FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[Ralph Turner]

Pat Coleman will set up a separate Pick'ems board for you to keep them separate from other discussions.

[spikegrouchy]

Pat Coleman will set up a separate Pick'ems board for you to keep them separate from other discussions.

That's great!  I see that a lot of other conferences have a Pick'em boards.

[SaintsFAN]

O.K. PAC fans out there, here are my picks for the first week of D3 action.

Saturday, September 6

McDaniel over Saint Vincent
Washington & Jefferson over Oberlin
Otterbein over Bethany
Dickinson over Grove City
John Carroll over Thomas More
Marietta over Thiel
Heidelberg over Westminster
Wooster over Waynesburg
Seton Hill over Geneva

Looks like it is going to be a long weekend for PAC teams. 

Of course, I never said I was an expert!

What are your picks...?

No way Wooster gets by Waynesburg... and I think two of the games against the OAC will result in "W" for the PAC. 

Did anyone know that Oberlin was the last Ohio team to beat THE Ohio State University?  It was back in the 1920's...but still, I'd use it my recruiting pitch in the living rooms during the winter..

[South Willy]

SaintsFAN...

A win over JC by your boys would send a strong message to PAC. Closest match up might be West/HC game.

[SaintsFAN]

Yes it would....we'll see.  We will need to play awfully well and have some breaks go our way to have a shot at the end..

It sounds like W&J had some issues containing Nate Kmic from MUC in the scrimmage... though, I don't think that says much...most of D3 is going to have trouble with him this year. 

[the_burghboy]

Checking in, looking foward to another year of talking football with you all.

I also agreed with a previous post Pat had about W&J upping it's competition of teams outside the conference.  Nothing against the program,  but it's tough going to games where you know it's over by halftime.   

Furthermore, it doesn't lead to the team being 'battle tested' for the postseason, and why it's hard to buy into the preseason rankings until they go deeper in the playoffs.   

Hopefully the lesson learned against NC Weslyan was a valuable one for the '08 season.

[SaintsFAN]

Checking in, looking foward to another year of talking football with you all.

I also agreed with a previous post Pat had about W&J upping it's competition of teams outside the conference.  Nothing against the program,  but it's tough going to games where you know it's over by halftime.   

I'm sure you're right....but goddmn!  I'd sure like to have it that way for about 5 years..

[South Willy]

The PAC fans seem eerily quiet with opening day less than 72 hours away. No conference matchups this week but some interesting games.

I'm interested in finding out how well the new Bison QB will handle the offense. With all backs, receivers and 4 OF linemen returning (only one SR in the bunch), he certainly has an experienced unit. If the defense can improve a little on last seasons numbers, they may win a couple more games.

[footballfan12]

O.K. PAC fans out there, here are my picks for the first week of D3 action.

Saturday, September 6

McDaniel over Saint Vincent
Washington & Jefferson over Oberlin
Otterbein over Bethany
Dickinson over Grove City
John Carroll over Thomas More
Marietta over Thiel
Heidelberg over Westminster
Wooster over Waynesburg
Seton Hill over Geneva

Looks like it is going to be a long weekend for PAC teams. 

Of course, I never said I was an expert!

What are your picks...?


I feel that the PAC should have a decent opening week with some surprises possible.

