FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

the_burghboy · October 30, 2006, 07:38:07 PM

Someone bring the cheese, because there certainly is no shortage of 'whine' here. What's funny is you never see anyone complaining about officiating when they WIN the game. The 'chopblock' is my favorite though and gave me quite a chuckle.

As for CMU, I was young in my tenure at W&J when they left the PAC and remember the 'another direction' line as well as that they were looking for a conference that had 'the same standards in academics' to the PAC, which I found to be a pretty weak argument. I also found it funny that other games scheduled for years after their departure included PAC opponents, but ones maybe not as competitive.

Maybe it was a better fit for their other sports programs. I do remember the feeling as though they were sneaking out the back door at the time, but who knows? CMU hasn't been very relevant since from what I recall, which is a shame because I think both programs could benefit from playing one another on a more regular basis.

BDTartan · October 30, 2006, 08:22:59 PM

I agree with you on a football standpoint. I don't know about the other sports, or the academics involved. I don't see them moving out of the UAA anytime soon, but at least the UAA has reached a scheduling agreement with the NCAC. Should help bring a little more competition to the UAA football teams. They have only been relevant on the football field for about two years after they left the PAC. The year after they left when they made the playoffs and lost 17-7 to Lycoming and this year when they have won their first UAA title in 9 years and are on their way to their second playoff appearance since leaving the PAC. Sounds like that would be a much anticipated game if the Tartans and Presidents hooked up in the first round.

denfd · October 31, 2006, 08:20:15 AM

I also saw the game at Cameron. The officiating was fine. Some close calls presumably to keep the game under control. Waynesburg was outcoached. W&J adapted to the weather with some exceptional playcalling. Their bend but not break defense dominated Waynesburg in the first half and put them away in the second. Blaming a 30-3 loss on homer officials or worse in this case is just plain silly.

Bob.Gregg · October 31, 2006, 03:53:46 PM

2006 Presidents' Athletic Conference Individual Statistics Through games of Oct 28, 2006

RUSHING Team Cl G Att Yds Avg TD Yds/G Long
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1. Ryan Mendel.... W&J SR 8 205 1007 4.9 13 125.9 64
2. Eric Daniels.... WAY SR 8 121 585 4.8 4 73.1 31
3. Ryan Abels..... WAY SR 8 139 562 4.0 9 70.2 56

SaintsFAN · October 31, 2006, 04:28:45 PM

DATE: October 31st, 2006

For Immediate release

Board,

I don't know....officiating is really big now all of a sudden. It seems like officials are missing more and more calls and its starting to effect games. A call here or a call there is really all a team needs to turn a close game that can be decided by a field goal into a monkeystomp. There needs to be some more accountability for these officials blowing games for teams.

Sincerely,

The Minnesota Vikings Coaching Staff

South Willy · October 31, 2006, 04:57:36 PM

CC...

Cruse's parent's are Bethany alumni.

I wonder which BC team will show up at CMU???

Cleveland Cartel · October 31, 2006, 05:41:42 PM

South Willy,

Understandable, and I cant knock it either, I went to Thiel and was part of Leipheimers first recruiting class. I went to a program that had not won more than 3 games in about 10 years, and now that graduated class is able to say we helped pave the way.

Maybe that is the case there also.

AC,

The level of productive officiating has been at a shortage this season. I have to give them some credit because the level of talent and the speed of the game has increased. More and more talent is starting to come into the PAC and these games are getting closer and tighter throughout the season goes on. That is a positive sign but this is also means maybe these refs who are partime refs and have other jobs may need to be required to attend CE credits for refs....Somethign needs to be done and they need to catch up with the speed of the game, because they are losing the battle!

denfd · November 01, 2006, 08:43:00 AM

To The Minn. Vikings Coaching Staff,

Good News!! Plans are now in preparation to send all NFL Refs to re-education camps to provide them with sensitivity training in dealing with whiners. Inferior teams must be aided in their up hill battles.

AC24#724 · November 01, 2006, 12:37:07 PM

Bobby Boy, you may want to get your Kleenex Box out or help out with some splinter pulling for 2003 season bench—where #3 wasn't good enough to play RB in year 2003 but even with more senior RB in Bettinazzi who Abels as "Freshman" also beat at 826 yards while just :Dplaying 1/2 of season. Note the 201 carries last year Bobby with Abels, 4 less carries than Mendel this year and 292 moe yards rushing.
Read em and Weap Bobby!!!These are from the archives that all of us can Thank the SID's at each College. Thanks fellows!!!for the Facts!!
Like night and day comparison and the only way to slow Abels down is play him less than 1/2 the time as it appeared to be the case this year.

