WBB: GSAC

MCScotsFan · February 08, 2008, 08:44:48 PM

Quote from: GottaHaveHeart on February 08, 2008, 11:28:19 AM
MCScotsFan:

She...? LOL

Sorry about that. For some reason I always thought you were Alex's mother not her father. Well there's no doubt from your posts you are a man who loves his daughter and that is always good to see.

Again, my apologies.

Looking forward to tomorrow's game and seeing what the ladies bring to the court.

GottaHaveHeart · February 08, 2008, 09:05:07 PM

MCScotsfan:

No apology needed...... My wife smiled though

..... I think others might have thought that too, as there have been references to "mamas posting about their daughters"..... You right, I do love my daughter, with all my heart and soul, and its takes some doing to stay calm when someone attack her for no reason, using my opinion posts on a discussion board as open season, but forgiving is a trait I have grown to appreciate in my older years, keeps my blood pressure down and I get a whole lot more sleep. I have never been lobbying for playing time for her, as a matter of fact, if people would clearly read my posts, I say in each one she is not healthy. Truth is, the wife is why she is not totally shutdown as I mentioned in a earlier post. They out voted me 2/1. Alex is strong, confident and fine, believe me and so am I.

I'm just hoping this team get to where I still believe they can go.
Thanks for understanding!!!!

Anybody attend the game in LaGrange?
Looking at box stats, we played very well. Only 9 TO, 17-19 in FT. Saxe had a big game. Alison and Nat in double figures too. Stats look likes an advantage inside.
Looking at LaGrange stats, what stood out to me was their rebounding. Only one player in double digits in scoring and they didn't shoot the ball that well. They got any size or quickness?

Any insight from anyone

We need this win, as well as the next two, to make sure we lock up the 2 spot.

sewanee tiger · February 09, 2008, 01:05:35 AM

GottaHaveHeart,

Now that things have settled down a little bit, I thought I would throw my two cents into this discussion. Obviously I am not posting to comment on the situation at Maryville. That is none of my business. However, I can certainly voice my displeasure at your unfortunate choice of words on Thursday. I believe your comment was something about how you and four other parents could have beaten Sewanee? Not very nice. Even if you really feel this way, saying so in a public forum like this is very unfair to our girls. Please tell me that this was simply said out of frustration with the way things have been going for the Lady Scots this season.

Before I go any further, late me state for the record that I am not a Sewanee coach or the parent of a player. I am a Sewanee alum who lives in Knoxville and has close ties to our basketball programs. I come to several games at the Cooper Center each season, and not just because our two teams play each other every year. We also have quite a few common opponents, and I enjoy checking those teams out as well. I also read this board on a regular basis, so I am fairly familiar with Maryville's personnel.

I bring up personnel because I know that this is part of your frustration. The Lady Scots are definitely bigger, stronger and more athletic than our girls at every position. Of that there is no doubt. For the second season in a row, our team is very undersized. Maryville also has a deeper bench. I will admit that just looking at the two teams side by side would lead anyone to believe that we should be heavy underdogs.

That said, let's look at some recent history. In the last four seasons (counting this one), Sewanee has defeated the Lady Scots four out of the last six times they have played. Three of those wins came while Dee Bell was still the coach. If we go back a another year ('03-'04 when Maryville beat us twice), then the record is even at 4-4 (3-3 against Dee Bell). Not a bad rivalry, I would say.

Even though looking at scores against common opponents is not a very exact science, I should also point out that we only lost at Piedmont earlier this year by nine points (I believe Maryville lost to them by 11). Last year we beat Piedmont at our place, and we routinely beat Huntingdon, LaGrange and Spelman. My obvious point here is that we are not just an "opponent" that Maryville can expect to steamroll every time we play each other.

Again, none of this is meant to reflect on the Lady Scots. They have been dealt a tough hand this year. Even though I was elated by our victory on Wednedsay, I take no joy in what the Maryville kids are going through. Just trying to give some props to my Lady Tigers. When you are 8-12, any win is huge.

As for Maryville's game with LaGrange, let me offer this fact: when LaGrange came to Sewanee in November, we beat them by 16. I say Maryville wins big on Saturday.

GottaHaveHeart · February 09, 2008, 01:38:11 AM

I apologize if I offended you or anyone else in any way and meant no disrespect toward your players or program. It was a bad choice of words spoke in a moment of pure frustration, which is still no excuse. Your players played hard and deserved the win without a doubt. I am man enough to acknowledge without hesitation when I make a mistake. Sometimes my competitive nature is not a good thing. I will delete that statement from my post immediately.

I wish your players and program continued success.

Pat Coleman · February 09, 2008, 02:59:39 AM

And to give an unbiased assessment, I saw Sewanee play U. Dallas on a neutral floor back in December and Sewanee is a reasonable team. Other than losing at Millsaps and Agnes Scott, I'm not surprised by any of the results on their schedule.

They're not the only team to lose at Agnes Scott, as I understand it, either.

Big Dog · February 09, 2008, 10:32:54 AM

Katie Saxe have a great game today!

Big Dog has spoken

scottiedoug · February 09, 2008, 12:33:05 PM

SewaneeTiger makes a good point in that MC has had trouble beating Sewanee over the last few years, even when the Scots were having really good years. That is why you actually have to play the games!

MCScotsFan · February 09, 2008, 04:01:35 PM

I thought MC had a good game today. I liked seeing more people playing off the bench. I didn't notcie any disrespect going so that is a good thing. Of course, you all see it all differently as i just a fan of the team and enjoy the games while you all know the technical stuff.

