FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

Bureau chief · November 16, 2006, 03:49:12 PM

Please, we have read enough about the Mendel/Abels comparisons. Let's not start with the kickers. Aren't there more pressing matters to consider, like this weekend's playoff game!!!

cnusfinest54 · November 17, 2006, 01:34:18 AM

I might be late but let me just set the record straight. In both 2002 and 2004 W&J benefited from the fact that CNU's offense could not score against a suspect defense. In both seasons the very next week the same W&J defense gave up 40 plus points in loss. Especially in 2004 24 points should have been a blowout win for the Captains but once again the Captains let an even more suspect defense shut them down. 1st round BC 48 W&J 55 2nd round CNU 14- W&J 24 3rd round UMHB 52-W&J 16. So don't act like those W&J teams were so much more dominant than CNU's teams. If CNU offense can get their act together and at least score the playoff average a W&J defense gives up we will be just fine.

You play the hand you are dealt but CNU has never had the luxury of fielding a dominant offensive team in the post season. This years offense might have the most balance of the previous 2 teams W&J has faced, so Im hoping they take advantage of the mighty presidents.

Bob.Gregg · November 17, 2006, 07:47:00 AM

Quote from: cnusfinest54 on November 17, 2006, 01:34:18 AM
...W&J benefited from the fact that CNU's offense could not score against a suspect defense.

The CNU offense of '02 & '04 apparently was significantly more "suspect" than the W&J defense.

Quote from: cnusfinest54 on November 17, 2006, 01:34:18 AM
...So don't act like those W&J teams were so much more dominant than CNU's teams.

CNU didn't score in the second half of either game. How much MORE dominant can one team be than the other?

Quote from: cnusfinest54 on November 17, 2006, 01:34:18 AM
If CNU offense can get their act together and at least score the playoff average a W&J defense gives up we will be just fine.

Perhaps, the other teams W&J played those seasons were better teams than CNU...novel idea, huh?

Quote from: cnusfinest54 on November 17, 2006, 01:34:18 AM
...This years offense might have the most balance of the previous 2 teams W&J has faced, so Im hoping they take advantage of the mighty Presidents.

The CNU offense does appear to have a nice balance, though the TD/INT ratio leaves a little to be desired....small detail perhaps.
This W&J defense, overall, is not the best the Captains playoff teams will have faced. But they'll show up in Newport News on Saturday.

Perhaps CNU will score 50 on the "suspect" W&J defense, like W&J's other opponents in '02 & '04. Perhaps they won't.

Perhaps CNU unmentioned defense will hold the Presidents down. Perhaps they won't.

SaintsFAN · November 17, 2006, 10:40:35 AM

W&J 23
CNU 13

Get one more for the PAC, Presidents.

Wes Mantooth · November 17, 2006, 11:52:15 AM

Saints Fan nice predition. I agree 21-10 W&J over CNU. To CNU85 If i am not mistaken as well those W&J defenses gave up 50 points to Texas teams that went to the Stagg Bowl and would have dropped a quick 50 on CNU as well. Also the Bridgewater 04 team had a very good offense and overall seemed like a better team than CNU even though CNU did beat them that year. Whomever wins the CNU W&J game is going to have a tough go around in Texas. Yes CNU beat UMHB in the regular season but i believe that they will not have the same success in the playoffs provided each of those teams win this weekend.

Bob.Gregg · November 17, 2006, 12:02:34 PM

I can't see Presidents D holding CNU to under 2 tds. Just can't see it.

The Red & Black are going to have to be nearly flawless offensively Saturday.

Gotta get touchdowns when they're available. Gotta hold the ball.

Kick cover unit is going to have plenty of pressure with Captains' speed.

Zach's gotta punt like he did early, not like he has lately.

Presidents win, but I'm thinking 24-21, something like that.

CNU85 · November 17, 2006, 12:08:36 PM

Wes....I didn't say anything about points being scored or whatver...that was the other CNU guy.

Bob - I agree with what you said in last post.....BUT.....when we beat Averett we shut them down in the second half (shutout) and I mentioned the word dominated......but got destroyed on the boards....I do think if you shutout someone, that's dominating...but others don't agree with me.

I also think that CNU's offense must have been suspect in 02 or 04 or that the W&J D maybe wasn't as suspect...either way we got the L and went home!!

Have a safe trip out here tomorrow!!!

