The Undefeated and the Winless

[Gregory Sager]

I don't know if it's been changed, but in the past the decision to participate in the NCCAA postseason tournament has not been an obstacle for any NCCAA program that has dual affiliation. That is to say, unlike the NCAA or the NAIA, you didn't have to burn your bridges to your other affiliate when you declared yourself eligible for the NCCAA postseason, and the NCCAA was happy to let you in as a consolation prize for your program if you failed to make either the NCAA or NAIA tournament.

[RustCollege]

Winless...Rust

Will we ever know if Rust wins a game?

now somebody have jokes Rust do not go winless...look up Rust on D3hoops and you will see Rust never goes winless

[magicman]

Winless...Rust

Will we ever know if Rust wins a game?

now somebody have jokes Rust do not go winless...look up Rust on D3hoops and you will see Rust never goes winless

And.... Rust never sleeps. Apologies to Neil.

[ADL70]

Winless...Rust

Will we ever know if Rust wins a game?

now somebody have jokes Rust do not go winless...look up Rust on D3hoops and you will see Rust never goes winless

And.... Rust never sleeps. Apologies to Neil.

And to Rust-oleum

[gordonmann]

Rust has a new website, which we've linked to, thanks to the Rust women's coach who contacted us.

[smedindy]

I don't know if it's been changed, but in the past the decision to participate in the NCCAA postseason tournament has not been an obstacle for any NCCAA program that has dual affiliation. That is to say, unlike the NCAA or the NAIA, you didn't have to burn your bridges to your other affiliate when you declared yourself eligible for the NCCAA postseason, and the NCCAA was happy to let you in as a consolation prize for your program if you failed to make either the NCAA or NAIA tournament.

But does the NCAA allow those who already declare for the NCCAA tourney into their party?

[Gregory Sager]

I think so, because the NCCAA does not demand exclusivity the way that the NAIA does. And I've never heard of a case of an NCCAA/NCAA dual affiliate turning down the latter's tourney in order to participate in the former's.

[David Collinge]

Rust has a new website, which we've linked to, thanks to the Rust women's coach who contacted us.

Glad to hear it. I have been a fan of Rust for many years, since back when I lived in Memphis and passed through Holly Springs on frequent trips down US78.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Well, if I can't have Iowa Wesleyan, I guess I'll take Northlands.  I don't think they've been taken.

[Greek Tragedy]

Well, if I can't have Iowa Wesleyan, I guess I'll take Northlands.  I don't think they've been taken.

I have a friend named Jule. My mom always called him "Jules". I always told her, "mom, its 'Jule', there's only one of them." 

I guess the FINAL RULING is:

If they are provisional,  they don't qualify. Otherwise, if the NVAA deems them worthy, so do we.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

I think this is the current list of picks.

Undefeated
FCGrizzliesGrad: Albertus Magnus (1)
magicman: Plattsburgh St
smedindy: Wooster
Gregory Sager: Amherst
ronk: Scranton
hopefan: Augustana
Greek Tragedy: Webster
KnightSlappy: Calvin
Mr. Ypsi: UW-Whitewater
7express: SUNY-Purchase
Ralph Turner: UT-Dallas
augie77: Stevenson
CityD3: Albertus Magnus (2)
dahlby: Whitworth
Hoops Fan: Eastern Nazarene
John Gleich: Illinois Wesleyan

Winless
FCGrizzliesGrad: Pine Manor
magicman: Caltech
smedindy: D'Youville
Gregory Sager: Cairn (1)
hopefan: Principia
ronk: Wilson
KnightSlappy: Frostburg St
Mr. Ypsi: Iowa Wesleyan Northland (2) (replaced provisional)
7express: Blackburn Knox (changed pick)
augie77: Northland (1)
CityD3: Sarah Lawrence (provisional)
dahlby: Rust
Hoops Fan: Cairn (2)
John Gleich: Maranantha Baptist
Greek Tragedy: U of New England

[magicman]

I still don't think Pine Manor is an official team and believe they are a club team. I'll try and find out more later today.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

They are on d3hoops.com as having a team. Their site says nothing about being a club team. Maybe Pat has a ruling on them.

The trip to Buffalo is on Pine Manor's schedule, but they are no longer on Buff State's.

15 minutes in and there's Controversy. Cue Prince...

Maybe the coaches just wanted an 'out' for playing a team they'd roll by 60 or so?

Plattsburgh's Coach Curle knew he'd win the game by a huge margin and he was fine with that until he found out that it wouldn't count as a game because of Pine Manor's club status. That's when both SUNYAC schools cancelled their games. Beating up on a D3 team that's not very good is one thing but if the win doesn't count as a win then what's the point?

The Buffalo St thing is back on according to Buff St. The "tournament" is now a 3 team round robin Nov 20-22 between Buff St, Point Park, and Pine Manor

I've read absolutely nothing about them being a club team and don't see why they would be considered as such. They're a full fledged D3 school starting a mens basketball program. I don't see them being any different than Wilson.
According to their website it's listed as a varsity sport like all their other sports.

[wooscotsfan]

Undefeated:  Wooster

Winless:  Willamette

[Gregory Sager]

Well, if I can't have Iowa Wesleyan, I guess I'll take Northlands.  I don't think they've been taken.

I have a friend named Jule. My mom always called him "Jules". I always told her, "mom, its 'Jule', there's only one of them." 

Similarly, St. Norbert von Gennep (1080-1134) never actually owned or possessed in any way the school in northeastern Wisconsin that's named after him.