FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[usee]

I am sure it can't be the same person who picks the pow or turns in stats to the NCAA. 

[Augie6]

Sounds like there was one good game this weekend and that was the IWU/Carthage Game.
I don't often look ahead, never as a player, but as a fan, I think I can bring up the thought for discussion. 
In just under 3 weeks we could have a 6-0 NC traveling to a 6-0 Wheaton with alot on the line.

Does anyone remember the last time 2 top 10 ranked nationally CCIW teams played in a regular season matchup?   

I don't think it has happened. Wheaton will have to get past Augie in Rock Island this week and Millikin at home next week.

The school 8 miles south will have to beat the vikings in chicago this saturday and Carthage at home next weekend to set up the historic game.

Haven't posted for awhile.  I have two sons playing football in Wheaton's jr. program and I'm coaching one of the teams, so I haven't had the time to see Augie or any CCIW teams play this year.  Hopefully, I'll be able to make it when they play in Naperville. I have been able to keep tabs on all the CCIW teams by reading through posts on the board.  I appreciate the great information that you guys provide. 

Like usee, I don't think the CCIW has had two top ten teams play in the regular season, although we have had several match-ups that were close.  The Augie and Millikin teams in 1984, 85 and 86 were both highly ranked entering their games against each other.  84' had Augie #1 and Millikin #12, 85' had Augie #1 and Millikin #13, and 86' had Millikin #10 and Augie #12.  All teams were undefeated at the time, but the 86' Augie team had the 0-0 tie with Elmhurst to open the season.

[New Tradition]

Just how many former CCIW football players are football head coaching or assistant coaching at the 340 Chicago area high schools?

I would guess that its probably a pretty significant number.

dgp

I know that there are an incredible amount of coaches in the DVC at the varsity or sophomore level that have played or coached at NCC in the last decade alone!  There is 1 at West Chicago, 1 at Naperville Central, 1 at Naperville North, 2 at Wheaton Warrenville South, 2 at Glenbard North, and 3 at Wheaton North.  I can think of at least 10 more NCC grads that I played with that are coaching elsewhere as well.  So there are 20 high school coaches that have been involved with NCC in the last decade.  That's not mentioning any of the other CCIW schools.

[Gregory Sager]

OK. stop the presses. freeze the board. Someone take a picture. I don't know which is more shocking: the fact that someone else was able to post on this page after Greg's dissertation or the fact that Cardinalalum just seriously defended Mugsy. 

I'm shocked that nobody caught my Earth, Wind & Fire joke.

Well, not really.

Step 4: Having married a NPU alum just for such an occasion and attending a Covenant church for 37 years, making sure to build a significant network amongst the "Covie" contingent, play the trump card of "how can I be a conceited Wheaton twit if I have so many covenant friends and family to keep me in line?"

Step 5: With the "Covenant card" played, hopefully Mr. Sager will step out in my defense, knowing that historically he stays out of the Wheaton vs. "Naperville school" dialogue.

And now you know why I don't play poker ... or whatever card game it is in which people use "trump cards".

Disclaimer:
1. I married my wife because she is the most amazing woman I have ever known. 
2. I will continue to strive to be objective as possible.
3. I expect CardinalAlum to fall for this again at some point.
4. You aren't rid of me yet.

I do feel constrained to point out that your disclaimer is colored red.

I think Greg covered just about every point about North Park football, but one....

High school football coaches usually acquire an emotional personal attachment to their players.  It's built up over years of watching these kids in pop warner football and park district football (heck in Rolling Meadows the present high school coach was instrumental in getting park district football started and the local teams often practice and play on the school practice fields and lawns) and then four years of high school.

This emotional attachment with their players also means that high school coaches are going to be leery of encouraging any of their players to seek admission at school where they do not think the kid is going to get the same quality of football coaching he is receiving in high school.

That's a very good point as well. Thanks for adding it.

I know other Wheaties that have married Covies and conviently attend a Covenant church, but cut away the top layer and they still bleed blue and orange.

Let me guess ... your "Kiss My Wheaton" button didn't go over very well with your church's pastors last Sunday.

[Dennis_Prikkel]

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I know other Wheaties that have married Covies and conviently attend a Covenant church, but cut away the top layer and they still bleed blue and orange.

Let me guess ... your "Kiss My Wheaton" button didn't go over very well with your church's pastors last Sunday.

We use to be able to take care of this "Kiss My Wheaton" in less subtle ways on Saturday nights during the basketball season in Crusaderville.

It's hard to poke fun at a school when your's is regularly getting its butt kicked by theirs.

And its equally hard to remind the two Wheaton alums in our church that the college president can't preach a lick.  I mean who really cares about that.   

dgp

[OC_SID]

I am sure it can't be the same person who picks the pow or turns in stats to the NCAA. 

Unless the CCIW is different from the MIAA, the person who reports football stats to the NCAA is the host SID ... In years past, the conference SID would have to send a file to the NCAA by Monday ... This year, the host SID is required to send a game file to the NCAA after the game.

[Neverwas]

I just quickly glanced at the OAC pick'ems....

I find it comical that the spread between the #1 and #5 teams in the country is 19.5.  Personally I think Mt. Union wins by more than 3 tds.  How do you guys feel about the "game of the week?"

[Neverwas]

Still early in the season but a few interesting statistics....

Four CCIW teams are in the top 30 in rushing defense.  All under 90 yds a game.
18 - Millikin
21 - NCC (5th in total defense)
23 - Augie (18th in total defense)
29 - Wheaton (19 in total defense)

Maybe CCIW hasn't played very good teams but it looks like there are some solid defenses in the league...Elmhurst was 23th in total d.

