FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[pg04]

OK So when you don't win your conference I guess we'll see what games are looked at in deciding a playoff bid. 

[usee]

OK So when you don't win your conference I guess we'll see what games are looked at in deciding a playoff bid. 

I cheer for Wheaton. The Thunder are definately going to win their "preseason" games as well as the conference. Just ask the naperville school fans

[Pat Coleman]

You can call it that, but you'd be just plain wrong.

They are non-conference games. Preseason games do not count in the team's win-loss records -- if you have any question about that, check your NFL standings, the ones with one game, not five or six.

You are right, I can call it that. And I will thanks. won't be the first time I'm wrong. And these games won't count in the CCIW standings. If you have any question about that you can go to www.cciw.org/football and check the standings, the ones that say 0-0.

Pretty sad that you couldn't come up with that lame retort the first time and you had to edit it to add that.

Wonder why the CCIW bothers to list those pesky "overall" games if they aren't part of the season.

[usee]

You can call it that, but you'd be just plain wrong.

They are non-conference games. Preseason games do not count in the team's win-loss records -- if you have any question about that, check your NFL standings, the ones with one game, not five or six.

You are right, I can call it that. And I will thanks. won't be the first time I'm wrong. And these games won't count in the CCIW standings. If you have any question about that you can go to www.cciw.org/football and check the standings, the ones that say 0-0.

Pretty sad that you couldn't come up with that lame retort the first time and you had to edit it to add that.

Wonder why the CCIW bothers to list those pesky "overall" games if they aren't part of the season.

actually Pat, I added the second part (after my part about being wrong) when I edited it. and what's sad is that you have nothing better to add to a discussion than dispute someones semantics.

[usee]

You can call it that, but you'd be just plain wrong.

They are non-conference games. Preseason games do not count in the team's win-loss records -- if you have any question about that, check your NFL standings, the ones with one game, not five or six.

You are right, I can call it that. And I will thanks. won't be the first time I'm wrong. And these games won't count in the CCIW standings. If you have any question about that you can go to www.cciw.org/football and check the standings, the ones that say 0-0.

Pretty sad that you couldn't come up with that lame retort the first time and you had to edit it to add that.

Wonder why the CCIW bothers to list those pesky "overall" games if they aren't part of the season.

and fine then, i will now refer to them as overall games in honor of you. 

[Pat Coleman]

You can call it that, but you'd be just plain wrong.

They are non-conference games. Preseason games do not count in the team's win-loss records -- if you have any question about that, check your NFL standings, the ones with one game, not five or six.

You are right, I can call it that. And I will thanks. won't be the first time I'm wrong. And these games won't count in the CCIW standings. If you have any question about that you can go to www.cciw.org/football and check the standings, the ones that say 0-0.

Pretty sad that you couldn't come up with that lame retort the first time and you had to edit it to add that.

Wonder why the CCIW bothers to list those pesky "overall" games if they aren't part of the season.

actually Pat, I added the second part (after my part about being wrong) when I edited it. and what's sad is that you have nothing better to add to a discussion than dispute someones semantics.

I have plenty of things to do. Never you worry.

But it's not semantics. It's just plain facts.

[usee]

You can call it that, but you'd be just plain wrong.

They are non-conference games. Preseason games do not count in the team's win-loss records -- if you have any question about that, check your NFL standings, the ones with one game, not five or six.

You are right, I can call it that. And I will thanks. won't be the first time I'm wrong. And these games won't count in the CCIW standings. If you have any question about that you can go to www.cciw.org/football and check the standings, the ones that say 0-0.

Pretty sad that you couldn't come up with that lame retort the first time and you had to edit it to add that.

Wonder why the CCIW bothers to list those pesky "overall" games if they aren't part of the season.

actually Pat, I added the second part (after my part about being wrong) when I edited it. and what's sad is that you have nothing better to add to a discussion than dispute someones semantics.

I have plenty of things to do. Never you worry.

But it's not semantics. It's just plain facts.

"your honor, I strenously object"

[Pat Coleman]

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source
pre·sea·son       (prē'sē'zən)  Pronunciation Key
n.   The period immediately before the start of a new season, in which athletes undergo intensive training and participate in exhibition games.

[usee]

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source
pre·sea·son       (prē'sē'zən)  Pronunciation Key
n.   The period immediately before the start of a new season, in which athletes undergo intensive training and participate in exhibition games.

like I said, they don't count in the CCIW schedule. Thanks for proving my point.

[pg04]

This is all one big circular reference...this conversation may never end if someone doesn't stop 

[usee]

In other news, North Park lost its first overall game of the season and that's a bad omen, losing to Benedictine 14-0. I was hopeful NPU would make some progress this year but losing like this to that team does not bode well for the north siders.

[Mr. Ypsi]

usee (and pg04),

Early alert: On CCIW Chat, Pat is recruiting Greg Sager (whose #1 pet peeve is those posters who conflate 'preseason' and 'nonconference' in bball) to join the fray!  [Not sure if he posts on Sunday nights; you may have dodged the bullet!]

[burly]

This is all one big circular reference...this conversation may never end if someone doesn't stop 

but very helpful for increasing total number of posts....

[burly]

also, I saw Rowson wasn't playing on OLine. is he hurt?

What I heard originally was that he hurt his knee, yet he played almost 3 quarters against Wabash in the scrimmage.  I was completely surprised to see him playing against Wabash.

I haven't heard anything about his status.

Rowson was at the game, but was not on the sideline and did not travel with the team.  My understanding at this point is that he will be back for the game against Hope, but I don't know the exact circumstances behind his absence. 

smells like a suspension.

[Gregory Sager]

usee (and pg04),

Early alert: On CCIW Chat, Pat is recruiting Greg Sager (whose #1 pet peeve is those posters who conflate 'preseason' and 'nonconference' in bball) to join the fray!  [Not sure if he posts on Sunday nights; you may have dodged the bullet!]

Pat doesn't need my help. He's explained the facts perfectly well without me.

While I'm disappointed in NPU's loss to Benedictine -- particularly in light of the thumping Elmhurst dealt the Bennies last week -- it's more of a treading-water loss than a disaster. It may even be a slight improvement over last year's result. Last fall Benedictine beat NPU 22-6, and the only score that the Vikings managed was late in the fourth quarter when BU was presumably beginning to sub in on defense. In last year's game the Bennies thoroughly dominated NPU statistically; 23 first downs to 5, and 397 total yards of offense to 110. This year North Park largely evened out the stats; BU won the first-down battle by only a 15-13 margin, and the total offensive yards were a much more even 259-191 in Benedictine's favor.

Still, it's a two-touchdown loss to a go-nowhere team from an inferior league, and in light of what the Bluejays did to BU it's a sobering benchmark for just how far the Vikes have to go in order to notch a W in league play this season.

Wish I had been in town to see the game, though. NPU's first regular-season home football game under the lights ... must've been a lot of fun to watch.