FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[Bob.Gregg]

P.S.  Walt Harris said that hindsight was 50/50.  Sorry, I couldn't resist.

And where's HE coaching now?  lol

[Bigernernwj69]

BIGERN,


Your posts always make me crack up.  I'll help you out with some positive Karma.

CC,
That's really nice of you.  Maybe now he won't CRRRRYYYYY  so much!!!!!

Oh no!  If he reads this he'll start crying again, and all your charity would have been for nothing.

Sorry Dark go to your room, adults are talking now.

I have waited three days to post something on here. I wanted to wait until I had a clear mind, but there are a few points I would like to make known.

I watched the game and thought W&J was going to slip one by NCWC, W&J had the rock on the 3 yard line less than 4 minutes to go in the game. Mike lines up in his goaline package, in which I do not disagree in doing. But he runs a gadget play on third down to get minus three yards. He faked to the fullback and tossed it to the running back. The ball was on the 1 yard line. He did not hand the ball off once to the fullback in the game. There was no set up for this play. But MIKE decided to go into his bag of tricks and pull out fake dive toss. Why not pound the ball and put the game out of reach and milk more time off the clock or spread them out and go empty and run qb draw. Bobby has not really ran the ball all year it would have been something that could have caught the defense off guard. In the first overtime before the worst call in W&J history took place Matthews scored on a draw play from like the 6 yardline. Now after this the boys lined up and were ready to kick the extra point, so we all thought. Then he puts a perfect 10-0 season and all of the seniors last year of football on the line with a fake FG with the KICKER RUNNING THE BALL. If he would have remembered just ten minutes ago when W&J was on the 1 yard line that he tried a similar trick play with the fake dive toss to his explosive RB and it did not work. So what's to say that a KICKER could have done it better?  Now as I watched this game I started to feel like 2004 season with Bridgewater and us going into overtime and we could not stop their offense, but guess what when we finally did stop them it was for the win. I think Mike lost confidence in his boys and panicked. If he wanted to WIN THAT GAME and NOT RISK A BLOCK EXTRA POINT< THEN PUT YOUR OFFENSE ON THE FIELD. I am sure that your two future all-Americans on the offensive line BUCAR & HOUY, SR T-MAC, SR HOFF, BIG GAME SWALLOW, SR MATTHEWS, CHURCH, RAT, ESPE, and The REST OF THE OFFENSE would have loved to been out on the field with a chance to win the game.

Now for defense. I do not think that Klein has been able to stop a mobile QB Since I began playing and watching W&J FOOTBALL (2007 NCWC, 2007 BC, 2006 Thomas More, 2006 MHB, 2005 Bridgewater, 2005 Salisbury, 2004 MHB, 2004 Bridgewater. I am sure there are couple of more I am missing.  He barely blitz in the second half and had his boyz dropping real deep in zone coverage and left NCWC QB plenty of room to run. I may have seen Gitlitz blitz once in the second half. Was not the same Defense that played in the first half? W&J blitzed a lot more in the first half. Which cause some confusion for QB. He went to a PREVENT DEFENSE (which is a prevent you from winning defense).

Special teams, it's what I have been saying all year that his would ultimately end the season for the Presidents. Two blocked kicks, one kicked returned and another that almost went back for a return. 40 seconds left in the first half and we kick the ball off instead of a squib kick. They almost ran back the opening kickoff was anyone else concern that we did not want to give up a big return to end the half? I guess not. NCWC was not strong on snapping for their punts did W&J think once of blocking it?

There are a lot of questions that can be asked but we will never know why for any of them. Just think if W&J converts that fake we are not sitting here talking bad about the program but saying how much guts Mike has for calling such a play. It's a double bladed sword that has its good and bad. If you make a call like that and it does not work than the coaches should be man enough to take any criticism that any parent, fan, Alumni, or friend has to say. W&J needs to learn from the mistakes and to the SR's you guys had one hell of a ride and good luck in your future.

[bigerneatsboogers]

i think everybody forgot that ONE play doesn't decide a game...here's something that nobody has mentioned- WHAT IF IT WORKED? what would be said on here? i'm only speculating but i'm guessing something along the lines of "DUBJ THE LSU OF D3" or "OH MY GOSH I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT JUST HAPPENED"
anyway i think everybody needs to chill, do i agree w/the call? maybe, maybe not. but are you guys going to judge coach's career on one play? if so maybe it should be krepps's qb sneak from the 1 inch line out of 5 wide? he continues to snag national recognition for a little ass d3 progrem and e.c. and bigern he gave us the best times of our lives, i personally don't think your busting on him e.c. but i could be biased , but bigern you need to bring it down, i'm not playing daddy to anybody on here because you're all grown ass men but bigern did he or did he not support you when you knee was shredded and you were rehabbing, just like me and e.c. had to sponge bathe you at scar's?? yeah it sucks the game ended like that but whaddyagonnado?...

[EC Warrior]

I am not trying to rip on Sirianni, I think he is an excellent coach, I just simply didn't like the play call.  That is basically why this message board is here isn't it, so we can question calls.  Loved going for two, didn't like the play though.

I think we also forget that the players should be held accountable as well.  Sirianni obviously had enough faith in his players to execute and they didn't.  W&J and Sirianni will be back next year, and will be fighting in the playoffs again.   

[Bob.Gregg]

boogs,

I'm not judging Coach's career on one play, one game or one season.

The great thing about this game is that we call all talk about "what if"...

And, I'll confess (as I have already), it's easy for me to do say this or that 'cause I'm in the broadcast booth, and nobody's gonna squeeze my 'nads for a call I made, whether it works or not.

