FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[usee]

Maybe if you want to know why Wienke (I believe this is the correct spelling) was removed, replaced by Lester, and then
brought back again, you should go to the source - Coach Thorne could answer those questions so you guys don't have to guess at the answer.  Or better yet, go to the players - they'll tell you!

GoldenBoy

Can we avoid the Christmas rush and just ask you? I think Coach Thorne isn't likely to be answering any of my questions anytime soon.

[Wags]

THE FINAL WORD ON THE DEBATE OF ITTERSAGEN BEING "LUCKY" OR A  "GREAT PLAYER"....

(AS APPEARS IN TODAY'S SUN-TIMES)

Wheaton CB draws interest
SMALL COLLEGES | Ittersagen may follow Studebaker's path into an NFL camp
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September 18, 2008
BY DARYL VAN SCHOUWEN dvanschouwen@suntimes.com
Andy Studebaker was one of only 11 Division III players drafted by the NFL in the last 13 years and the first from Wheaton College. But he might not be the last. NFL scouts still are hanging around the west suburban Christian college, taking second looks at senior cornerback Pete Ittersagen.

''In fact, the Tennessee Titans are in right now looking at tape,'' Wheaton coach Mike Swider said Wednesday. ''A number of NFL teams are looking at him. He's getting the same interest as Andy.''

A sixth-round pick in April who made the Philadelphia Eagles' practice squad after recording 30 career sacks at Wheaton, Studebaker caught the Eagles' attention with his highlight tape on YouTube. Ittersagen (Wheaton North), a 5-10½, 185-pound All-American on defense and special teams, appears to have the speed, agility and instincts to complete an NFL re-Pete for the Thunder.

''He is fast and he has great feet, but he is a tremendously instinctive athlete,'' Swider said. ''He sees the field so well with tremendous anticipation. And that kid will hit you.''

Ittersagen, the gunner on Wheaton's punt-coverage unit, returned a punt 65 yards for a touchdown Saturday in the Thunder's opener, a 10-7 home win against No. 5 Bethel (1-1). It was his fourth punt return for a score, a school record.

The Thunder, which moved up seven spots to No. 10 in the d3football.com poll, plays at Concordia on Saturday.

Also in the College Conference of Illinois & Wisconsin:

• • Carthage sophomore quarterback Evan Jones (Grayslake), who missed most of 2007 with a knee injury, completed 23 of 35 passes for a school-record 428 yards in a 70-46 victory against visiting Hope. Jones tied a school record with six TD passes.

• • Elmhurst linebacker Randy Wright (Fenwick) was named CCIW defensive player of the week after tying a school record with three sacks in the Bluejays' 31-14 win at Olivet (Mich). Wright made 10 tackles.

• • Senior cornerback Billy Lynch (Loyola) made seven tackles, forced a fumble, recovered a fumble and intercepted a pass in the end zone in Augustana's 30-0 victory against Greenville.

• • North Central moved up three spots to No. 12 after beating then-16th Ohio Northern 20-3 as Aaron Fanthorpe passed for 152 yards with no interceptions to go with a 14-yard touchdown run in a driving rainstorm.

[Mugsy]

Maybe if you want to know why Wienke (I believe this is the correct spelling) was removed, replaced by Lester, and then
brought back again, you should go to the source - Coach Thorne could answer those questions so you guys don't have to guess at the answer.  Or better yet, go to the players - they'll tell you!

GoldenBoy

Thanks Mrs. Wienke! (glad you spelled your own name correctly) 

LOL... As proven again and again... you can't seek past CardAlum. 

[usee]

THE FINAL WORD ON THE DEBATE OF ITTERSAGEN BEING "LUCKY" OR A  "GREAT PLAYER"....

To be clear, I didn't see anyone say the Pete was "Lucky" as a player. I think the contention was that his runback in the Bethel game was "Lucky" because of the field conditions. I doubt there is any debate about his ability as a player.