Bob.Gregg · November 17, 2006, 12:19:06 PM

85, thanks for the safe-travel note. We're doing a High School District semfinal tonight, then heading out. I'm driving as far as I can get tonight.

All shutouts aren't dominating, as you well know. The one year, the Presidents DOMINATED CNU in the second half. The other they just kept them off the scoreboard.

Popup around the press box tomorrow (if you can) and intro yourself.

I'll be the guy with the olive green pants and the red plaid shirt (I know, should save the tartan look for the Tartans, but I only have so many presentable outfits to wear in public--wife picked this one)...

denfd · November 17, 2006, 12:34:37 PM

W&J 38
CNU 28

Swallow brings his best game.

Llamaguy · November 17, 2006, 02:34:47 PM

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 17, 2006, 12:19:06 PM
85, thanks for the safe-travel note. We're doing a High School District semfinal tonight, then heading out. I'm driving as far as I can get tonight.

All shutouts aren't dominating, as you well know. The one year, the Presidents DOMINATED CNU in the second half. The other they just kept them off the scoreboard.

Popup around the press box tomorrow (if you can) and intro yourself.

I'll be the guy with the olive green pants and the red plaid shirt (I know, should save the tartan look for the Tartans, but I only have so many presentable outfits to wear in public--wife picked this one)...

Hey Bob,

If you get a chance and aren't too busy setting up in the morning stop by and say hey at the tailgate. Stone Station is going on the road with the help of CNU85. We should be near the field in a Grey Expedition with Stone Station banner hanging out the back. From what I here so far, Kid, 85, WcLegacy and a few other posters will be present. We should be in place by 10:15am. I'll have a brat or dog waiting if interested.

Safe Travels!

South Willy · November 17, 2006, 03:40:19 PM

Good Luck to both W & J and CMU

W & J...28
CNU.....24

I agree, Swallow will be the difference.

CMU...... .21
Millsaps..10

CMU defense is the real deal!!!!

OSU...31
Mich...28

Wes Mantooth · November 17, 2006, 04:09:22 PM

CNU 85 i apologize for throwing you in on that statement earlier you were not the poster of that message. Wish i could come to virginia as it is probably a lot warmer there than here in Northwest PA where it is snowing.

I also would like to throw a couple of other predictions in as well like South.

Millsaps - 28 CMU-24

I think this will be a shootout. I like Millsaps for the fact that they beat texas teams and have a wide open passing attack. I cant believe they have that type of offense when Dubose is the head coach as Alabama when he was there was pretty run oriented. I think CMU will have success as they have a potent run game out of the wing T which is hard to defend.

Michigan- 17 @ OSU-14

I like Big Blue with the run game and the D in this one. I think they have the D to keep Troy Smith in check. Smith struggled against a fast and agressive Penn State D early in the year and threw a couple of picks.

Good Luck to all Playoffs participants

Go W&J

SaintsFAN · November 17, 2006, 07:17:39 PM

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 17, 2006, 12:02:34 PM
I can't see Presidents D holding CNU to under 2 tds. Just can't see it.

The Red & Black are going to have to be nearly flawless offensively Saturday.

Gotta get touchdowns when they're available. Gotta hold the ball.

Kick cover unit is going to have plenty of pressure with Captains' speed.

Zach's gotta punt like he did early, not like he has lately.

Presidents win, but I'm thinking 24-21, something like that.

Bob, my score prediction is based on CNU scoring two TD's and having a PAT blocked but a big ugly from W&J.

CNU85 · November 17, 2006, 10:12:51 PM

Yeah Bob,

Stop by the Bridgewater Stone Station party!! They have good food and beer!!! Nice guys, too! I feel honored to be invited to partake with those guys!! If you can't mak it...push Tommasion out of the way and stick your head out.....I'll be in the second to last row just under the press box...50 yard line!

Pat Coleman - thanks for this site!! I've met some great people....the BC guys, JT from Rowan...Legacy, even a few CNU folks I wouldn't normally have met...ran into Captj tonight at the hoops game and Goose.....

You can never meet too many good people! This site made it happen!

cnusfinest54 · November 18, 2006, 12:25:32 AM

Bob Gregg by all means W&J won both playoff games. But you just can't simply say that they dominated CNU in both games. Find me a CNU fan that will use the word dominant and CNU offense in the same sentence. So saying that they shut CNU out in the 2nd half is kind of a weak point. But oh well the past is the past but all I am saying is that the Presidents better respect the future.

Not sure what the score will be but CNU will come out on top.