FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference

[SaintsFAN]

Defensively, their base is a 3-3-5, but they just about never send only 3.  The defense is ridiculously complicated and all based on checks done at the line, so I won't even try to tell you about tendencies because they all change week to week based on formation, motion, etc.  I do know that their run defense is a bit more stout than their pass D.  All I have to say is that whether you are throwing or passing, try to avoid #40 (Matt Wenger, First team CCIW and CCIW Defensive Player of the Year) if that is physically possible...

As far as accolades go, sounds like NCC's QB and LB had nice years.  All the PAC has is MVP and that award went to Bobby Swallow (rightfully so).  The nature of the offense also contributed to the Saints not having the MVP on their team --they spread "the wealth" as part of their attack... resulting in it being hard to identify the "go-to player" on offense, its changed week to week. 

Jim Hilvert is the PAC "Coach of the Year" because in 2008, Thomas More was picked to be in the lower half of the PAC by media and coaches.  Hilvert and his staff got to 8 wins and the PAC Title with a very young team. 

I'm sure the plan is to confuse NCC with formations and motion.  It should be fun to see if the Thomas More offense dictates what they see from NCC's defense or vice versa. 

Defensively, as Bob said, Thomas More MUST stop the run.  W&J spread the field and the Saints responded to their run game, but I think the NCC attack will have a different feel to it altogether. 

I don't think I'm going to be able to make it to the game tomorrow... but will be there to see round 2.  Now this may appear I'm saying that TMC will win, but Pat has mentioned me doing some color analyst work via internet radio in Round 2.  NCC was mentioned as a possibility....but I'd love it to be the Saints 2nd round game --- but they have to play perfectly on defense for them to have a shot it appears. 

[CNU85]

Defensively the Saints lineup in a 4 DL, 4 LB set (its looks more like the 4-3-5 that is popular at the moment)... the 2 outside LB are very fast and have the size of safeties... the 2 MLB are typical size 6'2 240 and 6' 230 and flow very well to the ball.  The defensive line is very quick, Tyler Owens is 200 lbs on the defensive line but was all-PAC...  they have good size and motors on the rest of the defensive line. 

A 4-3-5! I hate when teams play 12 man defenses!!! 

Yeah I'm a retard and its been saved for posterity.  In my defense, I had just got done yelling at someone here for my job.... for not doing their job. 
I guess you could say the 12 man has been the key to our season.  Hopefully the refs take the "Hush Money" this weekend.

Yikes! I'd hate to have your job where yelling at other people is a requirement to getting things done!! 

Deep breaths....and beer always helps!!

[Outsider14]

Congrats and best of luck to both of the PAC teams in the playoffs this year. Having 2 teams from our conference in the playoffs is great. Thomas More is a strong and fast team and should turn some heads. W&J playing CNU is relatively familiar territory. Coach Kelchner has done a great job building that team, and Coach Sirriani continues to field successful teams. Rumor is Coach Tomlin will have some words for the Captains on Friday. He spoke to our team during the preseason, and he is a very talented speaker. Good luck to all involved

[CNU85]

That's cool! Tomlin and Kelchner go back to their days at William & Mary together. Plus Tomlin is from Newport News.

[SaintsFAN]

Defensively the Saints lineup in a 4 DL, 4 LB set (its looks more like the 4-3-5 that is popular at the moment)... the 2 outside LB are very fast and have the size of safeties... the 2 MLB are typical size 6'2 240 and 6' 230 and flow very well to the ball.  The defensive line is very quick, Tyler Owens is 200 lbs on the defensive line but was all-PAC...  they have good size and motors on the rest of the defensive line. 

A 4-3-5! I hate when teams play 12 man defenses!!! 

Yeah I'm a retard and its been saved for posterity.  In my defense, I had just got done yelling at someone here for my job.... for not doing their job. 
I guess you could say the 12 man has been the key to our season.  Hopefully the refs take the "Hush Money" this weekend.

Yikes! I'd hate to have your job where yelling at other people is a requirement to getting things done!! 

Deep breaths....and beer always helps!!

exactly.... I'm in the logistics industry... biggest food holiday of the year approaches and some ppl are so damned apathetic!!

[CNU85]

Defensively the Saints lineup in a 4 DL, 4 LB set (its looks more like the 4-3-5 that is popular at the moment)... the 2 outside LB are very fast and have the size of safeties... the 2 MLB are typical size 6'2 240 and 6' 230 and flow very well to the ball.  The defensive line is very quick, Tyler Owens is 200 lbs on the defensive line but was all-PAC...  they have good size and motors on the rest of the defensive line. 

A 4-3-5! I hate when teams play 12 man defenses!!! 