[Wags]

THE FINAL WORD ON THE DEBATE OF ITTERSAGEN BEING "LUCKY" OR A  "GREAT PLAYER"....

To be clear, I didn't see anyone say the Pete was "Lucky" as a player. I think the contention was that his runback in the Bethel game was "Lucky" because of the field conditions. I doubt there is any debate about his ability as a player.

Sorry, I should have written BEING "LUCKY" OR A "GREAT PLAYER" ON HIS RUNBACK IN THE BETHEL GAME! 

He is a great player and enjoyable to watch.  Excited to see that he is being scouted for the NFL.  I guess I was just in a rush to post the great article on him.  Again my apology!!!!!!!!!!

[themadswede]

Many Americans have been screwed by the likes of Enron, WorldCom and more recently Lehman, Merrill Lynch and AIG.  Although I've been fortunate to avoid most of this pain, I now know how they feel, at a lesser level, considering how I've been screwed out of the past 10 minutes of my life scrolling through pointless arguments about puddles and Pete Ittersagen.  Any time anyone invokes the "L" word (luck, for the uninitiated), it's not worth arguing about.  That said, I think the majority of arguments that were made, well...made good arguments to support the fact that Pete Ittersagen is darn good.  In other words, it's funny how the best players always seem to make the luckiest plays, huh?  Furthermore, I can think of few things that sound sillier and more sophomoric (with the exception of this post perhaps) than calling anything in sports "lucky", whether it be the Immaculate Reception, the entire 2001 Bears season, et. al.  It just sounds like whining or paranoid fan fear.

Foolish musings aside, I look forward to getting past this discussion and then seeing the Thunder take The Dutch to the proverbial woodshed in a couple weeks, although I don't know any proverbs about woodsheds (though I wouldn't be surprised if Sager, with all his folk wisdom, does).  And for those who say I'm looking past Concordia 1) I don't play for the Thunder, so I'm allowed and 2) My interest is more related to proximity of game-watching than Thunder-love.

Matblake - see you this weekend.

[redman04]

Maybe if you want to know why Wienke (I believe this is the correct spelling) was removed, replaced by Lester, and then
brought back again, you should go to the source - Coach Thorne could answer those questions so you guys don't have to guess at the answer.  Or better yet, go to the players - they'll tell you!

GoldenBoy

It is always such a great thing to have a post like this... It contributes so much to the conversations.  As you all may know, Coach Thorn is happy to take as many calls as he can to answer questions from a bunch of washed up, old football players.  It is his favorite thing to do!  As a matter of fact, I just talked to him yesterday and questioned his play calling on 3rd downs. 

You are My Goldenboy! +K for adding so much.

Goldenboys next post..... If you wanna know why little Billy didn't get a truck for X-mas, just call Santa and ask or you can ask one of his elves.

cciw's next post..... Rain is bad! It makes you lose football games

[cardinaldad]

Maybe if you want to know why Wienke (I believe this is the correct spelling) was removed, replaced by Lester, and then
brought back again, you should go to the source - Coach Thorne could answer those questions so you guys don't have to guess at the answer.  Or better yet, go to the players - they'll tell you!

GoldenBoy

I don't think the players have an answer. He had the players support. Do all of them know something we don't and are disciplined enough to keep it under wraps? I haven't heard one speak out yet.

[matblake]

themadswede appears and then disappears back into the shadows again, our only comfort is knowing that he continues to lurk, waiting for the moment to inject his point of view or hate on Coach Eash.

Outside of the "homerish" Wheaton game, the two games I'm most interested in are the Carthage and Millikin games.  Carthage, I'm waiting to see if the offense continues on in the same fashion as last week.  Millikin, because I want to see if last weeks lost to Loras is a sign of more to come, or a "scratch your head in disbelief" type of thing. 

I'm not sure an IWU win against Aurora will tell anything about their team at this point.  They have done what they needed to do so far though.

[Gregory Sager]

Goldenboys next post….. If you wanna know why little Billy didn’t get a truck for X-mas, just call Santa and ask or you can ask one of his elves.

