing a playoff game each week. Nevertheless every week for every team in the PAC is a playoff game until the automatic bid comes into play.

Saints,
I must has misunderstood your first post. I am exctied to see how they fair now that they got a taste of the conference last year. I am sure there is alot of excitment buzzing around the program now that they are in one of the better DIII conferences now and that the conference is only going to get better with the years and addition of more teams. I look forward to their match up vs Thiel and W&J as I am sure they will be a hungry team just like Thiel was last year.

Gottaloveit,
If you recall last year Thiel beat W&J @ W&J and did not pass them up in the rankings until later in the year despite having an umblemished record. As I learned last year from the vetern members in the forum that these rankings really are not that all important. DIII is lucky that they get to settle it on the field unlike D1.

Good luck to all teams and healthy camps!

GO TOMCATS!!!

Pat Coleman · August 11, 2006, 01:16:43 AM

Quote from: gottaloveit on August 10, 2006, 08:28:08 PM
I find it funny that in the national rankings that W&J is ranked higher than Thiel. W&J's coach didn't even pick his team to win the confernce this year he picked Thiel. But yet they get the higher vote in the preseason rankings.
Good Luck to everyone in the PAC this year, play hard and play your best game.

In many conferences, the coach isn't allowed to vote for his own team. Perhaps that's why W&J voted for Thiel? Hmm ...

PittTBCW · August 13, 2006, 06:08:26 PM

Pat I believe in the PAC you are allowed. I am not 100 percent sure but I am pretty sure.

OldPhart · August 13, 2006, 07:18:37 PM

Thiel comes back with a lot of talent - but has lost the Satterfield/Chambers combo which contributed heavily to their run last year. Now Thiel starts with 2 on the road and one at home. Last year, Geneva was an NAIA playoff team (1st round exit), Alfred (who many felt were shortchanged by the NCAA) won their ECAC bid agains Maine Maritime in convincing fashion, and Albion (NCAA 1st round loss to Wabash).

Cleveland Cartel · August 13, 2006, 11:31:16 PM

Pitt,

Its been awhile since i have posted on this board and with camps starting everywhere now i had to get on the gravy train. Hope all is well with you and the fam is doing good. All is well here in Cleveland also. Should be an exciting season with the PAC up for grabs more than ever this season.

I have one question if anyone can help me out. I know WJ has lost alot of their production and playmakers with their QB, running back, except for Mendel, and also a couple of tough recievers. But the always seem to have a good ability to bring in transfers from D 1 schools to fill in those holes. If you remember Krepps was a transfer into WJ.

In their write up for this year they talk about a couple of solid transfers and i believe one of them was a QB.

How have their transfers been so far this year? What other positions besides QB and will they have an impact for WJ this year? ala Krepps.... when he came to WJ..

And for that matter...Does anyone know if there were any transfers who will make an impact this year for their team?

AC24#724 · August 14, 2006, 08:01:17 AM

OP and CC

Thiel maybe 1-2 after first 3 games, lost way too many players especially the big play players QB,WR and plenty of Defensive Backs(3). The run game fed off that which will be gone this year and will be 80% run team. Defenses can stack up on that. Surprised they were voted as #1 team in PAC, I still feel this is most balanced Conference has been in years.
WJ will I'm sure be bringing in the transfers, I don't know who they got but they probably were trying for QB first. Not much experience with otther QB after Edwards departed.They have good WR in McCafferty.
Who will be first team to lose in PAC between(WJ, THIEL, TM)
Also, what PAC team will make some news by knocking off a ranked team unexpectedly?

AC

Bureau chief · August 14, 2006, 11:05:22 AM

Cleveland,

Clarification: Krepps was not a D-1 transfer. He came to W&J out of Belle Vernon High School. Played mostly as punt and kickoff returner his freshman year before becoming a regular WR. Also, no D-1 transfers for QB. Two transfers, one, I believe from a DII school and the othehr from D-1AA, are both WR's.

Cleveland Cartel · August 14, 2006, 06:38:15 PM

Bureau Chief,

Thanks for the corrections. Out of those transfers who are supposely WR's will they have an impact this year?

AC24,

McCafferty definetly showed talent and the quicks to be a solid possesion reciever for the Presidents this year.

Westminster is not quite ready for the limelight this year. Grove City sounds as if they will be a stronger team this year with their depth at Runningback. They might be close to pulling off an upset, but the Wing T will be their downfall as teams will key in their run game. Bethany has a couple of solid recievers but does not have the fire power to get them to the next level.

