FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[the_great]

 

If W&J corner Cory Walsh wants to move into the elite of DBs in the country, he will need to seriously consider wearing gloves.  That is the key.  He is already the best corner in the PAC, with Mullen close behind.  Willis is underachieving and will not be able to keep up with the Prez receivers for the 2nd year in a row. 

I have something to say about that right there...  Willis is not seeing the balls that he seen last year... Teams are goin away from him and going the other way.. Willis face one of the top WR from HUNTINGDON (AL) Colson, Mark which i believe is better than any WR in the PAC.  Willis held him to 67 yards which half of them came on screens. Willis had 6 tkls 3 pass brk ups.. he is by far the most fear CB in the PAC..  Most team in that PAC will not pass his way.. Agains Hanover he was move around to face one of there best WR Bobby Smarts which Willis again held him in check, by doin so Willis was moved inside to cover the slot WR..  Willis also held FSU leading WR/TE Fred Howze to one catch.. While pickin one off and RT a punt for the game winning TD.. So by far I dont believe that any other CB in the PAC is being asked to do some of the things that Willis is being ask.. And Its nothing that he can do if teams dont want to throw the ball his way... Plus W&J only threw one pass his way and he broke it up so by far he is one of the best CB in the PAC and could Start on any team in the PAC...  I cant say that Cory Walsh has shut down anyone like that.. NOT AT ALL..

[South Willy]

Great...

Where was your star CB Willis when a freshman Bison WR Cruse went 8 catches for 97 yds and 2 scores to upset TMC.

[BDTartan]

Yes, Cruse is gifted and will turn out to be something special for the Bisons.  Not sure about his stats at CMU but I was there and he looked good to me.

[SaintsFAN]

Great...

Where was your star CB Willis when a freshman Bison WR Cruse went 8 catches for 97 yds and 2 scores to upset TMC.

To All...

You guys are eally going to town today with all these stats and opinions. Can anyone tell me how BC gets blown out by Westminster then travels to TMC and upsets them 21-17. Strange season!!!

Switching fron RBs to Wrs, I think BC has the two best receivers in the PAC with Parker breaking all the records which Cruse will the chasing for the next four years. Any thoughts.

Willy,

Come on Willy....thats a loaded question.  You can't take away anything from Willis based on that.  There is as you say two great WR at Bethany...Parker and Cruse right?  I'm sure that Willis can only match up against one of them....judging by the stats you cite, I'd say he had to man up Parker. 

Do you honestly think that any of the schools had a chance to put him on the field for their team that they wouldn't do it?

[South Willy]

SaintsFAN...

I agree totally that he can only man up on one WR but Cruse went for 97 yds and the Bison through for 231 yds on the day. Seemed like everyone was open in the second half. I really can't believe BC beat TMC.

Bison have absolutely no consistency on defense. One week they can play with a solid team like TMC and the next will give up 40-45 points to Westminster or Muskingum. Offense is getting betetr but way to young to match up against CMU or W & J next week.

[SaintsFAN]

Willy,

You never know....thats why they play the game.  Its very good for the conference that Bethany is competitive.  I think we can all agree that the PAC is better for having more competition in it now that Bethany is on the rise, and other schools have posted winning seasons. 

Hopefully its enough that it has W&J poised for a deep run in the playoffs this year..

[the_great]

Great...

Where was your star CB Willis when a freshman Bison WR Cruse went 8 catches for 97 yds and 2 scores to upset TMC.

Mr. South Willy

Well as for BC beating TMC they were lookin ahead for W&J and took them as a walk over team.. that was TMC fault at hand.. We all know that BC is no where near as good a TMC..  As for the freshman having them catches: On film he was never a threat so Y would Willis cover him??  Answer that for me.. For two BC had no WR that were worth Willis following around the whole game not even the #12 kid parker i think his name is.. TMC felt like there DB could match up with all them guys and did that Freshman catch any of them passes on Willis i dont think so i believe that where all across the middle of the field.. You so you still havent answer the question y does every team in the PAC throw away from Willis..

Mr. South Willy

[EC Warrior]

If teams are so afraid of Willis, then can you explain to me why he is the 2nd leading tackler out of the TMC DBs and first among corners?  He has 21 solo tackles compared to Toone's 8 and has only 4 PBUs.  Against W&J, Willis was seldom on McCafferty's side, instead he was lined up on the weak side receiver, who from what I can see, has been a decoy this year.  Please explain to me how such an impact player is making no impact at all.  Walsh is a much better tackler than Willis and plays way more disciplined, therefore I would trust him more in a matchup situation.