I absolutely hate it whenever I call North Pole customer service and ask to speak to Santa, only to be put on hold by one of those stupid elves. A man can only take five minutes or so of Paul McCartney's "Wonderful Christmastime" before he starts chewing the tinsel off the tree.

Foolish musings aside, I look forward to getting past this discussion and then seeing the Thunder take The Dutch to the proverbial woodshed in a couple weeks, although I don't know any proverbs about woodsheds (though I wouldn't be surprised if Sager, with all his folk wisdom, does).

A journey of a thousand miles to the woodshed begins with a single step.
                        -- Confucius

[usee]

coversation heard recently:

Norm Eash: "when is the last time a quarterback completed 65% of his passes, threw for 272 yards and 6 TD's and wasn't player of the week in the CCIW???!!"

Tim Rucks:"Norm, I feel your pain, but I am sure it happened the last time a second CCIW QB completed 65% of his passes for 426 yds and 6 TD's"

Norm Eash: "But Tim, we scored 48pts and won the game against an MIAA opponent"

Tim Rucks: "Sorry Stormin Norm, the MIAA's top team was victim to our 70pt tirade. I guess my clinic speech on defensive back play didn't make it across the pond to Holland. Come to think of it, I may have to brush that talk off for our guys...gotta go Norm."

Norm Eash: "Can you send me a copy of that talk?....."

[Dennis_Prikkel]

coversation heard recently:

Norm Eash: "when is the last time a quarterback completed 65% of his passes, threw for 272 yards and 6 TD's and wasn't player of the week in the CCIW???!!"

Tim Rucks:"Norm, I feel your pain, but I am sure it happened the last time a second CCIW QB completed 65% of his passes for 426 yds and 6 TD's"

Norm Eash: "But Tim, we scored 48pts and won the game against an MIAA opponent"

Tim Rucks: "Sorry Stormin Norm, the MIAA's top team was victim to our 70pt tirade. I guess my clinic speech on defensive back play didn't make it across the pond to Holland. Come to think of it, I may have to brush that talk off for our guys...gotta go Norm."

Norm Eash: "Can you send me a copy of that talk?....."

I saw a quarterback pass for 3 TD's, run for 2 TD's, kick all five extra points and a field goal in his team's 38-6 win, and Ken Anderson didn't get CCIW Player of the Week honors for Augstana's 1970 victory over North Park at Rock Island High School Stadium.  It could have been because I inaugurated the CCIW Player of the Week award during the 1978 football season.

dgp

[matblake]

It could have been because I inaugurated the CCIW Player of the Week award during the 1978 football season.

Show off.   

[washdupcard]

coversation heard recently:

Norm Eash: "when is the last time a quarterback completed 65% of his passes, threw for 272 yards and 6 TD's and wasn't player of the week in the CCIW???!!"

Tim Rucks:"Norm, I feel your pain, but I am sure it happened the last time a second CCIW QB completed 65% of his passes for 426 yds and 6 TD's"

Norm Eash: "But Tim, we scored 48pts and won the game against an MIAA opponent"

Tim Rucks: "Sorry Stormin Norm, the MIAA's top team was victim to our 70pt tirade. I guess my clinic speech on defensive back play didn't make it across the pond to Holland. Come to think of it, I may have to brush that talk off for our guys...gotta go Norm."

Norm Eash: "Can you send me a copy of that talk?....."

I saw a quarterback pass for two 3 TD's, run for 2 TD's, kick all five extra points and a field goal in his team's 38-6 win, and Ken Anderson didn't get CCIW Player of the Week honors for Augstana's 1970 victory over North Park at Rock Island High School Stadium.  It could have been because I inaugurated the CCIW Player of the Week award during the 1978 football season.

dgp

Is that like 60% of the time it works everytime?

[usee]

Good article in ATN by keith on front page. Talks about ONU and keith says what he thinks about NCC in the poll this week.