WBB: GSAC

MCScotsFan · February 21, 2007, 09:11:05 AM

Respectfully, I disagree. I thought Alicia Brown ( the Brown kid?? What is up with that? Sorry, but it sounds disrespectful to me.) was a good choice. She is one heck of a player and hustles every second she is out there. She moves the ball inside and can shoot the 3s also.

You may have a point though. Maybe Nat thought she should have started last night so instead of going out there and giving it her all, she chose not to. Whatever the reason, she totally had that aura about her last night that she could not care about being on that court. She may have been the one player who didn't score at all. I hope something changes fast because she is better than this and I don't think a new coach can take all the blame. I think everyone is pulling for Natalie to get out of this funk or whatever it is. It is really hard to watch when you care about them as women and not just players.

GottaHaveHeart · February 21, 2007, 10:06:24 AM

I mean no disrespect to Alicia. I think she is a good player also.

But my thinking is, right now, in this situation, this time of the season, with hopefully the 2 most important games of the team's season coming up, if I had a choice of getting 1 player in the right frame of mind and ready to play, I would choose Natalie. Natalie can, if she wants to play, take over a game. I don't see Alicia doing that yet. Natalie can score inside or out, can also bring the ball up, and can rebound, where we definitely need help. Mental battle. If Natalie is in the game, (mentally) we are so much better.

I feel she should have started. I was not at the game and definitely don't agree with pounting, just because you don't start. But, on the flip side, come on now, if I'm a upperclassman, proven player, past starter, been there from the start, I can understand her feelings but definitely don't approve of how she handled it.

I am pulling for Natalie 100%. She made Alex and I feel so welcome, as everyone else did, when we first starting coming to open gym last spring. What impressed me is when I talked to her about the past season, she kept saying "my team" with passion, about everything, which made me believe she really cares, really wants to play and be a "BIG" part of the picture. I haven't seen that "BIG" part on a consistent basic, only in a few games. My feelings, its hard to be a "BIG" part if you not on the floor. It's not totally her fault or totally the coaches fault. Whatever the reason, I hope she and the Coach can get it together.......quick.....!!!

MCScotsFan · February 21, 2007, 10:42:17 AM

Amen to that!!

You know, open gym last Spring was before Bell left. That is when this attitude started shifting. Dee was at the gym before the game last night. Last stats I saw from last Thursday nights game, Nat had no points or rebounds for her time in the game. I am not sure how her rebounding was last night but the points weren't there. I'm not sure that last year's proof is getting it for her this season. I don't want to sound like I am dogging her. As I have said many time before, I WANT her to succeed. I would do whatever it took to see her happy and playing good ball. My wishing for her can only go so far.

When Summer arrived she also stepped in ahead of others. At first, it is always a

because here this new person just walks onto the court and gets so much playing time. I guess that is just part of the game. $:-\$
And next year there maybe freshman brought in who take over, you never know. I'm hoping to see Alex bring a lot to the team, for sure!

scottiedoug · February 21, 2007, 12:33:29 PM

I did not see last night's game so all I know is what y'all have said or written and the box score. Nat had 23 minutes, 4 defensive rebounds, and 2 assists. 0 for 5 shooting. Nobody else had more assists. Not a great line but not awful and it is hard to get too excited playing a team with as little likelihood of winning as Wesleyan. I hope she plays as she is capable from now on out because it will take that for the Scots to keep winning.

batteredbard · February 21, 2007, 06:53:30 PM

Quote from: scottiedoug on February 21, 2007, 12:33:29 PM
I did not see last night's game so all I know is what y'all have said or written and the box score. Nat had 23 minutes, 4 defensive rebounds, and 2 assists. 0 for 5 shooting. Nobody else had more assists

Not exactly.
Reed had 7 assists, Uner had 6 handouts, Alicia had 5, etc. 2 assists was only more than Saxe, Stache and Williams.

I liked the way the team played last night. Seal and Franklin both had a shot that went in and found a way to come back out. Those go down and you have 7 players in double figures.

I have no answer in how to motivate. (I might coach if I did) But from a life perspective, some people have to be shown to enjoy what's going on and what they are a part of. Maybe that's the case. Dee had a similar problem until late in the season last year.
The great thing about D3 is that the athletes aren't playing for a scholarship, its also the worst thing. The only real motivator is loving to play and loving to win and sometimes people wear out on the game. Think Brooke Johnson before she left Carson-Newman. She almost quit basketball before going on to another school. And that was after an MVP season as a freshman.

On a different note, talking with Wesleyan coach last night, sounds like the program is going to be a bit different next season. She's been out looking for players which is new for the Pioneers. They've pretty much been a recruit from the students who come to the school type program until now. Not saying they'll be a contender next season but looks like that long ride through the cellar may have motivated a need for change.

MCScotsFan · February 21, 2007, 10:53:50 PM

Quote from: batteredbard on February 21, 2007, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on February 21, 2007, 12:33:29 PM
I did not see last night's game so all I know is what y'all have said or written and the box score. Nat had 23 minutes, 4 defensive rebounds, and 2 assists. 0 for 5 shooting. Nobody else had more assists

Not exactly.
Reed had 7 assists, Uner had 6 handouts, Alicia had 5, etc. 2 assists was only more than Saxe, Stache and Williams.

Thank you for those stats because I was sitting here wondering what game I saw last night if Natalie had more assists than Beth and Mel. I was thinking "2 was the high number of assists??!!"