McDaniel over Saint Vincent - still struggling in only their second year but improving
                         McDaniel-35    Saint Vincent- 17
Washington & Jefferson over Oberlin - Swallow picks up where he left off last season and look for the President's to run the ball well and play better defense with the new schemes.
                         W&J- 52          Oberlin- 7
Bethany over Otterbein- Possible upset here. Could be a real shoot out with the lack of defense from both teams.
                         Bethany-35     Otterbein- 28
Dickinson over Grove City- Didonato has a big day but the wolverines can get past Dickinson.
                        Dickinson- 24    Grove City- 14
Thomas More over John Carroll- Could be called an upset but with the return of the LB and QB from two years ago, look for a different year from the Saints.
                        Thomas More- 28    John Carroll- 17
Marietta over Thiel- Liep struggles in this one and an OAC team defeats the Tomcats in a close one.
                        Marietta- 24           Thiel-7
Heidelberg over Westminster- Heidelberg rolls over Westminster in a shoot because of the lack of defense Heidelberg could possess. Many of their athletes are on the offensive side of the ball.
                        Heidelberg- 42      Westminster-31
Waynesburg over Wooster- Heller Alert! He could run wild and will need to in order for the Yellow Jackets to start out 1-0.
                        Waynesburg- 24    Wooster- 17
Geneva over Seton Hill- Does not matter if there are scholarship players on the field the Tornados defense is stout. Look for a low scoring affair here.
                         Geneva-14        Seton Hill-10

[SaintsFAN]

I'm going to admit...I was silently thinking that Thomas More could shock John Carroll today.  .  .

Hats off to the Streaks.  They played with poise and intensity.  JCU defense forced a fumble on our first offensive play and it set the tone for the day.  I was impressed with how well coached John Carroll is, the QB who made some great reads on the zone/read, and also the WR's who made some acrobatic catches.  Thomas More has not closed the gap with upper-tier OAC teams and thats ok, not many teams have.

This was a good opener for Thomas More...to see what we need to work on.  This John Carroll team would finish in the top 2 in the PAC, from what I saw today.

[South Willy]

SaintsFAN...What a day!!!!  All I can say overall is wow, how bad is the PAC???

Most of the league just got spanked. The Bison hug in for a 13-7 halftime, then five turnovers later it was a blowout. Young QBs were all ineffective and that is being polite. No idea where they will go from here.

[SaintsFAN]

willy,

JCU will go 7-3 this year in the OAC..  17 starters back from last year...they were good, to say the least.

The big shocker, IMO... was Waynesburg/Wooster... hopefully they win next week so they can overlook Thomas More in two weeks. 

[spikegrouchy]

O.K. PAC fans out there, here are my picks for the first week of D3 action.

Saturday, September 6

McDaniel over Saint Vincent
Washington & Jefferson over Oberlin
Otterbein over Bethany
Dickinson over Grove City
John Carroll over Thomas More
Marietta over Thiel
Heidelberg over Westminster
Wooster over Waynesburg
Seton Hill over Geneva

Looks like it is going to be a long weekend for PAC teams. 

Of course, I never said I was an expert!

What are your picks...?

Well folks, maybe I AM an expert.  I picked every game!  Wow!

Yeah, it looks like the PAC cannot compete with other conferences at this time.  Even W & J had trouble today.

I saw the Westminster-Heidelberg game in person today.  Heidelberg has a great offense.  They scored on just about every possession in the first half.  Westminster was very slow reacting to the ball.  Their safeties were beaten numerous times for big plays.  And WC had many returning letterman on their defense this year.  Watch out OAC teams for the Student Princes!

[spikegrouchy]

Oh, I forgot to post the scores...

McDaniel 38, Saint Vincent 7
Dickinson 34, Grove City 7
Wash. & Jeff. 49, Oberlin 35
Marietta 21, Thiel 18
Otterbein 40, Bethany 7
John Carroll 41, Thomas More 14
Heidelberg 62, Westminster 27
Wooster 27, Waynesburg 6
Seton Hill 27, Geneva 18

[spikegrouchy]

Here are my picks for week 2:

September 13

Kentucky Christian over Bethany (First year Knights still beat BC)
Saint Vincent over Gallaudet  (First win for SVC)
Albion over Thiel (TC loses another close game)
Waynesburg over Hanover (Yellow Jackets rebound this week)
Allegheny over Westminster (Titans start 0-2)
Carnegie Mellon over Grove City (Grovers lose big)
Geneva over Salisbury (Geneva's defense pulls this one out)
Washington & Jefferson over Frostburg State (W & J wins big)

Hey, am I the only one with picks on this board?