The Undefeated and the Winless

[Pat Coleman]

Well, you know, technically once the ball hits the floor the rebound can't be given to an individual.  Maybe that's it.

This is not anywhere near true.

A deadball rebound is an accounting tool. Every missed shot must have a rebound, including the first of two free throws. That's where deadball rebounds come from.

Rebounds that are knocked out of bounds are team rebounds and are awarded to the team that is awarded possession.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I didn't say it was right, I just offered it as a possibility.  I guess once again the sarcasm doesn't work so well on this thing.  I apologize.

[smedindy]

Ah, Hoops Fan, the thing is that there are some people, sportswriters even, who believe what you believe. One local sports editor around here is always 9 or 10 rebounds short of a full slate of them because of this.

I got into a heated arguement with the self-appointed statistician for a local high school, who gave a player a 'recovery' if they grabbed the ball after a missed shot after it hit the floor.

When I showed him an official NCAA box, he scoffed at it. Sigh...

Now, a deadball rebound can also occur after a shot clock violation (the ball is shot before the clock but the shot draws air and the buzzer goes off - it's a defensive deadball rebound) and if the ball gets wedged in the basket support or hits the shot clock or guide wire holding up the basket. Or at a heave at the end of the half.

And now that I've bored you...

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Right.  That's exactly why I said it.  It was supposed to be a sarcastic remark about all the people who I've had tell me that at games.  However, sarcasm, when typed, just makes one look like a fool.

[smedindy]

Ah, unless you use... ...or  or 

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Going back to really weird boxscores, there were two really bad games in my CCC Conference last night with Anna Maria beating Eastern Nazarene and Wentworth beating New England College.  The crazy thing is that between these four schools, there were 178 rebounds!!


http://www.annamaria.edu/athletics/results/enc11mb.htm

http://www.wit.edu/Athletics/varsity/basketball_m/0607/MBBGM11.HTM

[Greek Tragedy]

It's been awhile since I updated this.

By my count

Poster	Team	Elimination
Sac	Amherst (12-0)	Nxt Gm:  at Tufts 1/12
FlyingDutchFan	Calvin	L 76-54 to Hope 11/25
hope1	Hope	L 71-65 to Carthage F 12/1
Mr. Ypsi	Ill. Wes.	L 87-74 to Ohio Wes 11/24
oldreporter	King's Point	L 107-85 to Kean 11/21
larry u	Lawrence	L 70-67 to Stevens Point 11/21
David Collinge	Maryville (TN)	L 93-82 to Emory 11/26
Hoops Fan	Miss. College	L 84-82 OT to Wesley (MS) 11/20
MC Boy	Miss. College	L 84-82 OT to Wesley (MS) 11/20
Ralph Turner	Miss. College	L 84-82 OT to Wesley (MS) 11/20
Cardinal Alum	North Central	L 85-69 to Aurora T 11/28
Cardinal Pride	North Central	L 85-69 to Aurora T 11/28
Gregory Sager	NYU	Lost 68-64  at Carnegie Mellon Fri 1/5
digs	Occidental	L 72-63 to St. Thomas 11/17
unbearable	Rhode Island	L 82-78 to Keene St. S 12/2
Hoopsnews	Salem St.	L 85-73 to Roger Williams 11/18
Titan Q	Virginia Wes.	L 81-73 to Averett 11/27
WLCalum83	Whitewater	L 69-68 OT to Ill. Wes. 11/18
Old School	Whitworth (13-0)	Nxt Gm:  vs Puget Sound Fri 1/12
Smedindy	Wittenberg	L 68-65 to Wooster Sat. 12/9
Point Special	Wooster	L 94-89 to Cal. Baptist 12/27
wooscotsfan	Wooster	L 94-89 to Cal. Baptist 12/27
hopefan	WPI	L 87-78 to Salem St. 11/26
PSBBallGuy	York (PA)	L 71-69 to Villa Julie 11/18

Amherst plays on the East Coast and their game will be done first! lol

[smedindy]

Hoops fan - that's a lot of iron. I bet the clanging sound is still resonating in the fans' ears today....

[sac]

I'm very sad to report the Alma Scots have fallen off our list of winless vs D3 with a 64-56 win over Kalamazoo in Alma.

[David Collinge]

Caltech rediscovers its essential Caltechness tonight, losing at Occidental 103-40. 

[smedindy]

Ah, well, they were still high from the big win...

Either that or they have killer labs tomorrow...

[hopefan]

yes, we lose Alma as I thought might happen, but Thomas More , Huntindon and LAverne all continue their losing ways.

Winless teams from New England play tonight  -  Albertus and East Naz play Emerson and Rog Williams respectively, with little chance to disappoint us.  Wad3 leader Green Mountain plays a very weak Newbury team, but it's doubtful that Green Mountain will get their first d3 win.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Updated as of 1/11/2007


Undefeated ( 3 )
Amherst (12-0)
Bates (11-0)
Whitworth (13-0)


Undefeated vs d3 ( 5 )
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (9-3, losses to NAIA's Westmont, Concordia-California and Point Loma Nazarene)
Lake Erie (11-1, loss to d2 Findlay)
Mississippi College (11-1, loss to NCCAA Wesley College of Mississippi)
Redlands (8-3, losses to NAIA's Biola and Hope International and d2 Cal State-LA)
UW-Stevens Point (14-1, loss to d2 Northern Michigan)


Winless vs d3 ( 7 )
Colorado College (1-15, win over ACCA Life Pacific)
*Crown (1-8, win over NCCAA Trinity Bible)
*Green Mountain (1-9, win over NAIA Paul Smith's)
Huntingdon (1-13, win over NCCAA Atlanta Christian)
La Verne (1-11, win over ACCA Life Pacific)
*Lincoln Christian (1-6, win over NCCAA Great Lakes Christian)
*Minnesota-Morris (2-9, win over d2 Minnesota-Crookston and over NCCAA North Central (MN))


Winless ( 5 )
Albertus Magnus (0-8)
Eastern Nazarene (0-10)
*Penn State-Berks (0-11)
Principia (0-7)
Thomas More (0-14)


*Signifies a provisional school

[Greek Tragedy]

Caltech rediscovers its essential Caltechness tonight, losing at Occidental 103-40. 

Maranatha Baptist lost to Whitewater earlier this week, 92-27...they were down 46-6 at half time.  At least Caltech scored 35 when they played Whitewater during the 03-04 season (though they gave up 123!)

[hopefan]

East Naz loses by 37 to Roger Williams last night, and Green Mountain upholds there No 1 slot by losing at home to Newbury by 23.  That's a great loss, as Newbury appears to be ...AWFUL.

Albertus Magnus is not yet reporting their score, but if they play, it's a safe bet they lost.