I hope GA Wesleyan does do some recruiting and get some bal players on thier team. Honestly, games like that are no fun for either side and I'm sure those Wesleyan girls were exhausted. Between the ride up here and game, I felt for them.

scottiedoug · February 21, 2007, 11:45:05 PM

Sorry for the screwup on Nat's assists. Being in a hurry often does that for me. I was looking at the turnovers column....

GottaHaveHeart · February 22, 2007, 06:25:35 AM

We are going to take care of business.....Friday and Saturday!

I will be there to cheer us on!!!!!

GSAC Killer · February 22, 2007, 08:38:07 AM

I don't know what has gone on recently with the Lady Scots but here is my take on things....
First and foremost you don't lose Conference Games to anyone but Piedmont and that sometimes is tough to swallow.. LOSING TO AGNES SCOT IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!

Second in my opinion Natalie Munday is the best player on this team.. Certain type of players need to be coached a certain way.. Natalie is unstoppable.. She can go inside and out"Just ask Oglethorpe last year in the NCAA Tournament game".

I think Coach Pardue has done a wonderful job with "Dee's Players".. I have spoken to Coach Pardue a couple of times and I think he is a great guy but I am still hesitant to say he is in Dee's league or the guy who is at Carson Newman... We will see how they do with the departure of Reed, Seal, Dalton and the possibility of Munday and Uner??

Good luck to Scots this weekend.. There is no doubt in my mind that if they play how I know they can the GSAC Championship should not be even close....

Beth, Kim, and Summer congrats on a great season and a great career.

scottiedoug · February 25, 2007, 12:10:49 AM

Well whatever happened (I was there only by radio), it was not Natalie's fault! I hope the Scots can get an at-large bid but wouldn't bet on it. Congrats to Piedmont and I hope they beat some people!

MCScotsFan · February 25, 2007, 04:19:33 PM

You are right. It wasn't Natalie's fault and it was the best I have seen her play in a long time and she was very, very sick. I'm hoping that even through her sickness, she was able to see a little of what awaits her around the corner if she'll get into shape, renew her desire and love for the game and go for it!

I'm not sure what happened. We weren't scoring as we should have, Summer didn't shoot much either day. Wondering if the ankle was bothering her? We had a lot of turnovers. Bad passes, loss of control of the ball etc. Seems like we had more than 18 t.o.
At the end, I thought we took the shot too soon and gave them ample time to tie us. We missed 2 easy shots, both we were wide open to make them and missed. What can you do? The ending foul? Ugh. I hated the ref calling that for the deciding factor. I dont think that was one to call--an offensive foul on the rebound. I felt really bad for Summer. Even so, we had opportunities to win that game before all that happened. We just couldn't do it.

Piedmont doesn't lose a player for next year. They'll be back and they'll be tough. I hope we're ready for them.

scottiedoug · February 25, 2007, 11:39:51 PM

I, too, hope Natalie and (Melissa) dedicate themselves to next year being different in the end. Lots of potential for the group, especially if a shooter can be found to step in for Summer's role.

GottaHaveHeart · February 26, 2007, 10:21:04 AM

Tough way for the season to end. Had 20 turnovers....hard to win like that. We still had our chances. First loss to Agnes Scott is probably what did us in on no bid. After seeing them this weekend, don't see how we loss that.

Congrats to Beth, Summer and Kim. I haven't known them long but enjoyed watching them play. Good luck with your upcoming successful careers.

Any word on any new recruits coming in? I heard we might be getting a kid from Hiwassee College and a post player from Cleveland High.

GSAC Killer · February 26, 2007, 12:06:05 PM

VERY VERY VERY DISappointed in the LADY SCOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That team is 30 pts better than any team in the GSAC... Did not p;ay to their potential... Very Very sad.... This years team is an NCAA Tournament team and possible Sweet 16 caliber team...

Its tough to see how the season ended because I know how good that team could have been.. It also ended the streak of 9 consecutive NCAA Apperances... WHERE IS DEE BELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think Coach Pardue had a good season but 3 conference losses UNACCEPTABLE!, especially AGNES SCOTT!
On what is coming in: Colleen McConnel our backup Pg last year is transferring back to the College...
Best of luck to the Piedmont Lions...

batteredbard · February 26, 2007, 03:48:31 PM

Watching it live, Piedmont deserves credit for a good defensive plan. They left their posts to handle Saxe on the inside and concentrated on defending the 3-point line. It worked. The only 3s came from the posts, Saxe 2-2, Munday 1-1, Seal 1-3.
Mel's defense really had Adcock on the ropes the first 15 minutes but give that freshman credit she put herself back together to get 16 points and the MVP with her second half game.
I wondered if MC shouldn't have forced the issue if PC was willing to let Saxe (and in the second half Munday) beat them, then why not force it, both Piedmont posts were in foul trouble to the point of alternating the last 10 minutes.

I know the officiating crew is a mixed one that comes off coaches recommendations before the tourney, but I don't know how you let the rip away from Saxe that tied the score go uncalled and then call the tangle, yes Summer's arm was trapped, to decide a conf championship. I'm not sure Maryville wins in overtime. Because of the foul situation it would have been who could keep playing and scoring without getting their fifth. Piedmont's bench is a lot longer that MCs anyway but with Fleming out with flu MC would have had to put in freshmen in ot if Uner, Saxe or Munday (each with 4 at game end) had been whistled for one in an extra session.

Regardless, NCAA doesn't consider the how they loss in at-large bids.