FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[Ralph Turner]

The Geneva game only falls into the secondary criteria at most.

I would not worry about it.

[PittTBCW]

Prediction Time:

Saturday, November 3

Saint Vincent at Grove City* - 1 p.m.

SVC is still looking for thier first win. GCC regained the Mercer Cup last time out with a victory against the Tomcats. I think this long year may even get longer for the visitors. I think the Wolverines have found a late spark in their season and it will continue this week at home.

GCC 35 SVC 14


Carnegie Mellon at Bethany – 1 p.m.

Bethany returns home after a good win vs a good TMC team. They face CMU who back to 500 after winning two in a row after dropping 4 close games in a row. Bethany's offense looks like it has worked out its kinks and the defense is playing much better. I am going to take the PAC team in a close one.

Bethany 35 CMU 34


Thiel at Westminster* - 1:30 p.m.

The Tomcats look to rebound against the struggling Titans. Westminster was able to win last week vs Frostburg to even their record at 4 - 4. While the Tomcats got a week off looking to find some answers. Knowing Coach Leip and his staff the Tomcats did some soul searching along with some hard work on the bye week to try and be 1-0 at 4 pm on Saturday. Hess and the Darkside will have good days in this battle.

Thiel 17 Westminster 13


Waynesburg at Geneva* - 1:30 p.m.

The Yellow Jackets look to rebound after a 1pt loss vs the Presidents. Heller is running on everyone and anyone in his way. He will find a formidable foe in Geneva this week. I think the Golden Tornadoes will find a vulnerable Waynesburg team that is still healing from last week's lost. Dispite 100 + yards and two TD's from Heller and a good effort from Czerwein, Steele, and Strothers on defense they lose a tough one.

Geneva 27 Waynesburg 21

Wash. & Jeff. at Thomas More*^ - 2:30 p.m.

W&J came from behind and showed character last week betting a good Waynesburg team. They struggled against the run and turned the ball over. TMC suffered a disappointing loss against Bethany. They need to get Collier more involved this week if they want to be in this game. W&J is on the road for 4 concecutive weeks which could lead to a let down. On the other hand they have Swallow, Matthews, and McCafferty which will create chaos for the Saint defense.

W&J 38 TMC 13

GOOD LUCK TO ALL PAC TEAMS!!!

GOOOO TOMCATSSSSSS!!!

[Darkside90]

I was checking out the PAC stats this morning and came across this one:

RECEPTIONS/GAME    Team Cl  G  Rec  Yds TD Avg/C Rec/G Long
-----------------------------------------------------------
1. Ian Tobin......         GRO  SR  8   60  315  0    5.2     7.50   25

I don't think I've ever seen a statline like this one.  60 catches is by far leading the PAC, but for just 315 yards and 5.2 YPC!  I know this isn't very important to anything, just thought that was a very odd stat.

Wow EC!!!  You've got wayyyyyyy too much time on your hands. 
Can you also tell me how many Minutes Jon Howson played in 2002 against Bethany or how many Time Outs Grove City called in 04' against Westminster?
Me and the rest of your FANCLUB feel neglected with all the time you spend looking up meaningless stats.

Just kidding.  It a tough job, but someone has to do it. 

As for the W&J vs WC game, the score really surprised me.  I didn't expect it to be that close, but the Prez showed their championship form and pulled out the win.

I also came across this stat about some really good D-lineman for Thiel, can't remember his name, but he was one of their greats.  But he was 0-4 against W&J. 

Fanclub is back.

EC, GREAT COMEBACK. 
I think I know who u are talking about, so if u can't remember his name just ask ur Prez coaching staff, former Prez O-lineman, and QBs.  I pretty sure they remember him.

P.S
I kinda feel bad for any Prez that played in 05' because they were the first team to loose to the Tomcats in about 20 years.  What year did you say you Graduated in?

Darkside90
Lifetime President of the EC WARRIOR FANCLUB
NOT!!!