[Wes Mantooth]

A few thoughts from this past weekends game in Washington. W&J clearly came out flat in this game. They did not play with much enthusiasm throughout. 21-12 makes the game sound close but it was not even close at all. I do not recall W&J ever throwing away from Willis in the game either. No doubt he is a good corner but Swallow was hitting reciever after reciever for completions. If Swallow didnt overthrow a ball to Mcafferty he had Willis beat by 10 yards on a hitch and go that would have been a 90 yard TD. Carlisle had his beehind handed to him by Pete Briggs in the flats on a pass play as well. Also witnessed Mendel running through a few of his tackles clearly not his best game. He must have taken out his frustration by throwing Mendel to the ground after the whistle had blown. First time i have witnessed TMC play and they looked like a middle of the road PAC team at this time as they clearly did not have the athletes to compete with the athletes that are at Thiel and W&J. Stellman is a good QB and him getting hurt changed the game. EC and Ernie i think Walsh just needs to spat his shoes and he would be complete but the arm band was a nice change up for him. Coach Jay Ernst did a nice job as the get back coach keep it up.

[the_great]

Well first of all Willis & Toone are two different players and they felt as if W&J WR were no where as good as they were last year and you know it to.. Toone did a good job on #24 he Was on top of every route with the exception of the one that he broke under because the ball look as if it was goin to fall.. W&J WR were not as fast as last year so there is not need to move Willis around..  Willis had come up and make more Tkls because of the Double teams that Mark is seeing this year..  Plus Toone sat out 2 game and played a half in a 3rd so please know the facts before you ask questions like that.... O and one other thing when Willis was on 24 side the ball was knock down... Willis is a physical CB so of course he will come up to try and get a pic or a pass break up that is the type of D that TMC runs...  I just see now that Willis is trying to break on any pass so he can get his pic and I can see that its a frustrated year for him and Mark to not be able to help the team like they want.. so thats why he is the best returner on the team he wants the ball and he is a play maker when every u get done... not to take anything away from Walsh Maybe if Willis had some help on the other side then team will have to try him  more have anyone ever thought of that???  Toone is a ok player but he gets scored on a lot and i seen a few games where it has happen.. 

[the_great]

If teams are so afraid of Willis, then can you explain to me why he is the 2nd leading tackler out of the TMC DBs and first among corners?  He has 21 solo tackles compared to Toone's 8 and has only 4 PBUs.  Against W&J, Willis was seldom on McCafferty's side, instead he was lined up on the weak side receiver, who from what I can see, has been a decoy this year.  Please explain to me how such an impact player is making no impact at all.  Walsh is a much better tackler than Willis and plays way more disciplined, therefore I would trust him more in a matchup situation.

Well first of all Willis & Toone are two different players and they felt as if W&J WR were no where as good as they were last year and you know it to.. Toone did a good job on #24 he Was on top of every route with the exception of the one that he broke under because the ball look as if it was goin to fall.. W&J WR were not as fast as last year so there is not need to move Willis around..  Willis had come up and make more Tkls because of the Double teams that Mark is seeing this year..  Plus Toone sat out 2 game and played a half in a 3rd so please know the facts before you ask questions like that.... O and one other thing when Willis was on 24 side the ball was knock down... Willis is a physical CB so of course he will come up to try and get a pic or a pass break up that is the type of D that TMC runs...  I just see now that Willis is trying to break on any pass so he can get his pic and I can see that its a frustrated year for him and Mark to not be able to help the team like they want.. so thats why he is the best returner on the team he wants the ball and he is a play maker when every u get done... not to take anything away from Walsh Maybe if Willis had some help on the other side then team will have to try him  more have anyone ever thought of that???  Toone is a ok player but he gets scored on a lot and i seen a few games where it has happen.. 

[oldtimer4774]

Talkin about the best Corner in the PAC.........quietly but surely it is Steve Boyle from Thiel

PASSES DEFENDED    Team Cl  G Brup  Int Total Avg/G
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1. Steve Boyle.... THI  SR  9   10    5    15  1.67
2. C. Schwamberger GRO  SR  9    8    4    12  1.33
3. Ryan Mullen.... W&J  JR  9    5    3     8  0.89
    Cory Walsh..... W&J  SR  9    6    2     8  0.89
5. Anthony Taylor. WAY  SR  9    2    5     7  0.78
    Aaron Bane..... W&J  SR  9    6    1     7  0.78
7. R.J. Faldowski. BET  JR  8    2    4     6  0.75
8. Mike Baker..... GRO  SO  7    3    2     5  0.71
9. Chris Willis... TMC  SR  9    4    2     6  0.67
    A. Quarterman.. THI  JR  9    5    1     6  0.67


