FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[Bigernernwj69]

Here's an open reminder that a pick to disappoint doesn't mean a first-round loss. So when W&J wins this Saturday, I hope we don't hear from them in the newspaper that we picked them to lose, like we heard in 2004.

Um, Pat, one of your guys did (pick W&J to lose) considering Bridgewater and W&J played in the first round…



"Champion
Keith: Forced to choose, I like Bridgewater’s playoff experience and the fact that they were tested early in the season and perhaps worked out the kinks since then."

Nice job Bob, I like that you are on top of your game coming into the game Saturday. As for you Pat either way you look at it in 2004 we took the words as motivation. No thought we would have made it that far into the playoffs. NO ONE BUT US. We still had people doubting us against CNU, but once again we won. It's nothing personal we just like to prove people wrong, so once again W&J is not predicted to win the south we hope to prove people wrong once again. First thing first W&J has to take care of business this weekend and that's the bottom line. Pat we love your insight and most of the time your right on. All it is anyways is just predictions the boys have to go out there and DO WORK not the writers.

With that being said W&J will win a shoot out this weekend 110-97. This will look like an NBA score when it is all said and done. All joking aside W&J wins 35-24. The Presidents have to do to NCWC Qb what the wildcats did to Dixon last night, sad to say but if their qb is out or at least pressured a lot W&J can cause mistakes and win the football game. I look for BOBBY SWALLOW TO HAVE A GREAT GAME AND GET DARKSIDE TO START SELLING SWALLOWS GAMES TOWELLS ON THE INTERNET AFTER THIS WIN.


Wes lets get it done and act college on Saturday

[Bigernernwj69]

Why is it my Karma points keep going down this is BULL CRAP

[Pat Coleman]

Here's an open reminder that a pick to disappoint doesn't mean a first-round loss. So when W&J wins this Saturday, I hope we don't hear from them in the newspaper that we picked them to lose, like we heard in 2004.

Um, Pat, one of your guys did (pick W&J to lose) considering Bridgewater and W&J played in the first round...



"Champion
Keith: Forced to choose, I like Bridgewater's playoff experience and the fact that they were tested early in the season and perhaps worked out the kinks since then."

Yes, sir. That's not the same as "D3football.com picked us to lose," though, Bob. It's not the opinion of the site and it's not even the majority opinion on Triple-Take. And Keith is not only entitled to his own opinion, it was posted after I made my post.

Why so combative this year, Bob? Did we do something to you?

[Bob.Gregg]

So when W&J wins this Saturday, I hope we don't hear from them in the newspaper that we picked them to lose, like we heard in 2004.

Um, Pat, one of your guys did (pick W&J to lose) considering Bridgewater and W&J played in the first round...


"Champion
Keith: Forced to choose, I like Bridgewater's playoff experience and the fact that they were tested early in the season and perhaps worked out the kinks since then."

Yes, sir. That's not the same as "D3football.com picked us to lose," though, Bob. It's not the opinion of the site and it's not even the majority opinion on Triple-Take. And Keith is not only entitled to his own opinion, it was posted after I made my post.

Why so combative this year, Bob? Did we do something to you?

Just looking for accuracy, Pat.  And when I posted inaccurately yesterday, I acknowledged, apologized and re-doubled my efforts to not repeat that mistake.

Keith's quoted comments (above) are from the 2004 Our playoff surprises, disappointments column.  Keith, Pat, Gordon all posted together.  Those are well before your Post Pattern comments on THIS year's team.

in 2004, Bridgewater played W&J in the first round, and Keith picked Bridgewater as the 2004 regional champion, that required W&J to lose to Bridgewater.  So, yes, Keith (for d3football.com) picked W&J to lose in the opening round.

"We" is whom when it comes to d3football.com?  Pat, Keith, Gordon, right?  This was a three-writer column on D3football.com, not a Post Pattern entry.

Keith (for d3football.com) can't pick a team to lose in the first round, then have you say you didn't pick them to lose in the first round.  That's all.

[Bob.Gregg]

Broadcast link for North Carolina Wesleyan at Washington & Jefferson:

http://www.wjpa.com/sports.htm

[the_burghboy]

Print this  for next year boys:

An absolute joke you were the #1 seed, and deserved to lose. 

[Mad Anthony]

"Deep into the playoffs", huh ?!!
So what was the woulda-coulda-shoulda score in this ball game ?
Let's face it guys, with both W&J and Waynesburg going down today, maybe PAC football just isn't what some of us crack it up to be.
Does anybody remember the "Pathetic" Athletic Conference ?

[Bob.Gregg]

Can't write about Waynesburg, and they weren't in a game that has any bearing on anything today.

W&J, on the other hand, got beat, in overtime, by a team of great athletes that found a way to win.

The Bishops used all three phases of the game to make it happen.

Congrats to them.

[Pat Coleman]

So when W&J wins this Saturday, I hope we don't hear from them in the newspaper that we picked them to lose, like we heard in 2004.

Um, Pat, one of your guys did (pick W&J to lose) considering Bridgewater and W&J played in the first round...


"Champion
Keith: Forced to choose, I like Bridgewater's playoff experience and the fact that they were tested early in the season and perhaps worked out the kinks since then."

