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CardinalAlum

 :D :D, ah yes, the Bob Meyer days.....I sure miss some of the old days!!  ;D
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usee

Jaybird,

Here you go man. Check out the "others recieving votes". Somebody is showing some love for Elmhurst.

http://www.afca.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9300&ATCLID=1617652

Blitz Creed

Quote from: USee on November 04, 2008, 01:40:52 PM
Quote from: Blitz Creed on November 04, 2008, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: USee on November 04, 2008, 12:14:07 AM
I think there should be no question that ittersagen is a first team all CCIW and first team all american. I would be very sruprised if he didn't win both those awards easily. I do not think he will be DPOY. I think Wenger has that wrapped up. I also don't think Wright is a close second. I think Randy Wright is a great talent but he isn't quite where Wenger is physically. Wenger is stronger and can take on blockers where Randy still gets tied up inside in the running game. They are both very fast and athletic and have great instincts for the ball. Wenger is on a different level right now IMO.

No question a first team all-american, with ease? I think you are discrediting dozens of great defensive backs in the nation who play for top 25 teams, that have just as much talent, size/speed and statistics.

Name one. Dozens? You are delirious.

Quote from: Blitz Creed on November 04, 2008, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: USee on November 04, 2008, 12:14:07 AM
I do think ittersagen's performance Saturday may have cost him a shot in the NFL. He may still get a look in a camp or a tryout but scouts are going to see that tape and say if he can't cover Matt D'Angelo (no offense to matt) how is he going to cover Marty Booker and Rashied Davies? He has a great chance to redeem himself this weekend because Norm will as usual challenge ittersagen several times so Pete better be ready.

Covering WR in the league.... I was to think that Ittersagen would be used primarily for special teams, possibly a specialist like B. Ayanbadejo. I know he is getting scouted as a DB but I would figure his primary use would be special teams. So would a bad game hurt his chances if he has the skills and speed? IMO I would think not, in my experiences the NFL obviously looks at talent and statistics but more so on test numbers. I still think Ittersagen has a great chance.

Besides the fact that you contradict yourself here (either that or you think there are "dozens" of dbs who will also get an NFL shot) I agree with your assessment. Ittersagen will probably get a free agent contract and a chance to prove himself on special teams.

I think you may have misunderstood what I meant or I delivered it wrong.... I think do to the circumstances already mentioned in previous posts not written by me, I do not believe he will be a 1st team all-american with ease (not saying he will not, but with ease is just crazy) because of all the other DB's in the country that are having a better year statistically and playing on better teams that have more exposer (usually higher ranked teams will have more AA). However, this does not mean he does have the tools to maybe make it in the league. Just because an individual does not have a knock out senior year doesn't mean he doesn't have a shot at the league (i.e. studebaker).
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Blitz Creed

Quote from: New Tradition on November 04, 2008, 01:40:03 PM
Quote from: Blitz Creed on November 04, 2008, 01:13:23 PM
I know he is getting scouted as a DB but I would figure his primary use would be special teams. So would a bad game hurt his chances if he has the skills and speed? IMO I would think not, in my experiences the NFL obviously looks at talent and statistics but more so on test numbers. I still think Ittersagen has a great chance.

Really?  Even with him being all obsolete and everything?  :D ;D ;)

please lets not start that again...  ::)
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Blitz Creed

Quote from: USee on November 04, 2008, 01:40:52 PM
Quote from: Blitz Creed on November 04, 2008, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: USee on November 04, 2008, 12:14:07 AM
I think there should be no question that ittersagen is a first team all CCIW and first team all american. I would be very sruprised if he didn't win both those awards easily. I do not think he will be DPOY. I think Wenger has that wrapped up. I also don't think Wright is a close second. I think Randy Wright is a great talent but he isn't quite where Wenger is physically. Wenger is stronger and can take on blockers where Randy still gets tied up inside in the running game. They are both very fast and athletic and have great instincts for the ball. Wenger is on a different level right now IMO.

No question a first team all-american, with ease? I think you are discrediting dozens of great defensive backs in the nation who play for top 25 teams, that have just as much talent, size/speed and statistics.

Name one. Dozens? You are delirious.


Dozens was a bit out of context. But your right there is not one DB that even comes close to comparing... probably ever in the history of division III  ;D  :D
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CardinalAlum

Quote from: USee on November 04, 2008, 02:55:18 PM
Jaybird,

Here you go man. Check out the "others recieving votes". Somebody is showing some love for Elmhurst.

http://www.afca.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9300&ATCLID=1617652

Yes, ONE person!!!   :D
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New Tradition

Quote from: Blitz Creed on November 04, 2008, 02:58:16 PM
Quote from: New Tradition on November 04, 2008, 01:40:03 PM
Quote from: Blitz Creed on November 04, 2008, 01:13:23 PM
I know he is getting scouted as a DB but I would figure his primary use would be special teams. So would a bad game hurt his chances if he has the skills and speed? IMO I would think not, in my experiences the NFL obviously looks at talent and statistics but more so on test numbers. I still think Ittersagen has a great chance.

Really?  Even with him being all obsolete and everything?  :D ;D ;)

please lets not start that again...  ::)

Ha, I'm just messin with ya bud.
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Mugsy

Quote from: CardinalAlum on November 04, 2008, 03:15:12 PM
Quote from: USee on November 04, 2008, 02:55:18 PM
Jaybird,

Here you go man. Check out the "others recieving votes". Somebody is showing some love for Elmhurst.

http://www.afca.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9300&ATCLID=1617652

Yes, ONE person!!!   :D

Do we know what Jaybirds fiancĂ© does?   :P ::)
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Blitz Creed

Quote from: Mugsy on November 04, 2008, 04:09:12 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on November 04, 2008, 03:15:12 PM
Quote from: USee on November 04, 2008, 02:55:18 PM
Jaybird,

Here you go man. Check out the "others recieving votes". Somebody is showing some love for Elmhurst.

http://www.afca.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9300&ATCLID=1617652

Yes, ONE person!!!   :D

Do we know what Jaybirds fiancĂ© does?   :P ::)

All joking aside, what a great stepping stone for Elmhurst, getting votes in week 10! Congrats to the bluejays
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usee


ncc58

Quote from: USee on November 04, 2008, 08:01:23 PM
You mean getting "vote" in week 10.

JB sure adds to the "fun" element on this board.

For a wedding gift, we should create a "Best Of" album - with the top posts by JB for his wife-to-be to read. :D :D :D :D

Blitz Creed

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CardinalAlum

Quote from: midwestfb on November 04, 2008, 08:14:51 PM
JB sure adds to the "fun" element on this board.

For a wedding gift, we should create a "Best Of" album - with the top posts by JB for his wife-to-be to read. :D :D :D :D

As soon as we find one, we will!!!   ;D :-*  Sorry, JB, couldn't resist the hanging curveball thrown out there!!
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CardinalAlum

BC,

Huge props for your scrolling bottom!!!  +K  Can I borrow that for mine?
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