FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

Bigernernwj69 · October 23, 2007, 05:13:20 PM

Darkside,
why is it every time someone says something you got to run your mouth about arrogance. I think you should control yourself on making dumb comments. As a president i think when you start talking garbage you do not realize what you are saying, so i will let you feel like your comments are of some importance. Now as for Fast Willy he played a different positions then your boy chambers, How is he doing i heard that the crack business is booming. Isn't he in jail. But that is not a shot at all Tomcats so please do not get offended.

Now i think Bobby Swallow is a great QB he could be however replaced more so then Keller. Swallow is surrounded by talented players so Matthews, Jones and T-MAC could lift the burden off of the back up QB. Now as i say that i do not want Bobby out of the game. But as for the Jackets of Yellow i think if Keller is out Shep is on the sidelines fighting with another parent because he will not know how to deal with the pressure letting a RB dictate the game. For instance i do not see the yellow jackets compromising the run game with a legit passing game. Now this could be said for the Presidents.

Presidents
Athletics
Conference

remember the name and remember the greatness.

P.S. Darkside you started it. That's how us Arrogant boys do it, you mess with one you mess with us all.

Kiss the RINGS

Darkside90 · October 23, 2007, 07:02:50 PM

smallerner,
ARE U CRYING AGAIN. I was messing with ya boy "fast willy" didn't u see the smilly face. I thought it was cool for a little friendly trash talking. As for my Brandon Chambers comment, I was refering to the receiver Dback matchup GENIUS. As for your comment about him, that was totally uncalled for. I'm not sure what B. Chambers is doing with himself, but someone with a football career as insignificant as yours isn't even allowed to make reference to someone who had a career like his. I see why the former W&J players I talked to said your not even respected among them.

Wes Mantooth · October 23, 2007, 07:23:59 PM

Darkside

Some stats to back Wilmus on your comment on Chambers and i know your were messing with him. Just thought i would throw some stats out there for everyone.

2004

Wilmus 11 tackles 2 picks 1 sack
PAC defensive player of the week
Chambers 9-97 O td's

2005

Wilmus 11 tackles
Chambers 5-53 O TD's

Chambers never did anything against us and Wilmus was All Pac for two years and in 04 had six picks. He earned a right for a fan club.

W&J earns a right for arrogance as we win and go deep in the playoffs every year. Last i remember Thiel had a little arrogance as well which make the matchups fun. Thiel is no longer relevant so lets move on to Waynesburg.

Darkside dont take it personal that your team is in a funk they will snap out of it hopefully as Leip is too good of a coach to go into a slide and losing the QB this year hurt as Lascola is not a QB. If you would like to comment on my playing career that is fine as well i will tell you i was a track guy trying to play football. I may not have started but i learned enough about football to now coach it and talk about it. Give a shout to Rock Davis if you talk to him he was a cool cat who i competed with quite a bit in the Shot Put.

Darkside90 · October 23, 2007, 07:38:11 PM

Wes,

According to those stats, Chambers averaged about 7 receptions for basically 75 yds. For most receivers that would be considered good numbers against the "ALMIGHTY" presidents, but ur right for a dominant receiver like Chambers they were terrible numbers.
P.S
I meant to say Chambers vs. Wilmus, Cherish, Pilato, and whatever linebacker that had to widened out to help out the first three.

I kill myself

Darkside90 · October 23, 2007, 07:44:37 PM

And Wes,

Let's stay away from football accolades like All conference, Player of the Week, etc because I don't know many players Tomcat or President who have more accolades on the field than Chambers.
Actually, i do. Some guy named Kennard Davis.

Wes Mantooth · October 23, 2007, 07:57:45 PM

Darkside

Your right it was a pretty good secondary and for WR its about big plays and Td's his numbers werent bad but Wilmus stood out and dominated the 04 game so much so that your Tomcats copied the corner blitz we ran later in the year. Last i rememebr the only deep pass completed was a fake FG. I dont remeber us double or triple teaming any WR ever mainly cover 2 and 3. We however did gameplan for you so give yourself a pat on the back as we have already discussed that. You also say ALMIGHTY with some sarcasm as the Presidents are clearly not very impressive at all. Ill give you one President with more accolades than everyone FRANK PILATO who was a two time AFCA All American over your boy Kennard. I never said that Chambers was not very good either.

Oline get some of your Orange Yellow Jackets on here for some chatter on the game of the century this wkend.

Darkside and Pitt throw your two cents in on the Prez and Jackets game this weekend.

the_burghboy · October 23, 2007, 08:03:29 PM

I'm thinking of traveling to Waynesburg this weekend and must admit I haven't been there in nearly ten years for a game.

Are they playing on the same field with the train tracks running on the other end? Or have they move the field or upgraded it at all?

(Edit: Just looked on my own. Looks to be the same place, and was 'rededicated'. Good, because that place used to be a real dump)

Wes Mantooth · October 23, 2007, 08:07:37 PM

burghboy

Field Turf now but still one sided stands and train tracks running literally right behind the visitor bench with the Conductor usually running the train up and back the whole game with a Waynesburg flag out the side blowing his whistle.

the_burghboy · October 23, 2007, 08:09:03 PM

Thanks Wes, I just checked it. Looks much better.

