WBB: GSAC

Big Dog · January 30, 2008, 02:58:59 PM

GHH,

The reality of being injured is that if you can't help the team with your ability due to injury, PLEASE help it with attitude. Its tough to stay positive when you feel incapable of helping your teammates on the floor. Stay positive Alex and you can help your mates out even though you are just sitting. Sorry to hear about that but in sport you have injury, and dealing with the injury is as much of a learning venue in sport as playing. About the Lady Scots, if adversity doesn't bring you closer together you were never a team to begin with. These individuals have a few days to come together, or they will GET CLOBBERED on Saturday!

mcscotsguy · January 30, 2008, 03:16:32 PM

About the Lady Scots, if adversity doesn't bring you closer together you were never a team to begin with. These individuals have a few days to come together, or they will GET CLOBBERED on Saturday!
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Why do you insist on calling this team individuals?? Have you watched games recently..or read the articles? This TEAM is obviously making headway. Yeah they've apparently had their situations this year..but they look different the last few games than they have all year. Getting production from other areas and players getting chances...I'm impressed with the 4 game streak. Say what you want about their competition but the GSAC is as good as its ever been right now..other that GW...this conf. is evening out. I hope they clobber piedmont to shut up the doubters! Good luck ladies!

scottiedoug · January 31, 2008, 02:34:34 PM

Here is the link to the Daily Times' story today about Coach Fowler being named coach of the MC women's team for the rest of the year.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20080131/SPORTS/6357087/-1/sports

Big Dog · January 31, 2008, 04:34:05 PM

Check the folks pouting on the bench next time before you question how one who knows can call this collection of players individuals. To call them "team" would insist on a collective goal or unified purpose. These Lady Scots are WAY TOO SELFISH for that. However, Piedmont, unranked and justifiably so, may not be good enough to overcome this years group which is trying to become something they are not-a TEAM.

batteredbard · January 31, 2008, 04:57:18 PM

I think Big Dog may possibly have had a point, say 3 weeks ago. But not from what I've seen lately.

I see one pulling away and the rest coming together. The bench noise is about a 110 degree turn as its much more positive and supportive. Its also more instructive sharing things to watch and do rather than just 'I had such and such number' on substitutions.

I see the team coming around and I think the news that he's going to be taking them the rest of the way regardless can only help that situation. Now if that's good enough for Saturday I don't know. Dalnton would have to have a big road game, and every post will have to maintain the presence inside for it to work.

Piedmont is scheduling better competition. Winning at Miss College isn't taking on the best of the ASC but at least its playing someone in the ASC. No they aren't top 25 worthy but as we've said before huge difference between NCAA south region rankings and top 25. I'd be surprised if the Lions weren't in that second tier for the south behind McMurry, Howard Payne (and those two play tonight), and DePauw.

It was a much more accomplished MC team that last at Piedmont last season. Personally I think the extra days off without playing for the No. 1 seed in the conference are a burden rather than a blessing now that they are played on higher seeds floor rather than at tourney site.

Should be an interesting game. MC's coming around but Piedmont is obviously cruising after that 111-17 dismantling of Wesleyan. (who as I understand doesn't have a player on the roster this year who played high school ball).

GottaHaveHeart · January 31, 2008, 05:07:55 PM

Fowler might have a good chance to keep the job, unless Lambert opts for someone with more experience. If Fowler remains next year, I think he will go younger with his assistant and let Wilson go.

I have not seen any pouting on the bench lately. I have seen players react to being taken out, but if you a competitor, why would you not want to be on the floor, I can live with that. I doubt anyone is wishing anyone any bad luck when they are on the bench and others are on the floor. I believe these ladies like each other and want to win a whole lot more than you think Big Dog.

If we can keep it close going into the second half, we got a shot. What worries me about Piedmont is their guard penetration and offensive rebounds. Also, not sure how much good our press will do against them. I wouldn't want to give up too many easy baskets. I say, if we are not leading and its under 10 with 10 to go, we got a shot.

Pat Coleman · January 31, 2008, 07:06:58 PM

DePauw is in the Great Lakes in women's basketball. But Randolph-Macon will be in that top tier, I think, as would Oglethorpe before 11-3 in-region Piedmont.

younglion52 · January 31, 2008, 10:04:26 PM

Should be a good game this saturday at PC. The guard defense from piedmont has been very strong lately. I hope the ladies are ready to rebound strong.

MCScotsFan · February 01, 2008, 04:27:39 PM

I think the absence of Coach Pardue has brought this team together. I think they are becoming more of a team all the time. The Lady Scots are hardly a team I would ever call selfish.

Go Lady Scots!