Abels:
3 First Team All PAC Conf Selection
Mendel: None

Abels: Waynesburg College Records
Career Rushing
Career Scoring
Career TD's

Mendel: WJ College Records
None: and will be None

2005 Season
Abels 201 carries 1299 yards
Mendel 156 carries 823 yards

2004 Season
Abels 168 carries 957 yards
Mendel 158 carries 790 yards

2003 Season
Abels 182 carries 877 yards
Mendel 31 carries 154 yards

AC24#724 · November 01, 2006, 12:47:04 PM

Bobby..........you just wouldn't leave it alone on something that "I sure didn't start" between the two RB's at each college the last several years.
But I did have to finish the item once and for all.

Looking ahead to this week?
Bethany getting primed up for next weeks home game at against Prez?
TMC heading into "wonder" land at Cameron. Carlisle already licking his chops to pop someone.
Frostburg heading to Waynesburg to play flatless Jacket team sufferring from loss last week to Prez.
Looking ahead.....the CMU/Thiel game should be a good one. CMU just lovs to run ball with alot of complicated formations and motions which makes their team tough to defend.

Bob.Gregg · November 01, 2006, 12:54:13 PM

Quote from: AC24#724 on November 01, 2006, 12:37:07 PM
...Abels: Waynesburg College Records
Career Rushing
Career Scoring
Career TD's

Those are all correct, AC.

And so is this:

As a W&J running back, Abels would have established the following career records:

1. No.
2. ah, No.
3. No, again.

What sad is that YOU'VE chosen to turn this into a Abels vs. Mendel thing.

They are both very good running backs. Abels has had a great career, a record-setting career at Waynesburg. Mendel is having a great season after waiting in line behind Zits at W&J.

Mendel has had better numbers, head-to-head, in the games between the two schools over these last three years.

That's where I got in. That's where it stands.

By the way, AC, did you ever get one of your buddies to turn the VCR on for you?

AC24#724 · November 01, 2006, 02:32:58 PM

Incorrect Bob....I have not chosen this to be a Mendel/Abels things...if you look back at all my emails...this was started by another poster, not AC. and when I have some time I will look back and see who first mentioned the comparison. it surely wasn't me .I just had to share my point of view being a Jacket fan for the last 5-6 years and when I can get a chance to get to a game I usually see the offensive talent show what each player brings to the table, whether it be #7 the last several years or #1 and #6 last several years, #15 the year before .but those STATS are factual.
Who knows....Maybe it was all started with Coach Sirianni of Prez clearly in Observer Reporter pointing out last year that Abels is Best Back in Conf head and shoulder's and this year support's his own back being biased of course like he states in another article I had read this past week. And.....no' to the VCR tape on film........I couldn't see the play well enough , I sent it down to the TMC Coach so he could see what he is in store for this week. told em also to watch the zebra's ...the run more than in a "pack" at Cameron.
Week # 8 in the books moving onward to week #9
Hey, everyone has their own opinion...Interesting enough on pregame show this past week for Big Game did Coach S commend both Backs at Waynesburg Daniels and Abels at being real good backs that to of seem to of been around the last 10 years. Nice comments to two players that know how to compliment each other on playing field. That's special.

SaintsFAN · November 01, 2006, 02:33:06 PM

Quote from: denfd on November 01, 2006, 08:43:00 AM
To The Minn. Vikings Coaching Staff,

Good News!! Plans are now in preparation to send all NFL Refs to re-education camps to provide them with sensitivity training in dealing with whiners. Inferior teams must be aided in their up hill battles.

Thats great news. We'll tell our players when they get back from the 2006 Boat Trip.

Bob.Gregg · November 01, 2006, 03:01:00 PM

Onward it is then!

Wes Mantooth · November 01, 2006, 04:01:19 PM

I started the whole Mendel/Abels comparison. My judgement was based on what i have witnessed first hand. This year Mendel is the better back. That being said the final point is BOTH ARE GREAT BACKS AND HAD GREAT CAREERS. Abels has the stats Mendel has less stats but walks out with 3 of 4 PAC championships and three playoff trips.

On to this weekend

W&J is going to have another tough one with TMC coming to town. My statement earlier with the 3 of 4 is based on them winning this game. I am confident they will handle TMC but stranger things have happened. TMC has a good short passing game and that concerns me as people have had success with thaton the prez. I think the Prez will move the ball on Carlisle & co as there offense has a dual pass run threat. Predictions tomm.