FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Comet 14]

O.K. Here it goes. I normally am not the kind of person to research a bunch of stats but this is the best I could do on short notice. Burris I could only get stats for 99 season off Carthage web site Burris had 8 t.d.'s 549 total yards( 10th overall, all positions including reciever/returners) 549 yards rushing 3rd overall the conference and 595 all purpose yards ranked him 7. On a team that finished 6th out of 8 teams in offense. Career scoring in conference he had 40 T.D's and 246 points, Both carthage records. In comparison IL. Weslyan 27 T.D.'s Maury Parker, 384 pts Chris Bissaillon( kicker) two different people. Millikin-277 point by Andy Beals and 44 T.D's by Deon Packer two different people. N.C. 206 career points by Steve Holden no career T.D.'s on web site. N.P. 156 points Jon Harris, 25 T.D.'s also Jon Harris. Wheaton 45 T.D.'s by Chuck Schoener and 286 points by Mark Loeffler two different people. I could not find any career stats from Augie, I will assume they are better than Burris's. But all in all I would say he was pretty damn good. End of discussion.

[lakeshore]

Anyone have info on the NPU v Chicago game from last night?

Update from last night's NPU vs. UC scrimmage

2 very average teams in my estimation.  The 1's played an entire first half before giving way to the 2's and 3's for a 3rd and final quarter of play.

At the end of the 1st half it was 7-7.

The coaches also mixed in some situational special teams and 2 minute drills that were pretty exciting.

NPU's QB, soph Shelby Wood has a chance to be as good as there is in the CCIW.  At one point my colleague and I had him at 16 for 18 passing.  He was very efficient and accurate and only made one error throwing a pic late in the half into heavy traffic deep in UC territory.

The Vikes have some serious speed in the recieving corps and secondary.  3 JUCO guys have provided some spark to those units.  COD transfer Chris Durr hauled in a spectacualr 45 yard score from Wood for the Vikes only td of the 1st half.

Unfortunately like previous NPU teams they are lacking size and strength in the trenches. 

Chicago would struggle to win 1 game in the CCIW but might fare decent in their own conference.

The stands were packed with students and parents in what seemed like a game day turnout for a scrimmage.

We will see how much NPU is improved next Sat. night vs. BU.

Great weather and a great college football atmosphere....for a SCRIMMAGE!!!

[Mugsy]

Does anyone see a reason that it wont be a 4-0 Wheaton vs. a 4-0 North Central Next month??

1. Injuries to key personal between now and then...
2. Upsets/losses to good (not great) competition in non-conference games (Hope & Albion for Wheaton and Concordia Wis. for NCC)

Comparing the level of competition for the first 4 opponents, I give NCC a slightly higher probability of running the table leading to the game against Wheaton.

But yes... on paper they both should be 4-0 on Oct. 6th.

[devildog29]

O.K. Here it goes. I normally am not the kind of person to research a bunch of stats but this is the best I could do on short notice. Burris I could only get stats for 99 season off Carthage web site Burris had 8 t.d.'s 549 total yards( 10th overall, all positions including reciever/returners) 549 yards rushing 3rd overall the conference and 595 all purpose yards ranked him 7. On a team that finished 6th out of 8 teams in offense. Career scoring in conference he had 40 T.D's and 246 points, Both carthage records. In comparison IL. Weslyan 27 T.D.'s Maury Parker, 384 pts Chris Bissaillon( kicker) two different people. Millikin-277 point by Andy Beals and 44 T.D's by Deon Packer two different people. N.C. 206 career points by Steve Holden no career T.D.'s on web site. N.P. 156 points Jon Harris, 25 T.D.'s also Jon Harris. Wheaton 45 T.D.'s by Chuck Schoener and 286 points by Mark Loeffler two different people. I could not find any career stats from Augie, I will assume they are better than Burris's. But all in all I would say he was pretty damn good. End of discussion.

Comet, I agree, he was a good back regardless of how good the rest of the team was.  If you are all-conference 4 years in the CCIW, you are good.  No ifs, ands, or buts about it.  Just one bit of clarification on your stats though, Chris Basaillon was not a kicker.  He was one of the best goalline receivers in the CCIW in the last 20 years if not longer.  Until a couple years ago, he had the NCAA career record for touchdown receptions, which was held by Jerry Rice prior to that.  A kid from a 1-AA school broke the record a year or two ago.  I think he might have even been in the Bears camp this year?  Not sure on that, but I'm sure someone else on here knows for sure. 

On another note, I look forward to meeting the Carthage folks who are making the trip out here to the left coast in a couple weeks.

[Comet 14]

Thanks for the clarification Devildog. Thats why I don't do the stats thing very often. I'm not very good at it.