And I think I would have still asked "why" had Grabner made it....It probably would have come out AFTER "Can you believe he called that" but I would have asked "why".

[bigerneatsboogers]

*program
* YOUR knee

[Bigernernwj69]

*program
* YOUR knee

"There are a lot of questions that can be asked but we will never know why for any of them. Just think if W&J converts that fake we are not sitting here talking bad about the program but saying how much guts Mike has for calling such a play. It's a double bladed sword that has its good and bad. If you make a call like that and it does not work than the coaches should be man enough to take any criticism that any parent, fan, Alumni, or friend has to say. W&J needs to learn from the mistakes and to the SR's you guys had one hell of a ride and good luck in your future."


Dirt did you read this quote at all. I enjoyed my times at W&J and would never change them for all the money in the world. Now as for the last call of the game I can honestly say that was a bad call. But I never said he was a terrible coach; just look what he did for us my senior year. We should have been out in the first round, but mike called a great game. You can never take away. I also said in my quote that if the play would have worked we all would have complimented his call. Now it did not work, so that is that. I also got a little more in the pot than just being an alumnus, I have a brother on the team whose season is over and his football career is over.

Now as for my knee, he did support me when I blew my knee out. What else was he suppose to do tell me not to rehab or come around the field? Yes he gave me chance to come back on for the playoffs, but then again I went threw his a lot of his test to earn my spot back. I respect Mike a lot if you are an everyday ready of this post pattern site then you would have seen that I always give Mike props for being a great coach. I worked for Mike and developed a friendship with him, but when I messed up he let me know. I am not going to get in the extent of his punishments or how he handled situations, but one instance that does stick out is when he told me off in front of all the parents in Emory and Henry for getting a penalty. I messed up took my punishment like a man and moved on and did not make the mistake again. I think that he should do the same thing from this experience. It did not work take the criticism and move on and learn.

As for you, e.c and scars baths when my knee was out of order that's what friends are for and I will never forget that. I also will never forget how Chef Scars made noodles that could have used David Hasslehoff to prevent them from drowning.LOL. Like I stated before I will never forget my experiance I had at W&J, but what are people suppose to do just let it go and say its okay it was a gamble that did not work? I do not think so, when you gamble like that you will get people like me that will always question that call.  So, you can stop protecting Mr. Sirianni he is a big boy and can deal with this little sarcasm. Next year when he goes 10-0 again, this will start to fade out of peoples minds

[Wes Mantooth]

I questioned the call when i first witnessed it but realized he went for the win and you have got to do that. To many coaches are conservative in todays game so i respect that. Everyone has an opinion and i am throwing mine out there.  Like everyone has said its would of could have should have. You make it your a hero if you dont your a dog. Thats the profession and it comes with the territory. W&J has had some good success recently and is a winning program and will always continue to be. Whether or not they ever get to Salem is a question for all but at least they get that chance every year. Mad Mike has been head coach for 5 years now and has a very good winning percentage. Lucky was around a long time before he got to the two stagg bowls and won plenty of games. As much as Sirianni loved to yell at me i respect the man and he can coach and will continue to have success.

Dirty the sneak and overtime win will be something we will never forget and you will probably never forget giving Ernst the sponge bath hahaha i am sorry

Wodday i am not questioning your respect of Sirianni in this as i know you have respect for him no matter what went on. Losses sting when your team loses for you it stung more as your bro was on the team. Also i am possibly thinking of making a trip to the Boro for the Vincent Mclane game i will be in touch.

[SaintsFAN]

I'm sure nobody feels worse about it than Coach S. 

I for one, would sure as hell love to play for the guy....he plays to win.  They may not all go your way, but I think you'll see over time....that playing to win will be a great lesson for those who've played for the guy.  A lesson that they can take on in their "grown-up lives"....and put to good use. 

That may seem hoaky, but I played one year for Dean Paul (now at ONU) after playing for Vic Clark for 4 years.  Dean was known as a "riverboat gambler" and believed in going for the win.  In my one year with him, he went for it more times than we did in 4 years with Clark.  It also gave me an edge, I think...in my job that I have today.  Play to win. 

I know W&J will be mad next year...I'd hate to be their first opponent.  And it sucks that I have to eat crow from that Ralph Turner guy on here..

[Ralph Turner]

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I know W&J will be mad next year...I'd hate to be their first opponent.  And it sucks that I have to eat crow from that Ralph Turner guy on here..

+1 Saints fan!!!

As an ASC fan, if UMHB can beat NCWC, I don't know whom I want UMHB to play in the Regional Finals...getting revenge on that Wesley team or beating those yankees from Muhlenberg!

Shucks, those are my sentiments if NCWC wins, too!


Why, I was in 7th grade before I learned damnyankees was two words! 

[Wes Mantooth]

UMHB will pound NCWC in my opinion and pound the next opponent those boys are big and fast. NCWC is fast but very small especially up front. Their 3 man front will not work against the CRU as they will line up and physically beat them with the option game all day. Ill put my early score on the game at 45 - 14 UMHB.

[DogPower]

I have heard some news that a Wide Receiver from California who played at a 1AA school might be transferring to Thomas More. If thats the case then that should really help them. Anyone else hear that?

[SaintsFAN]

Haven't heard anything to that affect, DogPower. 

Do you know this guy or something?

[Knightstalker]

Today let us remember our Soldiers and Sailors who lost their lives at Pearl Harbor and those who survived the attack in our prayers and thoughts.

[DogPower]

Actually yeah, he was a former teammate of mine in high school. He says he is looking to transfer to a D3 school back towards his former home Cincinnati.