FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[matblake]

matblake,

How much NCC beats Augie by is irrelevant for the tiebreak - Augie can't tie for the title.  How much NCC beats IWU by (did I just type that? ) could (help) determine the AQ.  Unless Wheaton loses twice (possible, but unlikely IMO), NCC's only chance is to beat IWU by more than 4, and have IWU beat Wheaton by less than whatever NCC's margin over IWU is.

Doh, your right!  I think I got a little ahead of myself, or behind myself   .........However, what you say is just a feasible as anything else at this point.  North Central isn't out of this thing yet, especially if they keep winning.

[Mr. Ypsi]

matblake,

How much NCC beats Augie by is irrelevant for the tiebreak - Augie can't tie for the title.  How much NCC beats IWU by (did I just type that? ) could (help) determine the AQ.  Unless Wheaton loses twice (possible, but unlikely IMO), NCC's only chance is to beat IWU by more than 4, and have IWU beat Wheaton by less than whatever NCC's margin over IWU is.

Doh, your right!  I think I got a little ahead of myself, or behind myself   .........However, what you say is just a feasible as anything else at this point.  North Central isn't out of this thing yet, especially if they keep winning.

Since Augie was almost universally expected to contend, and IWU was almost universally NOT, blame it on 'having a flashback'!

[Mugsy]

Regional rankings are out.  Wheaton is #2 in the North Region, IWU is #10.

[Mr. Ypsi]

While I am (obviously) pleased that IWU, rather than NCC, slipped into the rankings, I'm somewhat surprised.  They are identical in regional winning %, NCC is slightly ahead in OWP, while IWU is slightly more ahead in OOWP.  I think it must come down to record against ranked opponents: IWU is 0-1 (MSJ), NCC is 0-2 (Wheaton, plus WashU who is #9 in the West).

[CardinalAlum]

Only if we get to pick each other's name!

If you need any suggestions for new names, I'm sure the rest will chime in!!   

[CardinalAlum]

Since Augie was almost universally expected to contend, and IWU was almost universally NOT, blame it on 'having a flashback'!

Speaking of flashbacks....I would imagine Stormin Norm will keep Dunlop from speaking to the Pantagraph before the game next week to avoid a repeat of last year's foot in mouth award?

[burly]

Except this year, Michigan will win the Big 10.

I would bet on Ohio State over Michigan

Ok, you're on.  Loser has to change their post pattern screen name.  Deal?

Only if we get to pick each other's name!

This could be dangerous... 

In order to change your profile name, do you have to start a new account?  I'm down for whatever - call the ball.

No you just need to go to your account settings.  This should be fun!  Even though it is against my better judgement I will keep your new name within good taste! 

Ok, it's a deal.  Winner gets to pick the losers post pattern name until....the first CCIW game of 2008???

Done and Done! As long as you don't change my name to Go Thunder, I'dhate to be mistaken for that guy (world record holder for -K)! 
Good luck! 

-K for me... That was a little uncalled for, but again that little devil on my left shoulder spoke louder than the little angel on my right!  That seams to be a common thing!

No worries, there are check and balances around here.  November 17 is around the corner.  Good luck to you.

[burly]

Only if we get to pick each other's name!

If you need any suggestions for new names, I'm sure the rest will chime in!!   

Yes, I completely plan on using a lifeline and polling the audience.

[Augie6]

Augie6,

I was at the game and like everyone else, stayed up til the last second.  You make good points, but you didn't mention those dropped passes by Wheaton's receivers.  First off, it is uncharacteristic for Wheaton's receievers to drop passes.  Secondly, the timiing of those dropped passes was not good - several were needed to retain possession.  I know that the Augie receiver should have caught that TD pass, but since when is the expectation high that Augie conncects on their passing game?  Which is of course why the time of possession was somewhat meaningless in this game.

No doubt that Augie could have won the game.  But I still maintain that had Wheaton simply executed their game plan, it would have been a 2 TD game.

P.S. The fake punt call by Augie was ingenious.

HJ,

I was at the game until the bitter end as well and my take is that the Wheaton mistakes weren't nearly as glaring as Augie's.  If I haven't mentioned Wheaton's dropped passes, you have yet to mention that Augie handed Wheaton a TD by fumbling a punt inside their 10 yard line.  I don't believe this was part of Augie's game plan.  Discounting Augie's mistakes (doesn't matter what the history of Augie's passing game is, when a wide open receiver drops a game winning TD, it's a big mistake) while emphasizing Wheaton's doesn't justify a statement that Wheaton was in control of the game and should have won by two TD's.  If they were in control of the game throughout, Augie wouldn't have outgained Wheaton by 100 yards.  Mistakes happen in every game (turnovers, penalties, dropped passes, etc) and you must overcome these to win ballgames. Wheaton did, Augie didn't.  That being said, I certainly didn't see a Wheaton team that outplayed Augie(or had the potential to outplay Augie) to the tune of 2 TD's.  I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

[usee]

 If they were in control of the game throughout, Augie wouldn't have outgained Wheaton by 100 yards.  

I let this go the first time but this is ridiculous. Augie got 70 of those "yards" on a fake punt and another 100+ on passing plays (50+ on a 3rd and 12 w a blown coverage).

the fact is wheaton was leading 21-7 and Augie was punting with 3 min left in the half. Wheaton was clearly in control and had they not roughed the punter they had a chance to make it a 3 score lead going into halftime. what game were you watching??

Augie could not run the ball in the second half and the fake punt gave them momentum (ittersagen missed a tackle that would have made this 70 yard gain about a 20 yd gain). the fumbled punt was a result of ittersagen manhandling the blocker and ripping the ball out of the returners hands.

The game I watched had wheaton clearly with opportunities to blow the game open on several occasions. To Augie's credit they made momentum changing plays and stayed in it to the end. I also was pretty sure the dropped pass in the endzone was tipped by the wheaton DB which would have made it a tough catch. If Augie is relying on the pass to win a game they aren't playing very well in my view.

[usee]

While I am (obviously) pleased that IWU, rather than NCC, slipped into the rankings, I'm somewhat surprised.  They are identical in regional winning %, NCC is slightly ahead in OWP, while IWU is slightly more ahead in OOWP.  I think it must come down to record against ranked opponents: IWU is 0-1 (MSJ), NCC is 0-2 (Wheaton, plus WashU who is #9 in the West).

I also think IWU being undefeated in conference and NCC having 1 loss has something to do with it. Keep in mind Norm Eash is on the committee which can't hurt either. 

[Jim Matson]

Augie, Wheaton and Augie fans always have to agree to disagree, no?

[Redmen96]

RED SOX !!!

[Jim Matson]

On a soccer note, Carthage beat Wheaton last night 1-0 for their first victory ever over the Thunder, and a share of the CCIW Title.  Red Men have to feel good about that!

[burly]

On a soccer note, Carthage beat Wheaton last night 1-0 for their first victory ever over the Thunder, and a share of the CCIW Title.  Red Men have to feel good about that!

But the women revenge the lost and clinched the CCIW Championship with a 5-1 win against Carthage.