[NCC_alum62]

Does anyone see a reason that it wont be a 4-0 Wheaton vs. a 4-0 North Central Next month??

1. Injuries to key personal between now and then...
2. Upsets/losses to good (not great) competition in non-conference games (Hope & Albion for Wheaton and Concordia Wis. for NCC)

Comparing the level of competition for the first 4 opponents, I give NCC a slightly higher probability of running the table leading to the game against Wheaton.

But yes... on paper they both should be 4-0 on Oct. 6th.

I believe both will be 4-0 going into thier matchup.  There isn't anything that comes to mind that makes me think they won't be.

NCC has to play CUW in WI and it is CUW's second game of the year which Ithink really gives them an advantage going into the game.  The difference between this year and last year though, is that NCC actually had a scrimmage and know that CUW is a quality team and what they will run on O and D.

I still think the Cards will win that game.

Wheaton plays Michigan conference champ Hope, but that team was 0-4 in non-conference and play-off competition last year and Wheaton is going to win that game.  Hope does have an impressive D, but I think the Thunder have an even more impressive D and a better O including a strong O-Line, returning QB with experience, and very good skill players.  They may miss Black's aility to be the power-type back, but I'm sure the Wheaton faithful will give us more updates after the scrimmage.

I hope both teams are 4-0 heading to the showdown in N'ville, should make for an excellent game. GET THE BELL

[Mugsy]

I believe both will be 4-0 going into thier matchup.  There isn't anything that comes to mind that makes me think they won't be.

I hope both teams are 4-0 heading to the showdown in N'ville, should make for an excellent game. GET THE BELL

I failed to mention that I believe they will both be 4-0, I just gave some reasons why they might not.

And THE BELL STAYS

[usee]

Anyone have info on the NPU v Chicago game from last night?

Update from last night's NPU vs. UC scrimmage

2 very average teams in my estimation.  The 1's played an entire first half before giving way to the 2's and 3's for a 3rd and final quarter of play.

At the end of the 1st half it was 7-7.

The coaches also mixed in some situational special teams and 2 minute drills that were pretty exciting.

NPU's QB, soph Shelby Wood has a chance to be as good as there is in the CCIW.  At one point my colleague and I had him at 16 for 18 passing.  He was very efficient and accurate and only made one error throwing a pic late in the half into heavy traffic deep in UC territory.

The Vikes have some serious speed in the recieving corps and secondary.  3 JUCO guys have provided some spark to those units.  COD transfer Chris Durr hauled in a spectacualr 45 yard score from Wood for the Vikes only td of the 1st half.

Unfortunately like previous NPU teams they are lacking size and strength in the trenches. 

Chicago would struggle to win 1 game in the CCIW but might fare decent in their own conference.

The stands were packed with students and parents in what seemed like a game day turnout for a scrimmage.

We will see how much NPU is improved next Sat. night vs. BU.

Great weather and a great college football atmosphere....for a SCRIMMAGE!!!

Thanks Lakeshore. some good information from someone who actually attended.

It will be interesting to see how the NPU qb does against CCIW db's. I was impressed with him last year at NPU. I expect him to be a bright spot for NPU this year. I also liked their freshman or soph (can't remember) runningback who was big and powerful.

I am sure NPU will be a better team this year than they have been.

[usee]

O.K. Here it goes. I normally am not the kind of person to research a bunch of stats but this is the best I could do on short notice. Burris I could only get stats for 99 season off Carthage web site Burris had 8 t.d.'s 549 total yards( 10th overall, all positions including reciever/returners) 549 yards rushing 3rd overall the conference and 595 all purpose yards ranked him 7. On a team that finished 6th out of 8 teams in offense. Career scoring in conference he had 40 T.D's and 246 points, Both carthage records. In comparison IL. Weslyan 27 T.D.'s Maury Parker, 384 pts Chris Bissaillon( kicker) two different people. Millikin-277 point by Andy Beals and 44 T.D's by Deon Packer two different people. N.C. 206 career points by Steve Holden no career T.D.'s on web site. N.P. 156 points Jon Harris, 25 T.D.'s also Jon Harris. Wheaton 45 T.D.'s by Chuck Schoener and 286 points by Mark Loeffler two different people. I could not find any career stats from Augie, I will assume they are better than Burris's. But all in all I would say he was pretty damn good. End of discussion.

Comet, I agree, he was a good back regardless of how good the rest of the team was.  If you are all-conference 4 years in the CCIW, you are good.  No ifs, ands, or buts about it.  Just one bit of clarification on your stats though, Chris Basaillon was not a kicker.  He was one of the best goalline receivers in the CCIW in the last 20 years if not longer.  Until a couple years ago, he had the NCAA career record for touchdown receptions, which was held by Jerry Rice prior to that.  A kid from a 1-AA school broke the record a year or two ago.  I think he might have even been in the Bears camp this year?  Not sure on that, but I'm sure someone else on here knows for sure. 