In my opinion, Waynesburg with Ryan Abels and Eric Daniels and QB Tres Cobb should be tough to stop and have plenty of experience to win games late in the 4th quarter. Also Mike Shields WR returns who led the team with 15.9/yds a catch. Their oline lost their two tackle positions which is critical, but if you run between the tackles like Waynesburg likes to do it should not be too much of a problem.

The entire D- Line is back including two time all conference junior Mike Czerwien and they have lost a couple of linebackers, but the critical point will be with thier secondary. They lost everyone and if they can keep the ball in front of them and not get beat deep they will be in all games this year. This might help them with the graduation of Edwards and Krepps and Satterfield and Chambers. They could be very well primed for a run at PAC's.

AC24#724 · August 15, 2006, 08:14:03 AM

CC

Like your prognosis alot on teams, good read on your part on the Waynesburg team. QB, Cobb with a year under his belt should be better prepared mentally to handle leadership role of QB. The team has probably the best 1-2 punch in D3 Football in Abels and Daniels. I watched alot of the games last year in D3 Playoffs and find then tough to surpass skills/speed wise. Abels is explosive and is sneaking up on being Alltime Leading Rusher at WC. 165 yards without a doubt in reach in maybe first game or by second. 3 Time First team ALL PAC speaks for itself. Daniels, small, shifty and is a tough find behind Offesnive line. Sheilds, had good breakout year behind the 2 graduate All Time pass Receivers at WC. Quickness, Hands are good. Other WR position up for grabs. Secondary would be soft spot as you mentioned on D, Coach would be looking for some players to step up in the regard. Speaking of Coach, last year at this time WC started fresh with new Coach to understand team and they of what I have seen in some games last year seemed to start gelling as team in latter part of season. That too, also a plus for team in addition to new field turf should put soeme extra bounce in step for key player's. Early trip to (Wesley#7 ranked) could be problem for Jackets, 2 All American's on team in DE and Safety and retiurners of many from last years playoff team. Wooster 2nd game no easy task as well. Host of Seniors returning
Thomas More, if offense can contribute to solid defensive crew returning (Carlisle, West,Willis)they could turn some heads as well. Thiel, has home games against WJ and Waynesburg which could prove to be big time tests as seasons develops. Their trip to TM will be a test in itself, tough place to play.

Let the fun begin, season about 16-17 days away.

Bureau chief · August 15, 2006, 01:41:55 PM

Cleveland,

Too early to say what, if any, impact the WR transfers will have. Even with the graduation of Krepps, Miller, Soeder, et al, W&J still has some players with some speed and good hands. Experience, however, is another matter. One kid came in from Shippensburg and the other from Lafayette. Will know more after an intrasquad scrimmage this Saturday and after a scrimmage Aug. 26 at Mount Union. The big question for the Presidents is which quarterback can get the ball to the receivers. But I guess these and other questions will be answered during training camp. Should be a competitive PAC season.

Cleveland Cartel · August 15, 2006, 06:15:49 PM

Bureau,

Great Insight, and I would be interested in seeing the scrimmage between WJ and Mount. Is that going to be open to the public? and if so what time?

Thanks....

Outsider14 · August 16, 2006, 07:49:28 AM

haven't been able to keep up w/ posts (been a little busy), but i'm glad it's heating up in here.....
how bout a little SVC pub? http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2549967

PittTBCW · August 17, 2006, 09:12:58 PM

Hello All!!!

Glad to see some people popping up now that camps are in session.

CC,

Things are great. I am very busy with my high school camp as well. The fam is well and Matty is coaching with me at Baldwin. We need to meet up for a few cold ones at the ole Topper in Greenville after we catch a game. Hope all is well and say hello to the fam for me.

There were alot of great points made by all of the posters. The point I agree with most is that the conference is up for grabs this year. I think There may be a blemish on each teams record this year from another PAC foe. I hope that all the competition does not prevent a PAC team from reaching the playoffs. Were getting closer to kickoff and I can't wait. This is my favorite time of the year!

Good Luck Tomcats!!!

AC24#724 · August 18, 2006, 10:13:54 AM

PittTBCW and All

Tomcats should be tough, alot of new faces but should still have the hunger from last year's run.
Had been traveling near Waynesburg yesterday and had to stop and see New Field/Turf. It is awesome looking for sure. Major face lift for college and all sports. Should prove for some interesting plays this year at WC. Looks like a fast track!!
Wesley's season's preview on D3 is very appealing or should I say frightening if you are first or any opponent.
Anyone know much of any scrimmages in PAC? As I travel over-road in the areas wouldn't mind taking a peak.
Two weeks and counting.