Yeah I'm a retard and its been saved for posterity.  In my defense, I had just got done yelling at someone here for my job.... for not doing their job. 
I guess you could say the 12 man has been the key to our season.  Hopefully the refs take the "Hush Money" this weekend.

Yikes! I'd hate to have your job where yelling at other people is a requirement to getting things done!! 

Deep breaths....and beer always helps!!

exactly.... I'm in the logistics industry... biggest food holiday of the year approaches and some ppl are so damned apathetic!!

Tell them to take a break...I already have my turkey! 

[SaintsFAN]

NCC 20-10 at halftime.

Matt Clark intercepted a pass at the goal line to quell another NCC drive. 

TMC's safeties are getting beat repeatedly deep.  If they don't step up this half and play like they have all year, its going to be a blowout.  Talking with some alums via text, we can't believe this development.  I'm not there, so I can't say if this is the fastest WR's as a group that TMC has faced, but our safeties are sure making it sound that way.

Time to wake up.

TMC is definitely upset at the way the half ended on a 14 point run for NCC>.... and they should be.  They let the Cardinals escape the first half with a lead.

the Saints have run for 45 yards... i see them pulling out a few tricks... and breaking a couple long ones.  W&J held them to that output if you take away the long runs also.

[SaintsFAN]

Congrats to W&J on the 1st round win at home.

TMC is trailing 23-10 midway through the 3rd quarter. 

NCC is playing well on offense... 9.8 yards per play in the first half.

[CNU85]

Congrats to W&J. Another win against CNU. And another late comeback falls short for CNU.

Good luck to the Presidents in round 2....Millsaps?

[SaintsFAN]

44-23 Final in Naperville, IL.

Thomas More played well for the first two or three series..  NCC was just too much offensively and defensively for the Saints. 

The Saints will be back next year.  Young team, that learned alot this year.  They'll have Geneva and W&J circled on the calendar for sure... along with a payback game at JCU. 

Interesting note today for PAC fans:  RB's Anthony Knott (ankle) and Kendall Owens (knee) both were out today.  Collier did everything that he could... but the sweep with our WR's just didn't do the same amount of damage as it did this year with Owens and Knott.  Thats not an excuse for today.  NCC was the superior team.  I think the lesson here for 2009 is to NOT take anyone lightly... the Geneva loss really cost the Saints some positioning in the Regional Rankings which put them on the road against NCC as an 8 seed.

W&J-Millsaps?  Sounds like an offensive show.  I look forward to seeing the Presidents win down in Jackson, MS.

[Ron Boerger]

W&J-Millsaps?  Sounds like an offensive show.  I look forward to seeing the Presidents win down in Jackson, MS.

Maybe in 2009.   

[SaintsFAN]

well, I don't know about that... W&J's QB, Bobby Swallow is Senior this year.

This would be a great win for the PAC.  Curry/Ithaca is a great example of possibilities...

W&J has trouble with TX teams and Wesley in the playoffs..


It WILL be a shoot-out, none-the-less. 

[Ralph Turner]

well, I don't know about that... W&J's QB, Bobby Swallow is Senior this year.

This would be a great win for the PAC.  Curry/Ithaca is a great example of possibilities...

W&J has trouble with TX teams and Wesley in the playoffs..


It WILL be a shoot-out, none-the-less. 

Millsaps has the same attributes as the HSU's, UMHB's and Trinity's that you have seen.

[ncc58]

NCC 20-10 at halftime.

Matt Clark intercepted a pass at the goal line to quell another NCC drive. 

TMC's safeties are getting beat repeatedly deep.  If they don't step up this half and play like they have all year, its going to be a blowout.  Talking with some alums via text, we can't believe this development.  I'm not there, so I can't say if this is the fastest WR's as a group that TMC has faced, but our safeties are sure making it sound that way.

NCC did this to everyone all year. Their WRs aren't the fastest WRs you'll see. But they all run good routes and have good hands, and the scheme is solid. Fanthorpe is very accurate as a QB, and he was exceptionally sharp today. TMC actually shut down Hlavac who is the best receiver. But MacIntosh had a huge game.

[SaintsFAN]

well, I don't know about that... W&J's QB, Bobby Swallow is Senior this year.

This would be a great win for the PAC.  Curry/Ithaca is a great example of possibilities...

W&J has trouble with TX teams and Wesley in the playoffs..


It WILL be a shoot-out, none-the-less. 

Millsaps has the same attributes as the HSU's, UMHB's and Trinity's that you have seen.

I don't agree --- from what I've heard.  The MC offense is probably better than what "they've" seen from HSU's, UMHB's and Trinity's... right?