FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

PittTBCW · October 08, 2006, 11:49:56 AM

If you were not in Greenville you missed a really good game. It was a tale of two halves. Thiel rolled the first half but key turnovers and W&J's rushing attack was the difference in the second half as they were able to pull the come from behind win on the road in a tough environment.

The reverse pass up by a few points can be easily second guessed. But if he would have done what the coach wanted him to do Thiel would have had a really good chance of winning the game. Lascola was only suppossed to throw the ball if he was wide open. He could have easily ran 30 yards or more down the sideline into W&J territory. Instead the pass is intercepted and returned deep into Tomcat territory where they eventually kicked the game winner.

Congrats to W&J on the win.

oldtimer4774 · October 08, 2006, 01:23:58 PM

Damn I hate when the better team loses........but thats football.....congrats to Thiel and W&J on a great game

the_burghboy · October 08, 2006, 03:32:26 PM

Quote from: oldtimer4774 on October 08, 2006, 01:23:58 PM
Damn I hate when the better team loses........but thats football.....congrats to Thiel and W&J on a great game

Bitter for one please?

South Willy · October 08, 2006, 06:54:26 PM

To All...

Didn't get to see the champions battle it out but came north to see the Bison win their first PAC contest since 2001. Overall a good competitive game with BC's aerial attack outlasting GC's running attack. Defenses giving up lots of yards on both sides of the ball. Great homecoming win for BC and some great tailgating well into the night.
I'm not looking forward to next week in Waynesburg but if the weather is clear and BC can toss it all day, anything can happen. CC, nice call on the game as Cruse and Parker both had big days.

the_burghboy · October 09, 2006, 01:15:09 AM

Just a question: Is this really a 'rival game' when in the last 25 years one team has won 24 games?

TC442005 · October 09, 2006, 08:05:38 AM

looking at the last 6 years of Coach Leip's Thiel team.. It has became a Rivallry...The better team will win the game, but both teams feel it on sunday morning..

Kira & Jaxon's Dad · October 09, 2006, 08:47:41 AM

Off the subject, but for all you W&J fans, your favorite Mayor got to spend some time with a certain UK-Pittsburgh Hater:

http://kdka.com/video/?id=20829@kdka.dayport.com

oldtimer4774 · October 09, 2006, 09:02:01 AM

Since coach leip and the new coaching staff arrived in 2001, W&J has become a rivalry. The games are very competitive and its not a given anymore that W&J is going to win. Scores from the last few years:

2001= 38-20 W&J
2002= 21-17 W&J
2003= 17-10 W&J
2004= 34-10 W&J
2005= 38-35 TC
2006= 27-23 W&J

Thiel usually finds a way to shoot themselves in the foot against W&J.

Cleveland Cartel · October 09, 2006, 09:20:22 AM

Burgh Boy,

Great to see you finnally posting on here again.

Great game this weekend at Greenville. Mendle is the real deal and i fortenatly enough had an opportunity to meet his father after the game also, and the man is a saint and you can see his discipline he has implemented in his son as he has a calm cool wager about him throughout the game. He is also calm in making his cuts and dodging Thiel defenders. Hes not real quick but he is very effective and a smart runner. I truly believe he was a difference maker.

Thiel was the better team for 3 and half quarters of play and turnovers plagued them in the fourth and WJ being a solid team took advantage. Church was being taunted by the Thiel students along the fence and he stayed calm and also he ran over to the Offensive coordinator to tell him to call up the fade in the back of the endzone which Thiel's corner bit on and he found Mcafferty wide open in the endzone. Perfect play call by church.

Great Plays and players on both sides. Thiel did a solid job of moving the ball effectivinly on WJ for the most part including the TD on their first drive of the game. Thiel had to win the battle of special teams because of the lack of a punting by WJ. Thiel had better field position all day for the most part, and the game won until two turnovers plagued them.

I predicted Lascola to have a big day and he did with lots of receptions, a touchdown and RAC yards , but they called up the same (Roll out and throw deep play) play again and WJ was ready for it. I did not agree with that call either, but you have to roll with the punches and WJ took advantage.