INTERCEPTIONS      Team Cl  G  Int  Yds TD Int/G Long
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1. Anthony Taylor. WAY  SR  9    5  120  0  0.56   53
    Steve Boyle.... THI  SR  9    5   32  1  0.56   32
3. R.J. Faldowski. BET  JR  8    4   57  0  0.50   25
4. C. Schwamberger GRO  SR  9    4   58  0  0.44   58
5. Nick Cherish... W&J  SR  9    3   65  0  0.33   39
    Jake Wilczynski WES  SO  9    3   39  0  0.33   21
    Ryan Mullen.... W&J  JR  9    3   25  0  0.33   15
8. Mike Baker..... GRO  SO  7    2    0  0  0.29    0
9. Terence Toone.. TMC  JR  8    2   48  0  0.25   28
10.Brandon Zeman.. BET  SO  9    2   90  2  0.22   55

[EC Warrior]

How does Carlisle getting double teamed have anything to do with Willis making tackles?  And if you're TMC defensive coaches, then wouldn't you put Willis on 24 not 88.  W&J receivers are not as talented as last years like you said, and #24 is clearly the top threat, so Willis should have been on him.  You said he was matched up last year, who was he matched up on?? If any CB is to match up on a W&J receiver, then this is the year to do it, not last year.  There was too much talent at the position for anyone to match up.
You also said that he is breaking up and trying to break up every pass, so then why does he have only 4 breakups? I am not sure what you were trying to say there.  And even if Toone has sat out a few games, 21-8 is still a big difference.  If you say teams are trying to avoid Willis so much, then Toone would have way more tackles.  
Willis was invisible Saturday, not because W&J avoided going to him.  He was just another body out there.  Carlisle was the only player to stand out on the D, which is fine, you need role players as well.  But I wouldn't expect Willis to be a role player, he should be a star along with Carlisle.

[the_great]

How does Carlisle getting double teamed have anything to do with Willis making tackles?  And if you're TMC defensive coaches, then wouldn't you put Willis on 24 not 88.  W&J receivers are not as talented as last years like you said, and #24 is clearly the top threat, so Willis should have been on him.  You said he was matched up last year, who was he matched up on?? If any CB is to match up on a W&J receiver, then this is the year to do it, not last year.  There was too much talent at the position for anyone to match up.
You also said that he is breaking up and trying to break up every pass, so then why does he have only 4 breakups? I am not sure what you were trying to say there.  And even if Toone has sat out a few games, 21-8 is still a big difference.  If you say teams are trying to avoid Willis so much, then Toone would have way more tackles.  
Willis was invisible Saturday, not because W&J avoided going to him.  He was just another body out there.  Carlisle was the only player to stand out on the D, which is fine, you need role players as well.  But I wouldn't expect Willis to be a role player, he should be a star along with Carlisle.

Well first of all Toone is not makin Tkl as u can see if you did watch the game u seen the SS comming down to make them Tkls and if you know D then you will also know that some times when ur in  a coverage the LBs will have to get underneath some of them routes so Willis comes up and make Tkls but im not goin to get in do a debate about this like "oldtimer4774" said (Talkin about the best Corner in the PAC.........quietly but surely it is Steve Boyle from Thiel) so thats is that i was just tryin to make a point that Willis is not seeing passes like he did last year and teams are sayin that they will throw on the other side rather than throw to Wilis side.. He is 6'2 very physical and runs fast so i just think that any coach in the PAC would make him a Starter on any of there teams..  The point about Mark is that last year Willis didnt have a chance to make a tkl cuz Mark would aready make them but now that he is gettin Double team Willis is able to come up and make that tkl... but I am going to let it go because if you seen Willis was hurt with a hamy injury since FSU which he didnt play after that int he got and he didnt finsh the hunting game either...
but he bit on the hich and go which was smart by there coach cuz he is a physical CB so it was smart to do that.. but #24 didnt catch the ball so really dont matter but the pass that was thrown he had him cover good..  I have said what i had to say about that and in the end W&J is goin to the playoffs so I wish all the luck to them..

[South Willy]

Great...

Interesting, BC receivers are 1st & 3rd in the PAC in yardage and TD's but they aren't worth Willis's time. Cruse at 6'3" and 200 will match physical with any db and few are faster. His 45yard TD at TMC first left a db stuck in his tracks and then trailing badly to the endzone. Not sure which BD???

I'm not up to date on most PAC players but Waynesburg secondary was the toughest on BC.