Yes, sir. That's not the same as "D3football.com picked us to lose," though, Bob. It's not the opinion of the site and it's not even the majority opinion on Triple-Take. And Keith is not only entitled to his own opinion, it was posted after I made my post.

Why so combative this year, Bob? Did we do something to you?

Just looking for accuracy, Pat.  And when I posted inaccurately yesterday, I acknowledged, apologized and re-doubled my efforts to not repeat that mistake.

Keith's quoted comments (above) are from the 2004 Our playoff surprises, disappointments column.  Keith, Pat, Gordon all posted together.  Those are well before your Post Pattern comments on THIS year's team.

in 2004, Bridgewater played W&J in the first round, and Keith picked Bridgewater as the 2004 regional champion, that required W&J to lose to Bridgewater.  So, yes, Keith (for d3football.com) picked W&J to lose in the opening round.

"We" is whom when it comes to d3football.com?  Pat, Keith, Gordon, right?  This was a three-writer column on D3football.com, not a Post Pattern entry.

Keith (for d3football.com) can't pick a team to lose in the first round, then have you say you didn't pick them to lose in the first round.  That's all.

Alright, i missed your reference that this was 2004. But Keith doesn't speak for the site, any more than the Observer-Reporter's sports columnist speaks for the newspaper as a whole. You're a media guy, right? Take off the W&J hat and think like a media person.

[Cleveland Cartel]

Alot of critiscm concerning the D3 Writers views and opinions on the seedings. 

But that is exactly what they are and they are posted to do exactly that create headlines.

It looks like they were dead on with the call for WJ to Lose. 

Regardless if the Editors of D3 believed WJ had a tough schedule and did not play anyone.  All of us as players understand you may not always have your A Game with you every Saturday, and you still find ways to win no matter what.  WJ found ways to win for Ten straight weeks.  I feel they were entitled to their number 1 seeding.  When a team gets to the playoffs we will find out just how time tested they are, and NCWC has some athletes and find a way to win against WJ. 

WJ Seniors season may have ended premature in their minds, but don't ever feel short changed.  They accomplished alot over the last 4 years and leave the game for good on top.  Congrats to those guys.

[Cleveland Cartel]

Mad Anthony made a terrific commment about our Conference as a whole.  We believe it has gotten more competitive over the last 6 years.  Have we really closed the gap on the other conferences?

Tough question but because their are a plenty of D1 small and large school in Ohio and PA.  Those schools take alot of our athletes.  There are also a large amount of DI AA and D2 schools in Ohio and PA for that matter as well.  WHen it coems to D3 there are alot of schools that are geographically close giving the student athlete plenty of choices.  Let's be honest having MUC right on the border line of PA-Ohio they take a ton of talent as well. 

As a PAC Athlete Alumn i would like to say we have closed the gap but maybe we are really getting ahead of ourselves here.  Our conference will now have the ability to send two teams to the playoffs possibly, but how far will they end up going?  WJ has always represented this conference well.  Why aren't the rest of the teams in the PAC picking it up?

I truly believe we dont have enough players leftover as they do in the south or even in the Northwest.  Were not bigger, faster,or stronger than these teams we play come playoff time it seems.

Its not the coaching but the caliber of the players we are getting in our conference that is keeping the PAC lagging when it comes to other conferences.

[Cleveland Cartel]

BIGERN,


Your posts always make me crack up.  I'll help you out with some positive Karma.

[the_burghboy]

In all honesty, I think the writers justified their opinion, and the result yesterday just was the explanation point.   As much as it pains me, you don't deserve your number one seed when you can't beat the eighth seed on your home field.  

Not in any way to diminish what the Bishops have accomplished, but to just simply congratulate them is ignoring the issues that have plagued W&J all year.   That is if you consider them an elite team in Division III.

They played at times fantastic for four quarters, and at other times, left teams that should not be on their level hanging around later in games.  Defensively they never really showed talent on that side of the ball that could keep them deep in the postseason.    

There were posts here during the season that implied 'a win is a win',  but also stressed they need to get better toward the end of the season if they want to accomplish more.  

They never really improved, and thats why their season is over.

[Cleveland Cartel]

The WJ loss this weekend does defend all their comments that were made in the last week, and will not sit will with Presidents fans and Alumni.

I dont think anyone is diminishing what the Bishops have Accompilshed, but I dont think the WJ senior class has anything to look back upon and regret. 

Maybe they didn't improve enough as the season went on, but maybe the competition in our conference wasn't pushing them to take their game to the next level. 

They will continue to represent this conference well for years to come with Siranni as Coach.

[the_burghboy]

Cleveland,

I agree with your post for the most part, but I don't buy the 'competition' in the PAC as the reason they couldn't move forward in the postseason.

There have been countless seasons where the PAC competition didn't exist, yet didn't  prove to be an obstacle for deep playoff runs.   Don't get me wrong, I would like to see the team more 'battle tested' during the season, but you can only play who is on your schedule.

That schedule may be well received next season with the graduating class anyway, but I have to wonder if W&J gets into the postseason again, will this flop be considered into the seeding process for future seasons?