FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[SaintsFAN]

Wes,

I know it seems that way but they really have two good freshman QB's in Zerhusen and Gauger.  Both are above average runners for the Saints. .

Zerhusen has good size and throws the ball well. . . he played behind the coach's son at McNick HS here in Cincinnati (produced a few Division 1 QB's), so he only got to start his senior season.  He's come on in the past few weeks and is showing signs of "getting it".

Gauger, who started the season as starter after Stellman went down in Pre-season practice, is a little bit taller and lanky kid.  I'm not sure about his HS exploits just outside of Indianapolis at Avon HS.  He's capable of leading the team also.

Both QB are benefitting from having Coach Case as their QB's coach.  JP, as we call him, knows his stuff (so to speak).  He coached the WR's during the 1998 season and lent a hand to us QBs.  He communicates well with the guys and they've responded, it seems. 

[OLine Coach]

Oline welcome aboard its amazing when a team goes 6-0 to start a season the fans come out. I bet no one is calling for Shepas' head now after the Hot start. Should be a big showdown in the burg in two weeks.   I would love to go to the WU v. WJ game but prior committments have me tied up that day.

Wes - you called me out...but you are right.  I will admit though my interest increases as the wins increase.  I'll also admit that I was a little disappointed when Hand left and went to Westminnie.  I'd heard good things about Shep, but the proof is in the wins.  Hopefully he can keep it going now that he has something started. 

SaintsFan - Didn't know there were coaches on here.  Who is that dumb to jump in here as a coach of one of the teams being discussed???  What is there to gain?

[PittTBCW]

Oline,

Welcome! When the team wins it does create action. Take Thiel two years ago when they were rolling. Alot of people came out. I think the board is down since the last few years. Hopefully the board can become more active!

Thiel seems to be hot or cold. They could play well against Waynesburg as they are typically good against the run. Waynesburg is a very hard place to play. They will have the homefield advantage for sure. I think if Thiel can limit the turnovers and stop the run they have a shot. I think Heller will be a handful but I have faith in the Tomcats.

Wes,

You are correct. Leip is a great coach and even a better person. He surrounds himself with quality coaches and recruits not only talent but character. I think he has a good equation going on up in Greenville that will keep the Tomcats competitive for years. The college administration also backs Coach Leip and the football program which makes like easier.

Matthews and McCafferty are great WR's I have not seen all of the WR's at W&J thats why I was seeking a W&J perspective. Obviously Krepps and Fry were pretty good as well.

Its funny how when a team has a bad year that they call for the Coach. Most teams (except W&J) will have ups and downs. Its not always the coach sometimes injuries or just graduation and lack of experience. Shepas is a good fit down there.

[OLine Coach]

Pitt -
What kind of  offfense is TC running?  They still running the option?? 

[PittTBCW]

Pitt -
What kind of  offfense is TC running?  They still running the option?? 

I only saw them play vs W&J. No longer the option. They mix it up between shotgun and I formation.

[skunks_sidekick]

Hello All You PAC ers..

As a MUC fan it's always great to see "one of our own" doing so well.  Kudos to Sirianni and his guys playing at a high level to this point of the season. 

As someone who observed Shepas while he coached at Massillon, I can tell you he certainly wore out his welcome with just about everyone here in Stark County, OH.  It seems he is a good X's and O's guy, and does well with game day/week motivation, but his ethics, integrity, and honesty would be something I would question, and not be totally comfortable with. 

Having said that, I am not a Waynesburg player, student, alum, or fan....so I guess you can take that with a grain of salt!   

[OLine Coach]

A guy I coach with knows Shep from his days as head coach at Seneca Valley.  He had nothing but good things to say about him when he was hired.  I introduced myself to Shepas when he came to one of our playoff games.  He didn't exactly seem personable - but then again he gets paid to win games not be nice to alumni that played for Waynesburg...or maybe that is part of his job description???

Anyways - good to hear that the Tomcats mix it up a little bit.  I'm looking forward to seeing some good balanced offensive attacks on Saturday.

[SaintsFAN]

You'd think he embrace some of the alumni though. . .

I just know that when we've hired coaches, they've wanted to meet and greet alumni. . .especially Hilvert.

[EC Warrior]

Pat how come I didn't get a nice welcome like OLcoach did?

[Pat Coleman]

I didn't know you were a first-time poster when you first posted.

[PittTBCW]

Prediction Time:

Saturday, October 20

Saint Vincent at Case Western Reserve – 1 p.m.
SVC visits Ohio on Saturday to face CWR. SVC looks for thier first win vs an undefeated Case team that has been scoring quite efficiently. Case is fresh off a win in OT vs CMU. SVC gets a break from PAC action this week but its not easy.

Case 42 SVC 14


Thiel at Waynesburg* - 1:30 p.m.

The Tomcats visit Wiley Stadium in Greene County this week as they look to get back on the winning track vs an undefeated Yellow Jacket team led by the freshman sensation Heller. Minton and Hess will look to run the ball on the stingy defense while the Darkside will look to stop the leading rusher in the PAC. Turnovers cost the Tomcats last week and if they turn the ball over this week they will not be happy with the results. Last year Waynesburg shocked Thiel at home and I am looking for the Tomcats to seek revenge.