On another note, I look forward to meeting the Carthage folks who are making the trip out here to the left coast in a couple weeks.

Basaillon was statistically the best reciever ever in the CCIW. he wasn't just a goal line guy he was a stud top to bottom. Those were some tough IWU teams and Basaillon is as good a reciever this league has ever seen. That's a tall order with some of the guys that have come through.

[devildog29]

O.K. Here it goes. I normally am not the kind of person to research a bunch of stats but this is the best I could do on short notice. Burris I could only get stats for 99 season off Carthage web site Burris had 8 t.d.'s 549 total yards( 10th overall, all positions including reciever/returners) 549 yards rushing 3rd overall the conference and 595 all purpose yards ranked him 7. On a team that finished 6th out of 8 teams in offense. Career scoring in conference he had 40 T.D's and 246 points, Both carthage records. In comparison IL. Weslyan 27 T.D.'s Maury Parker, 384 pts Chris Bissaillon( kicker) two different people. Millikin-277 point by Andy Beals and 44 T.D's by Deon Packer two different people. N.C. 206 career points by Steve Holden no career T.D.'s on web site. N.P. 156 points Jon Harris, 25 T.D.'s also Jon Harris. Wheaton 45 T.D.'s by Chuck Schoener and 286 points by Mark Loeffler two different people. I could not find any career stats from Augie, I will assume they are better than Burris's. But all in all I would say he was pretty damn good. End of discussion.

Comet, I agree, he was a good back regardless of how good the rest of the team was.  If you are all-conference 4 years in the CCIW, you are good.  No ifs, ands, or buts about it.  Just one bit of clarification on your stats though, Chris Basaillon was not a kicker.  He was one of the best goalline receivers in the CCIW in the last 20 years if not longer.  Until a couple years ago, he had the NCAA career record for touchdown receptions, which was held by Jerry Rice prior to that.  A kid from a 1-AA school broke the record a year or two ago.  I think he might have even been in the Bears camp this year?  Not sure on that, but I'm sure someone else on here knows for sure. 

On another note, I look forward to meeting the Carthage folks who are making the trip out here to the left coast in a couple weeks.

Basaillon was statistically the best reciever ever in the CCIW. he wasn't just a goal line guy he was a stud top to bottom. Those were some tough IWU teams and Basaillon is as good a reciever this league has ever seen. That's a tall order with some of the guys that have come through.

Usee, I do agree, he was a stud receiver all over the field.  I just didn't want to come off as too much of a homer, what with as touchy as everyone has been lately champing at the bit for the season to start.  I was trying to stay a bit tempered with my comment.  But to my point, I can't think of anyone better in the CCIW that could run that goalline fade pattern to the corner of the endzone.  He was unstoppable in those situations.

[DIIIinVA]

I have to agree on Bassaillon.  He was great in the red zone, ran an awesome fade route but he was far from just a goal line WR.  Not super tall but a good leaper, a superb athlete with great hands and good speed, he used his body better than any other DIII WR I have seen, and ran the most precise routes as well.  Tough as nails too.  Wheaton's Brian Lazear laid a hit on him across the middle in a 1991 game that would have sent me to the hospital, but after staying down a minute or two Bassaillon walked off, and IIRC he was back in the game the next series.  That game still kills me.  Wheaton's only loss in a 7-1-1 season (tied Millikin).  Kept  us out of the playoffs.

[football2007]

Just wanted to say good luck to all the teams tonight.  Since there are no conference games hope every CCIW team comes back with a win.  Can't wait to go to my first college football game.

[Son of Tailgater]

Good Luck to all CCIW teams today. I know there is a conference battle in about 4 weeks but even when I played we always wanted the CCIW teams to start 3-0 in non-conference games. I will be up in Kenosha today for the Carthage vs. Carroll game and will give a report when I get back home.

[WahooThunder]

Halftime in Wheaton:

Wheaton 10, Wabash 0

Ullrich 16-21, 185 yds, 1 INT

Jackson 13 car., 33 yds. 1 TD

Pokorny 4 rec. 53 yds.

Ittersagen, INT, TFL, 1 PR for about 10 yds.

McKenney, TFL, FF, several tackles

Studebaker has not played

Ellingsen 41 yd FG 1-1 XP

Final stats to come after game.

[football2007]

great article by the way in the daily herald on friday about wheaton's studebaker.  Couldn't find it on line to link.  anyone else read it.