Great Game I think everyone was suprised by the way Thiel moved the ball on WJ throughout the game, and how their defense did a nice job of slowing down WJ's offense.

Billy Blankenship solid game also and I must say I was very impressed with his adjustments he made throughout the game, and when he saw a reciever open down field he completed the pass.

Goodluck to WJ the rest of the way as they look like the only team who maybe respresenting the PAC come November.

the_burghboy · October 09, 2006, 09:23:59 AM

So because the games are close, it's a rivalry?

I have to think that it probably wasn't a 'rivalry' game from the W&J end until they actually lost last year, and probably needs to happen more in terms of actual wins from Thiel before it's classified as such.

I agree it's closer and not a 'given'. We know what close counts in, and football isn't one of them.

Cleveland Cartel · October 09, 2006, 09:33:51 AM

Burgh Boy,

Good to see you back on here defending the Presidents. Your right its at looking at the last 25 years its not a rivalry, but now its atleast a competitive game and not a given anymore.

Something we have talked about earlier in this forum was the level of talent throughout the conference has leveled some, and teams have been more competetive in challenging for the conference title. The days of WJ being a lock to win the conference are not as clear as they used to be.

Rivalry might still be farfetched if you look at the last 25 years, but being a competitive and hard hitting game is starting to become an expectation. Looking forward to seeing how the rest of the PAC settles and if anyone can unseat WJ or give Thiel a second loss in PAC play. Goodluck to everyone this week.

the_burghboy · October 09, 2006, 01:23:26 PM

Good to hear from you as well CC. I havent posted in a few weeks, but read a lot last week and enjoyed the banter.

As for defending the team, obviously I want them to win, but I still have concerns about how they will hold up through the season. I agree the talent level has evened out, but also hold my alma mater as accountable for not maintaining their standards as a program as much as Thiel for improving their program.

The football program at W&J should strive to reach the levels of a Mount Union instead of battling Thiel for who has the better program.

Nothing against Thiel, but beating them doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.

Cleveland Cartel · October 09, 2006, 02:09:27 PM

BURGH BOY,

I understand that completely and I take it as a compliment. Some might say its a knock on us but really your giving Thiel College credit for putting the money and resources together to bring in a solid established staff and continue to put the money and make improvements along the way.

Thiel has done that with the football team and it has payed dividends in the sense that more alumni and residents in the area are coming to see football games at Alumni Stadium.

Being that you graduated in the days when WJ dominated this conference easily every year I am sure it is frustrating to see the transformation that has gone on in the PAC. Great comment about how the program should of been battling with Mount as opposed to Thiel.

I believe the last great team that could of done that would of been Dawson, Joey Nichols, and Frye. All three of those studs I believe could of played at the next level whether it was Europe or Canada, and I believe Dawson had tryouts for a few NFL teams as did Frye at WR. That was also the last year of Banazcak and then the new crew took over with his departure.

Overall I understand your mentality and why you believe you should be beating on these teams like you are used to seeing for the last 25 years!
Just like the browns before the NFL was actually formed they won the American Football League Championship almost every year in the 50's and early 60's. Now in the NFL we havent won a single championship. It is aweful and think about the older crowd who are in their 60's now who havent seen a championship sinc ethe Indians won back in 1954. Pretty Bad here in Cleveland!

the_burghboy · October 09, 2006, 02:52:22 PM

CC,

You couldn't be more right about my opinion on Thiel. I think it's fantastic that they have improved the program to it's current level. I'm also sure that they don't want to stop there. I think it's great not only having a coach that has such an accomplished resume as Leipheimer does, but also the intangible of being a Thiel alum himself.

Bob.Gregg · October 09, 2006, 02:59:22 PM

CC, make no mistake, W&J has come back to the PAC.

However, that move is absolutely dwarfed by the Leips and Bounds move forward by the Thiel program.

This isn't your daddy's Tomcats! It's not even your older brothers!

I've covered PAC football since the '81-'82 season regularly. Thiel's move up in the conference is, by far, the most significant move in a short period of time this conference has seen in those 25 years.