GHH, Thanks for being such a class act. Oh and about your parents comment--I've actually uttered those words at my daughter's game out of frustration before. The games can be so frustrating to watch. And esp. this season. It has been mentally a hard season for anyone associated with MC ball.'

Thank God the men are cruising along and making it all look so easy.

GottaHaveHeart · February 09, 2008, 10:08:49 PM

Totally different team today. Played like I know they are capable of all the time which is why it makes it so frustrating to watch sometimes, because I know the talent is there. Lots of energy right from the start. Everybody got to play. Lots of support noise from players not in the game from the bench which you like to see. IMHO, its the first game that it didn't seem to matter to anyone who was in the game. Whatever Fowler said and did the last two days to get them back on the right track, keep doing and saying it. Very nice and important win for the team.

Big Dog · February 10, 2008, 10:31:10 AM

GHH,

The totally different team today was Lagrange. It had nothing to do with the Scots. Sewanee pummeled them by 16, remember. You celebrate beating Lagrange, Wesleyan, Spelman like some giant light has just been turned on. It hasn't, and whatever Fowler did the last two days in practice doesn't really matter, this game's outcome was decided when the schedule was made. Quit throwing in your everybody got to play. They should! The team we are playing can't see .500 from where they are. Important win. You have got to be kidding me. Important wins are beating good teams. Just support the Lady Scots and don't be such a phony and act like this game meant anything more than a chance to improve the w-l record. What got them back on track was playing a bad team. If we played bad teams all year you would be one happy guy, as we would always be on track. You just don't get it.

mcscotsguy · February 10, 2008, 12:37:28 PM

wow...man big dog...takes a lot to satisfy you huh? Well i gotta say i understand both posts there. GHH...yeah the lady scots needed a win regardless of who it was against. The team did look more unified and I liked that starting line up! Rouvelas played well I thought. Actually I felt like the guard play all around was stronger...they didnt rely on the 3 bigs nearly as much as usual. There are positives to take out of that contest without a doubt. However...I do see Big Dog's point. It might not have been a "big win"...but it was a good win. I'm not sure there are bad ones. I hope they can take the next two and then take piedmont at home on the 23rd. That would be great momentum going into the gsac tournament.

GottaHaveHeart · February 10, 2008, 03:36:37 PM

My "important" win statement is based on the fact that if we beat LaGrange (which we did and should have) and Huntingdon and Spelman, (which we should beat both)..we will lock in the #2 seed. I would say the #2 seed is important. Truth is, they did look better than against Sewanee. Truth is, the only half way good team in our conference, besides us, is Piedmont, so I don't know how you want us to beat any good teams if they are not left on our schedule to play. Yea, I remember we got beat by Sewanee, and I openly voiced my opinion and displeasure about that. I have always openly said I felt everybody should get an opportunity to play, so when it happens, yea, I'm going to mention it because I think it's a good thing. I realize we didn't beat UT.

As for your "phony" statement, you seem to fit the bill more than me. One minute you posting" if they can pull together for one month a NCAA berth is still there, you believe there is still some fight in the Lady Scots, good karma, our girls need our support." These are your posts! Yet now you critical of me because I compliment them on winning a game, regardless of who it was, they won. Be appreciative of that! They could have lost. They got to start somewhere. I think winning against whoever is better than losing.

I'm not fooling myself. I know / (doubt) we are not going to make the Final 4.....but I still say us and Piedmont in the finals. Locking in the 2 seed should guarantee a spot in the finals. One game.....lets see what happens.....but first thing first.

MCScotsFan · February 10, 2008, 04:57:32 PM

See, I agree with you, GHH and MCScotsguy. Those ladies needed a win yesterday. It was important--mostly to their minds I think. If they can have a few wins before PC comes to MC, then they'll be a heck of a lot better off.
I loved seeing everyone play. I alsothought Alexis did a good job yesterday.

I wouldn't be so sure it was what Fowler said to the women. That's all I'll say about that.

sewanee tiger · February 10, 2008, 05:16:39 PM

GHH,
Thanks very much for your reponse yesterday to my post, and no harm done. I was certain that you didn't mean what you wrote. Knowing about the Lady Scots situation in general, and Alex in particular, I can understand the basis for your frustration.

As for Alex, let me offer up our junior point guard, Acacia Mack (#5), as encouragement. Acacia missed her entire freshman season due to a foot injury that required surgery. It then took most of her sophomore season to feel comfortable in a game situation. As a junior, she has been rock solid for us at the point (10 points last Wednesday). Hopefully Alex will have a similar junior season, and beyond.

Sounds like a good win for the Lady Scots yesterday. Wish I could say the same for us (61-77 loss at Oglethorpe).

Anyway, good luck with the rest of the season, especially against Piedmont.

Big Dog · February 10, 2008, 07:23:14 PM

mcscots guy,

Never met a coach who had to tell a team they that they were playing a team that was-quite simply-not as good. No magic remedy between Sewannee game and Lagrange except for Lagrange has struggled mightily this year. Pull up their schedule and see the results. Not too impressive. Getting better is more important than racking up w's. Basketball is a tournament game and we can better evaluate improvement in the conference tourney-when it matters. Go Lady Scots! The only reason we secured a win is because, quite frankly, the opponent. They had more to do with it than we did. Were you guys not watching the same game I was?