[Bigernernwj69]

I am really loving the buzz that's going on. The game last Saturday was pretty good. The boyz in red and black held off a work horse in Heller to win the game. I am just worried about the presidents in the next two weeks, if and when they hold off the upset hopefuls in Thomas More and Bethany they will host every game until the travel to Alliance OH. But lets not get two far ahead, i still think that they need to finish up the season strong and correct anything that's been labeled a weakness for the presidents. Because as we know the teams down south in Texas have a pretty good track record against the Presidents. The running backs are faster and the linemen are larger. With saying that the game this weekend needs to be a Patriots type of victory. I need a score of 54-7. I do not think Coach Sirianni will do this because he is a classy coach, but in the same breath i think it needs to be done to keep momentum in the Presidents favor. 
Does Bethany's passing game represents a problem for the presidents next week?

[Bigernernwj69]

Well its time to get this weeks predictions in.

First off the game of the week the yellow jackets get this honor two weeks in a row because if they lose this weekend to Geneva they are done. The glass slipper will break and the Cinderella story will end tragically. But Waynesburg fans I do think that they will hold off a bigger team in Geneva and win this game by a TD
WC 24 GC 17

Next game will be the Bethany and the Carnegie Mellon, now with the momentum on the side of Bethany I think the Passing game will keep them in the game and have a build up story going into next weeks game against the Presidents which the Presidents have shut out three straight years, but back to the game the Bison's roll and rack up almost 450 yards of offense.
BC 31 CMC 21

We are now heading to the furthest game that the PAC has to travel; it's the W&J Thomas More game. The boys in red and black are going to sharpen their wits and put the ROCK smack down on the Saints. I look for Gitlitz to keep his streak domination going as he will have 17 tackles and an interception which he will not return for a touchdown but will set one up for the Offense. I look for the D-line to get after the young QB and hear the names of Jeff Ernst and Jake bloomhuff throughout the day. They will combine for 3.5 sacks and 4 TFL's. I look for N Schafe to keep the pep band going and bottles popping after the presidents win and secure their playoff birth.
W&J 52 TMC 7

Now for my upset of the week. I look for the mighty mighty Titans to take advantage of a banged up Thiel Tomcats team and win a very close game.
The final score will be decided on turnovers and Westminster will have the least of the two teams.
TC 13 WMC 14

For the final game of the week the Wolverines and Bearcats. I love the way the Bearcats play, they play to the whistle and do not ever give up. But they are going to finish the first year winless in the PAC and the Wolverines will be doing the wolverine dance as they will try to run the score up but the Bearcats will not let that happen.
GCC 24 SVC 14

[Wes Mantooth]

Some predictions for the coming week.



Saint Vincent at Grove City

GCC rolls in this one. Ian Tobin has 10 receptions for 52 yards and two td's. Ian is a friend of mine and he is a wingback and they release him in the flats a lot and he gets a lot of check downs.  Didinato runs for two and throws for 3.

GCC 42 SVC 7

Carnegie Mellon at Bethany

Looks like everyone is picking the Bison this week. I disagree and am not totally sold on the Bison being that respectable yet. CMU is coming off an upset win over Wash U and the Sivek train runs through the Bison. Remember this was a playoff team last year who is having a tough time this year.

CMU 27 Bethany 10

Thiel at Westminster

This game will not be exciting at all. Defense rains supreme in this one and the first offense to make a play wins. I like Westminsters chances of making a play as they have some playmakers and an actual QB not a WR playing QB. Rosatelli scores two one on a punt return. Franz throws for for two. 

Westminster 21 Thiel 13

Waynesburg at Geneva

I was not sold on the burg but they proved me worng. I look for them to handle Geneva. Heller will run for 200 on 36 carries and three td's.

Waynesburg 27 Geneva 17

Wash. & Jeff. at Thomas More

TMC one game playoff is a laugher. SAINTSFAN everyone plays like its the playoffs against W&J . Too young of a team to play with the prez. I look for Prez to play alot better as they did not play there best against the Yellow jackets.  Swallow throws for 4 td's and 300 yards. Jones and Mathews combine for 180 and two Td's.


