FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

Cleveland Cartel · November 08, 2006, 08:39:20 AM

S.W.

I did look through your roster and see a ton of freshmen and sophmores and only about 10 seniors mainly on the defensive side of the ball. and that wont hurt you too much as long as you have a solid backups and guys learning the system. As opposed to on the offensive side of the ball with new guys playing it normally takes a year or two before they mesh and start executing as a team. Plugging in new guys on defense is can be less painful than on offense.

The weather should be fairly nice for the game this weekend so all you will need is a sweatshirt and maybe a light jacket.

Floridians!

SaintsFAN · November 08, 2006, 01:16:07 PM

willy,

Its going to be tougher this week.....Stellman is out. Broken Leg suffered against W&J when the Saints were up 12-0, tough blow. Freshman QB in... but it is a big rivalry....and we owe those guys.

We'll see.

and by the way, naming the kid who is responsible for breaking Stellman's leg as "defensive player of the week" is childish and in poor taste. Period.

Bob.Gregg · November 08, 2006, 01:54:25 PM

Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 08, 2006, 01:16:07 PM
...and by the way, naming the kid who is responsible for breaking Stellman's leg as "defensive player of the week" is childish and in poor taste. Period.

First of all, Saints never led 12-0. 6-0, then 6-7, 6-14, 6-21, 12-21.

Secondly, the PAC Defensive Player of the Week was Aaron Bane.

He's nowhere around Stellman when his leg got caught up underneath him.

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Taslov's on his own butt. Gitlitz coming from left of photo. Sutphin from behind Taslov.

Wes Mantooth · November 08, 2006, 02:04:50 PM

Saints last i recall TMC was never up 12-0. They were down 7-6 when Stellmen was hurt and if you want to talk about classless that was TMC with Carlisle throwing Mendel to the ground when the play was over and constant grabbing and poking in piles. One moment brought to the forefront by Mcafferty to the ref about quit sticking your fingers(you finish the rest). Anyway the game is over and Stellman getting hurt was no doubt a turning point. The back up QB is by far the biggest QB in D3 looks like Jared Lorenzen who used to play for Kentucky. He ran over a couple people a few times but couldnt throw the ball a lick. Predictions coming up tommorrow.

South Willy · November 08, 2006, 03:18:28 PM

To All...

BC also lost their strting QB in the third qtr against CMU but we were never in the game. Very tough defense at CMU and I'm interested in what everyone thinks about the possible match-up between W & J/CMU. W & J is traditionally the stronger program but CMU this year looks to make it a very competitive game.

EC Warrior · November 08, 2006, 03:49:29 PM

Saintsfan,
I didn't mean it like that. I only meant that that was a very big play in the game, maybe even a turning point, as clearly W&J was having difficulties with Stellman. I certainly wish him the best and a speedy recovery.

SaintsFAN · November 08, 2006, 04:06:54 PM

EC,

Cool. Just wanted to get that out there. From what I understand, its pretty much the same injury that Berkley sustained last year. You can admit that you can't tell in what context to take things on here....

SaintsFAN · November 08, 2006, 04:11:44 PM

Wes,

Not touching that one....TMC is not a dirty team. This would be the first accustation of dirty play..

Re: QB

He's a biggun....and yes he ran. He needs to get his legs under him though, so he can throw the ball this week. Another game against a playoff team. We'd love to spoil their season. Thing is that TMC hung with W&J without Stellman....maybe that will build their confidence and some momentum to beat Mount St. Joe. We know who the tougher team is..

Yes, losing Stellman really hurt us in the President's game. But you can't pin hopes on one player.

Bob,

Score or no score. I think it hurt, but the rest of the team had to step up and didn't. Plain and simple...

I was NOT talking about the PAC naming him player of the game. I was talking about another poster.

Wes Mantooth · November 08, 2006, 04:38:33 PM

I wouldnt say they hung with them as i said before the game was a lot worse than the score played out. W&J played flat and still easily handled them. They couldve and should have passed all day on TMC as they were playing the run. Maybe it was the Mount connections between the coaches i dont know but the second half it seemed like he knew the game was won and backed off on the play calling either way a wins a win. Stellman and Collier are a good duo to build a offense around and i think the offense will be a key for them in future after losing Carlisle and Willis.

SaintsFAN · November 08, 2006, 04:46:53 PM

Wes,

You can ALWAYS talk about the winning team being able to score more points than what they did. I don't think they were purposely not scoring because of the Mount Union connection (see ONU/MtU this year), but maybe they WERE holding back some. Last week is one of the weeks that their first round opponent would see a tape of in a trade. I think this would be an explanation if you think W&J was holding back.

Or maybe because of TMC's record (losing to Bethany) they did look past the Saints. Either way, I think the Saints still played hard, and thats all you can ask of a team to do. Especially when they have so much hope in the beginning, only to be dealt a devestating blow by losing Stellman like that. Perhaps his injury was gruesome enough for both teams to have it in the back of their mind?

I just don't think it was the MtU connection.

Wes Mantooth · November 08, 2006, 06:27:20 PM

TMC def played hard no question about that. W&J sure did not they seemed flat the whole game. Probably left a lot on the field the week before against Waynesburg. They should easily handle Bethany this week and on to the playoffs with who knows who. W&J cannot afford to play like they did this past week or they will be one and done for the second straight season.

BDTartan · November 08, 2006, 09:25:56 PM

Well, Daily Dose is projecting W&J making the short drive to Gesling in the first-round, barring either team losing this weekend. I would love to see that game happen. Former rivals and a playoff atmosphere. If it happens, I hope its a fair-fought battle between two capable teams. CMU may have to ride its defense, but that's how they won in St. Louis so my guess is that this would be a pretty good game.

Cleveland Cartel · November 09, 2006, 08:23:39 AM

BDTARTAN,

Do not count your chickens before they hatch.

Tomcats are going to be pulling together to have a above 500 season, and looking to pull the upset. One thing is for sure CMU better be ready to play a physical game, because that is how Thiel plays full tilt. If they don't and come out soft they will be out of the game before they know what hit them.

Looking forward to predictions....

oldtimer4774 · November 09, 2006, 08:52:25 AM

CC,

Even if Thiel wins CMU still makes the playoffs, although I would think they might lose home field advantage to W&J if both are 9-1?

Bob.Gregg · November 09, 2006, 09:26:44 AM

...timer,

While I BELIEVE what you write is true, I'm not betting on it.

CMU has not ONE quality win this season.

10-0 gets you in. Period.

9-1 without a quality win certainly leaves the committee some wiggle room.

Not, mind you, that the Presidents' beaten opponents have exactly set the world on fire.