Thiel 21 Waynesburg 17

Washington & Jefferson at Grove City* – 1:30 p.m.

W&J takes the trip up 79 to visit the Wolverines where they have not played their best football in the past few years. Although they have won it has not been pretty. GCC won the Mercer Cup against Thiel last week and look to build on that momentum. Unfortunatly, they face the high powered offense of the Presidents led by qb Swallow. I don't see a let down by the men in black and red and I look for them to be focused and take care of buisness in preparation for the showdown with Waynesburg.

W&J 48 GCC 10


Westminster at Bethany* - 1:30 p.m.

Westminster looks to rebound after concecutive losses. Bethany looks to deep down and pull themselves from the wreckage of thier past two games where they have been dismantled. Bethany is playing at home but I like the Titans in this one.

Westminster 27 Bethany 21

Geneva at Thomas More*^ - 2:30 p.m.

Geneva had the week off last week while the Saints won on the road in Latrobe. Thomas More plays well at home but this week they are seeing a good team in the Golden Tornadoes. TMC's freshman are playing well and Collier is running the ball but not this week.

Geneva 28 TMC 10


GOOD LUCK TO ALL PAC TEAMS THIS WEEK!!!

GO TOMCATS!!!

[Bigernernwj69]

As a person who competed against shep I do not think he is a guy I would endorse as my head coach. I heard nothing but bad things about him, such as spying on teams when they are practicing and telling kids false information when he is recruiting them. He at one point last year after a lost to W&J challenged a parent (ABLES) to a fight after the game. Then got in Ables face telling him off about his father, this was all in front of the players and the fans at the game. Then when the JV's played the following day at the yellow jackets field, he almost got into a fist fight with Ables. I happened to be at both events and witnessed them both. I thought that was very poor decision on his part to belittle a player in front of his friends and family. Also picking a fight with a fan/father. The comment made by the father was Shep you are not cut out for college football, maybe you should stick to High school ball. That end raged Shep to the point of being restrained by fellow staff. Now as yellow jacket football in general. I think that it is a good school with some talent, but the talent is what keeps the team a float. He does not have to coach to much on offense when he is blowing teams out like St. Vincent, on the other side of the ball (defense) i have a lot of respect for the defensive coaches Especially Scott. They know how to handle the PAC teams offenses, but as Shep for a head coach, not so much. I think he has been blessed with good running backs. But when he faces stiffer competition and actually has to coach it will not be a pretty sight. He better hope his Defense pulls it out for him.

I hope this does not offend anybody but it is my opinion

[Bigernernwj69]

Now to things that matter the predictions.

First off the game of the week Thiel verses the Waynesburg college. I think that this will be the quickest game in PAC history with a combine 400 yards of rushing from both teams. The only problem is that the rushing yards will come mostly on the Thiel Side as Minton and company will rush for 280 yards of offense. As for the freshmen Sensation from WC he will get a little taste of a stingy defense. He will only have 68 yards on 22 carries. He will now know what it feels like to be a college rival game. The tomcats do not care for the yellow jackets and its the same on the other side. Final score will come as Minton breaks another long run of 50 yards to put the game away.
TC 28 WC 10

SV is starting to gain some confidence but it will not be enough to edge the boys of Case Western the Bearcats will have one special teams TD and a Defensive TD.
SV 17 CW 35


Now we going back to a PAC battle as the Bison hope to get back on track with a victory over the battered Titans. I think this will be a rebound game for the Bison's and they will roll on to a stunning victory as the passing game will take off. The bison's will have 322 yards of passing with 3 TDs and 1 interception, but it will be a first half ending interception.
BC 24 WEST 17

Thomas More will hope to get back on track, but it will be the wrong track since they are playing Geneva. Thomas More will be getting more and more experience as the young team will battle but in the end lose by only 1 TD
TMC 14 GENEVA 21

Now to my favorite game of the week the Presidents of W&J at Grove City College. The presidents have had some problems playing the Wolverines at the field. In the last two meetings at GCC the presidents has let Grove City break one school record. 4 Years ago it was the longest kickoff return for a TD and two years ago it was the longest Interception return. I look for this to be a first half blow out to a certain extent, but look for the Wolverines to start the Wolverine Shuffle in the second half to make it a good game. The Wolverines will use long counts and misdirection to throw off the young defense of the presidents. I think that is will only work for about two plays then the boys in the red and black will be doing the Crank that dance and supermaning in the endzone. In this prediction i will give two scores a first half score and a second half score. the special team will finally make a stand on kickoff since they will be doing a lot of it and i am sure that coach Goff pink slip a lot of kids after two weeks a failure. I look for a force fumble on kickoff and Blocked Punt.
W&J 31 GCC 7 W&J 38 GCC 21

[ADL70]

For anyone who wishes to follow the CWRU-SVC game there is live streaming video that will be archived later.

http://www.case.edu/athletics/varsity/broadcast/

[SaintsFAN]

sounds like a questionable fumble call that was reversed and called incomplete (after being returned to the Geneva 15) was the nail in the coffin for the Saints today....taking away a momentum swing.   Saints lose 10-9.