Big Dog · February 01, 2008, 07:01:51 PM

Playing Piedmont is as close as this group wll get to seeing the NCAA tournament. Everyone who is around this team knows it is a me first squad. As I stated earlier, the upperclassmen have led this selfish charge and when they are gone the Lady Scots will have a better opportunity to be successful. They may win some cup cake games, but anytime this squad is asked to rally they look on the floor and they know they are overstocked with PHONIES! Dee Bell's recruits were overrecruited to come. Sure Plemons helped the cause before she went to wherever basketball mercenaries go when their eligibility runs out, but MC does not need overated Farragut and Maryville High School players to come and give half hearted effort and then complain about the program. Look in the mirror. The Lady Scots need better character and leadership, and I'm not talking about the coach. Piedmont is probably an above average team, and the Lady Scots have a chance. But this squad is calendar counting to see when this season ends, so they don't have to bear the responsibility of their poor performance. Wish I could be more optimistic, but this is easily one of the most disappointing character groups in recent MC history, all sports included. Win or lose, that is the case, and those who follow this group know it.

mcscotsguy · February 01, 2008, 11:19:58 PM

Big Dog....What makes you think you are the foremost expert on the lady scots this year?? Do you work with the team? Are you there day in and day out watching practice, sitting on the sidelines at the games, in the locker room at pregame and halftimes? I mean where do you get off talkin crap about a team that everyone else believes has better morale now than they have all year? You think you could do it...step in and build the program to a national powerhouse...recruit better players than bell? You dont know nearly as much as you think you do...lets be honest.

Big Dog · February 02, 2008, 07:54:24 AM

mcscotsguy,

This program has never been a "national powerhouse." Check the retention rate of Bell (see Plemons) as well as the graduation rate. Morale my friend is one thing, CHARACTER is another. You don't object to a parent of a player posting, why object when someone questions the effort of this team. As far as the mission of Maryville College, I don't think it is to have a national powerhouse in any sport. As far as "lets be honest," I am, and because the truth hurts don't get all bent out of shape. A team that has better morale now "than they have all year" sums it up. You said that. Why has their morale improved so much. Let me tell you why. BECAUSE THE MORALE AND ATTITUDES WERE SO BAD TO BEGIN WITH! And that starts with the players. Hope the ladies play together at Piedmont.

Big Dog · February 02, 2008, 04:16:30 PM

MC scots guy,

I may not be an expert, but at 7:54 Saturday morning I called this game. Called it on january 30th, but losing by ONLY 13 may not be clobbered. For all of you well wishers who think this Lady Scots group is not closing in on my pick as the worst Lady Scots team in recent memory, be real. If Jeanna Dalton wasn't inserted and given time, they would really be headed downstream. Thank goodness Pardue recruited her, as this new blood gives some hope. Before the game my Scottie friend MC Scots guy, they had the best morale they have had all year. Don't blame the coaching of anyone, this team has chosen cliques and peer groups more than winning. Once you go down that road, and our upperclassmen have led the charge, you assimilate others and bring them down to your level. Good job Fowler on hanging in with these malcontents. Sit them down and play for next year when we can right the ship. Piedmont 73-Individuals-60.

MCScotsFan · February 02, 2008, 08:16:03 PM

You think Plemons shows anything about Bell's retention rate? My God, she's played all over the place--from here to there. Ever think maybe Bell did NOT want to keep her?? Coach Bell was a great recruiter for MC. I don't think Pardue was doing too badly himself.
I'll give you one thing, and it is true of many colleged aged kids these day (but certainly not all), they've been helicopter parented, micro-managed, spoiled and it can't be easy to coach these days. This problem will only get worse as the years pass.
Years ago coaches made hard, stiff rules and players followed them. These days you can't do that so easily.

If you think this team is not much of a "team" but individuals, why do you think that is? Leadership starts at the top and trickles down. Flem is not in the position to lead off the bench, Mel is gone and Saxe is too quiet to be the vocal leader and has always said so. So who is going to lead? The ballgirl?! You are right. We need leadership...from the top down. I hope we get it.

Today was the day we needed our three point shooter and Pardue let her go. Mel was probably the best women's player I've seen step on that court in recent years. She could make the shots and understood the game.

Big Dog · February 02, 2008, 08:30:28 PM

Leadership starts at the top and trickles down, and saying you are quiet and not a vocal leader is a cop out. Lead by example. See Alex Bowers. Go play. Quit that sorry from the top down making excuses whining for these players. If we had a better coach blah blah blah. No, if we had a better coach he wouldn't be here, he would work on his resume like Dee Bell and spend his time trying to get a job instead of worrying about taking Plemons for a few months. Blame Pardue for no one making threes. Blame Fowler for something. Blame Lambert for letting this mess go on. Grow up. These kids have not paid the price and now they are reaping what they sowed. They are what we all know them to be. Average players on a dysfunctional team. It is THEIR team, not these mamas who make coaching suggestions on a web site. You know it. I know it. And this team knows it.