Darkside90 · October 23, 2007, 08:16:43 PM

Wow, Pilato was a 2x All American. That's very impressive, but Kennard was a 4x All-American. Please don't try to compare any of your guys to Kennard, anyone but him. I don't want to put anyone to shame.

Prez over WC
I hear the RB over at Waynesburg is a good one, but so were Abels and Daniels. They'll probably put up some pts, but I don't think WC defense can contain Mr. Efficient Bobby Swallow. I can't remember if Czerwein is still around. If he is he may slow down the W&J Off., but the Prez still have too much firepower to lose.

Wes Mantooth · October 23, 2007, 08:42:12 PM

Darkside

4 times funny if you look at this link he was never an All American. I know there are about 40 All American teams but there is only one that counts and is recognized. Which is the AFCA All America team voted by the coaches. Frank was also a first team selection on the AP little All America team which is 1-AA II and III.
Frank Pilato 2003 and 2004 first team
Dave Hendricks was the only All American from Thiel in 2005.

Dont get me wrong Kennard was good but ill take Frank

See for yourself if the link works All Americans are listed by teams in PDF format.

http://www.afca.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=69273&SPID=7863&DB_OEM_ID=9300&ATCLID=289547

Czerwein is still there and i can see him causing some trouble also but i thought Lorber would cause some too and he did not. W&J will neautralize the pass rush with screens. They run a ton of screens this year which helps with Swallows completion percentage.

Big Ern any word on Mathews health is he ready to go this week.

Darkside90 · October 23, 2007, 09:14:48 PM

Wes,

Nice proproganda!! I can't fault you for taking Pilato he's one of your guys, and there is no doubt about what he did on the field. As for me, I'll take Kennard because when it comes to statistics (especially Int's, passes defended, and Int's returned for TD's) he is unmatched in the PAC, but most of all he's one of my guys. Let's be honest, neither of us can be objective on this one.

I'm interested to know what people think about the overall state of the PAC in 07, and what they expect in the years to come.

Pat Coleman · October 23, 2007, 09:36:49 PM

Quote from: Wes Mantooth on October 23, 2007, 08:42:12 PM
Darkside

4 times funny if you look at this link he was never an All American. I know there are about 40 All American teams but there is only one that counts and is recognized. Which is the AFCA All America team voted by the coaches. Frank was also a first team selection on the AP little All America team which is 1-AA II and III.
Frank Pilato 2003 and 2004 first team
Dave Hendricks was the only All American from Thiel in 2005.

Dont get me wrong Kennard was good but ill take Frank

See for yourself if the link works All Americans are listed by teams in PDF format.

http://www.afca.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=69273&SPID=7863&DB_OEM_ID=9300&ATCLID=289547

Czerwein is still there and i can see him causing some trouble also but i thought Lorber would cause some too and he did not. W&J will neautralize the pass rush with screens. They run a ton of screens this year which helps with Swallows completion percentage.

Big Ern any word on Mathews health is he ready to go this week.

Actually, the NCAA counts our All-American team too. It recognizes both AFCA and D3football.com on equal footing in the NCAA record book.

Bigernernwj69 · October 23, 2007, 10:25:19 PM

Quote from: Darkside90 on October 23, 2007, 07:02:50 PM
smallerner,
ARE U CRYING AGAIN. I was messing with ya boy "fast willy" didn't u see the smilly face. I thought it was cool for a little friendly trash talking. As for my Brandon Chambers comment, I was refering to the receiver Dback matchup GENIUS. As for your comment about him, that was totally uncalled for. I'm not sure what B. Chambers is doing with himself, but someone with a football career as insignificant as yours isn't even allowed to make reference to someone who had a career like his. I see why the former W&J players I talked to said your not even respected among them.

Its funny how you say none of my former teammates respect me, one was voted captain, two still keep in touch with mostly all of them and three you need to stop swinging off of the Power teet at W&J. Now as for Matthews Wes he is in and ready to rock. These means more headaches for the waynesbug defense.

Now Darkside you need to stop being a baby and quit living in the past. We would like to keep talking about this season, but you keep bring up glory days. I can say i came back to play in the PLAYOFFS FOR THREE GAMES (wouldn't be nice to say that you played in three playoff games, but you cannot) after blowing my knee out, but i do not expect to get a pat on my back for doing that. You would have been out for a whole year. Whats next you going to start talking about high school football stats. How great so and so was. Just stop it and start talking about his year. Now as for Thiel this year, they are having a bad year, but i am sure they will not fold and next year they will be a force in the PAC.

I think if W&J can make Waynesburg throw they can have a major victory on their hands. The yellowjackets do not have the WR's like in years past.
OLINE you should get more Yellowjackets on here it would be nice to have a person from each school cheering their team on in this chat room.

P.S. Willy remember when the recruits that would meet you?

Darkside90 · October 23, 2007, 11:44:10 PM

smallerner,

You remind me of that song "It's my party and I CRY if I want to, CRY if I want to, CRRRRYYYYY if I want to. You would CRY too......" I would CRY too if I was an insignificant part of my team's success.

Seriously though tinyerner, if any of this offends you I'm sorry, I enjoy joking around with your former teammates, and I'm sure they RESPECT you very much, I think.

I'm sure you were a SATISFACTORY player for the Prez, and it doesn't matter that no one remembers you or your limited contribution to your team. Just remember you were a part of something GREAT and no one can take that away from you.

Your BIGGEST FAN
Darkside 90