W&J 42 TMC 20

Good luck to all

Go W&J

Big Ern and Saints enjoy that cold one at the tailgate. Ern i will see you next sat for sure i am pretty sure i will be at the Bethany game.

[SaintsFAN]

it may be a laugher, but its THAT point in the season for THOMAS MORE. 

W&J may be EVERYONE's playoff game.  But TMORE ends the season with TWO playoff participants.  Though not many playoffs allow you to lose the first and still play the 2nd .....We went 1-1 last year. 

bigern,

I'm going to give you my cellphone # offline here in a PM (don't want all you a$$holes to have it!!    )

We need to find a place to meet tomorrow.. I can find you in the tailgate. 

[SaintsFAN]

also, Bob Gregg....where are you going to be prior to the game? 


as far as predictions....I predict that IF the hotel that W&J is staying at has a disruption in the middle of the night tonight, they'll be a little groggy tomorrow.

haha.....NO, I doubt this would happen.  I sure hope not, at least. 

I also predict that I'm going to be nursing a major hangover tomorrow morning....its been a chitty week at work and I'm ready to tie one on this weekend and paint the town BLUE and SILVER.

[Wes Mantooth]

Saints if you and Big Ern get together you are going to postpone the hangover to Sunday Morn as i can attest he can get it done. I recommend some of Kentucky's finest James Beam to cure your week it always works for me.

[Bob.Gregg]

also, Bob Gregg....where are you going to be prior to the game? 

In my car, driving to the game.

Wash., PA departure--6 am!

[SaintsFAN]

thats cutting it close. 

we'll probably just break into the radio booth during the 1st Quarter....

airtime for SaintsFAN!!!

and bigern. 

Wes,

I think I'd give bigern a run for his money.  Bakc when we played, we were given one night to drink (Saturday night) and believe me, you couldn't tell if we won or lost come 6pm on Saturday night. 

We'll see. 

[Bob.Gregg]

Plenty of time, for breakfast, for setup, for chill out.

Then kickoff.

SaintsFan, make sure you come to the Press Box and intro yourself.

We've met bigern before, I think.  My guess is that he was a Presidents Football Preview guest at some point in his career...

[SaintsFAN]

Bob,

Nice meeting you on Saturday. . . did you guys ever recover from the conversation I witnessed?  I don't really know what that was all about.  wow.

bigern,

Nice meeting you also, bro.  Did you enjoy the St. X win over Elder?  I lost phone reception on Saturday night.  I tried calling to no avail. . .


W&J, though they looked good, I don't think we saw Swallow at his best on Saturday.  The skill position players are very impressive with their ball skills, speed and toughness.  We had a heck of a time tackling.  I'm interested to see how far W&J can go.  The INT on the first play of the game was impressive as I thought for sure the db wasn't going to get to the ball before it hit the ground.  Not alot of positives from this one for the Saints, but I believe they are on the right path.  Its a young team, BUT I don't want to be saying this again next year.  Hilvert is going to bring in a great class and there's sure to be competition all over the roster. 

[Bob.Gregg]

W&J, though they looked good, I don't think we saw Swallow at his best on Saturday. 

I don't think anyone saw Swallow at his best over the four-game road trip.

Of course, I was in the band in High School, and the broadcast booth in college, so what do I know?

Seriously, the very good numbers Swallow has put up over the past five weeks are a definite step down from the first four weeks of the season.  Of course, when you efficiency rating is 240+, it's likely to come down.

But, Saintsfan, Swallow was 20-28 for 204 yds and 2 scores.
He could EASILY have been 24-28 (passes behind open recievers, particularly McCafferty across the middle).  And several of those immediately preceeded punts--1st two possessions of second half.

Swallow's alot like Pizza--When it's good, it's great.  When it's bad, it's still pretty good!

[Cleveland Cartel]

Thiel vs Westminster Game,

I had heard over the weekend about a on the field fight that took place after the game on Saturday.  If anyone has any insight as to what happened and why it took place it would be helpful. 

Westmin and Thiel has never been known as a vicious rivalry but it may have just started!