And its amazing what playing NPU will do for your passing efficiency...Norris is 7th @ 179.3 (Fanthorpe is 15th @ 170)

[Dennis_Prikkel]

And its amazing what playing NPU will do for your passing efficiency...Norris is 7th @ 179.3 (Fanthorpe is 15th @ 170)

Rub it in, rub it in.

-K for you, boo hoo, picking on my school

just you wait....

you'll get yours

dgp - ever the gung-ho true blue and gold rooter (and I don't mean Augiestana either)

[usee]

Still early in the season but a few interesting statistics....

Four CCIW teams are in the top 30 in rushing defense.  All under 90 yds a game.
18 - Millikin
21 - NCC (5th in total defense)
23 - Augie (18th in total defense)
29 - Wheaton (19 in total defense)

Maybe CCIW hasn't played very good teams but it looks like there are some solid defenses in the league...Elmhurst was 23th in total d.

And its amazing what playing NPU will do for your passing efficiency...Norris is 7th @ 179.3 (Fanthorpe is 15th @ 170)

I don't think it had much to do with NPU. Norris was firing bullets on the mark saturday. the one incompletion was actually stripped out of the wheaton receiver's hands by an NPU defender. His stats at Hope were pretty awesome too (11-14 for 172 yds and 3 tds)

[usee]

Augie/Wheaton game is the game of the week. It's not hard to see why Augie has so good defensively. It appears they start 7 Sr's and 3 Jr's on defense. I think they are running a 3-4 defense and their down 3 have been very active. Eric Smith (15tackles, 5 tfl, 5 sacks), Jake Snider (16tkl, 5.5 tfl, 3 sacks) and Adam Krejci (9tkl, 2 tfl, 2 sacks). In addition their leading tackler is again their sr corner, Billy Lynch (28 tck, 1 tfl, 2 int). I think Wheaton's OLine will have their toughest test yet against this front. This defense has not been yielding much (75 yds per game rushing, 165 passing) and leads the league in turnover ratio at +5 (13 takeaways on 8 giveaways).

Augies offense clearly runs through Podulka. Control him and you control their offense but their defense is the heart of this team. THe key to this game is Wheaton's ability to run the ball. if they can run it they will open up the passing lanes. The wheaton OLine needs to be able to hold up against this defense. They are not very big so I supsect Wheaton will try to run iso, power and downhill plays that makes the smaller Vikings get off blocks to make tackles. If Augie's defense controls the LOS and gets the wheaton offense off the field, the augie O will have too many opportunities. If wheaton can score and put pressure on the augie Offense to score they will have them where they want them. a close game in the 4th quarter against an ineffective wheaton offense is not a good recipe for success in my mind.

[Son of Tailgater]

For discussion purposes when and against who can we predict North Park getting thier next conference win. I looked at the remaining schedule and really think that it will be tough for them to find a W for the remainder of this year. I think that their best oppertunity would be when they are home against Milikin on Oct. 25.

I believe the closest they came was against Carthage during the 2004 season when they held Carthage to no offensive points.

They were also in a close game with IWU (20-14) last year and also in 2004 with Elmhurts (35-21).

The last conference victory was on October 7, 2000 when they defeated Elmhurst 31-21.

[orsky]

Usee, I was just wondering about your post.  Isn't Wheatons defense the core of thier team also?  I believe they start 8 Sr and 3 Jrs.  Why wouldn't that be as difficult a task for Augie to move the ball?  It seems to me that both offenses will have to step up big to score. 

Additionally, I'm wondering why there is such concern with the offense being able to move the ball.  Wheaton has moved the ball very well the last two weeks after Norris recovered from the stitches in his hand.  I'm not saying the offense won't have to step it up, but as you said Wheaton was one reception, on a great defensive play, away from being perfect in passing last week.

I'm not saying you're not correct, just trying to figure out where the tipping point is.

[Augie6]

Additionally, I'm wondering why there is such concern with the offense being able to move the ball.  Wheaton has moved the ball very well the last two weeks after Norris recovered from the stitches in his hand.  I'm not saying the offense won't have to step it up, but as you said Wheaton was one reception, on a great defensive play, away from being perfect in passing last week.

I'm not saying you're not correct, just trying to figure out where the tipping point is.

Not to answer for usee, but I wouldn't put too much stock in Wheaton's offensive successes over the past two games.  They played a Hope team that is 0-5 and hasn't been able to stop anyone and North Park is, well, North Park. I'm not saying they will or they won't have success on offense this weekend, but I don't think the last two opponents would give any team a good indication of where they are at offensively.   How they play this Saturday vs., what seems to be, a pretty good Augie defense should give Wheaton fans a good idea of what type of offensive production they can expect this year.

[usee]

Exactly Augie6. I think Augie's defense will be on a par or better than Bethel's defense and Augie's offense is likely better than Bethel's. That's not to say Augie's defense will have it easy. The Wheaton D will be by far the best they have seen and they will struggle to put points up.

I do think the key to the game is the Wheaton O vs the Augie D. If this game is low scoring (which means Wheaton's O is struggling) then Augie can junk it up and try to get a score (remember last year and unbalanced lines, tricky formations, spread then double tight, etc) to put pressure on the Wheaton O. If this game is high scoring then Wheaton will win easily.

My experience tells me that a Sr. dominated Defense putting up good numbers is indicative of a close game (see IWU last year). If you remember 2 yrs ago Wheaton went to Rock Island averaging almost 33pts a game and scored 14 in a loss to Augie. I fear that type of game Saturday. If Wheaton can score 24+ they will win easily in my opinion.

But my place in the pickems as well as my prediction IWU would beat Carthage easily tells me I have no clue what I am talking about!