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[Mugsy]

Also, for those who can't make it to the game (or don't want to put up with the possible rain and wind that we may be getting), the game can be seen live on http://www.nctv17.com.

Or heard on WETN radio... www.wheaton.edu/wetn.   

Or heard on http://www.wonc.org

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Ah... just go to the game everyone!  Gut up!  What's a little rain or snow?

[New Tradition]

Ah... just go to the game everyone!  Gut up!  What's a little rain or snow?

Unless you live in another state and are forced to listen.

...so depressed that I'm not gonna be there for this...

[CardinalAlum]

I spoke with an inside source. It is just a rumor around campus that Sulo injured his ACL. The word is that it is his miniscus.

The primary difference being that injuries involving the crescent shaped lamellae of fibrocartilage that border and partly cover the articulating surfaces of the tibia and femur at the knee can often be surgically repaired through arthroscopic means whereas ACL injuries typically require a much more extensive reconstructive procedure.   

Apparently AndOne went through Kendall Selsky's Human Anatomy course, haha!  However, a meniscus repair after the age of 18 is highly unlikely due to the lack of blood flow to the meniscus.  They require a season of recovery and often fail.  Generally, a surgeon would like to perserve it.  However, in the case of a 21 or 22 year old they will MOST LIKELY remove it.  This process usually takes about 4 weeks to fully recover from.  I am no stranger to knee injuries, myself.

Everyone should have a chance to take a course with Kendall 

Amen!!!!  LOL!!!   

[Wags]

For all the NCC fans and especially the Wheaton Fans, check out the picture here:

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/napervillesun/sports/1836045,naperville-ncc-wc-rivalry-na102009.article

BE SURE TO ENLARGE THE PICTURE SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE BELL IS GOING TO STAY !

[NCC.2008]

Wheaton has a lot of nice players on defense, but I don't see the player that you have to gameplan away from, as has been the case the last four years. The NCC offense is rolling and confident. I see it as:

NCC 53 Wheaton 24

NCC will hang 53 on Wheaton?  Carthage sticks 48 on you and Wheaton will only get half that?  Wow...

I think 53 is a little low....
Prediction NCC-67
orange and blue team-14    

[ThunderHasBeen]

Ah... just go to the game everyone!  Gut up!  What's a little rain or snow?

Unless you live in another state and are forced to listen.

...so depressed that I'm not gonna be there for this...

I'm with you man, I've been out of the country and got to watch the Augie game and I am HOPING to watch this game...can't remember the last Wheaton/NCC game I missed

[Gregory Sager]

I spoke with an inside source. It is just a rumor around campus that Sulo injured his ACL. The word is that it is his miniscus.

Well hopefully that is true, as minisci (is that correct plural for miniscus?) injuries generally heal quicker.

Both menisci and meniscuses are acceptable plurals for "meniscus."

Your instincts regarding plurals for Latin-derived words are good, O Broadway Crooner, even though your spelling isn't.

My wife drives a Prius (the only car I've ever known of that gets better mileage than advertised).  I'm thinking of getting one too, just so we can bore everyone with boasts about our Prii!

If you make such boasts in the presence of someone who knows Latin, Chuck, be prepared to be bored right back with a grammar lesson.

BTW, I enjoyed the quote Mugsy posted about the history of the Little Brass Bell rivalry. I especially enjoyed the parts where: a) the people from Wheaton committed theft of public records, which must've been a serious felony in Illinois even at that early date; and b) the farmer made his two sons flip a coin, with the loser having to attend Wheaton. 

[Neverwas]

What is the status of both NCC and WC RB's for this week?

I feel this game could be a blow out.  So far this year Wheaton has been able to get away with not putting together an entire game.  That cannot happen this week.  I am not sure what Wheaton's strengths or weaknesses on defense are but I am sceptical of their secondary.  If Wheaton struggles to pressure Fanthorpe I believe Wheaton will have a tough time stopping NCC.  Wheaton has a quality offense but I would rate it a little bit below NCC.

If this game is close it will come down to TO's and special teams, like good games should.  Also, both teams cannot afford to kick FG's instead of scoring TD's this week.  In 2005 kicking early FG's hurt WC, in 2006 2 first half FG's came back to hurt NCC, and to a lesser extent it hurt NCC in 2007 (a 27yd fg in a four point loss).

I guess I should never under estimate Swider and company but I feel NCC wins by two scores.

[Wags]

Seeing that Wheaton is ranked #3 and North Central is ranked #13, if you take away the 3's, then North Central is #1 

GO CARDS!!!!

[Dennis_Prikkel]

I spoke with an inside source. It is just a rumor around campus that Sulo injured his ACL. The word is that it is his miniscus.

Well hopefully that is true, as minisci (is that correct plural for miniscus?) injuries generally heal quicker.

Both menisci and meniscuses are acceptable plurals for "meniscus."

Your instincts regarding plurals for Latin-derived words are good, O Broadway Crooner, even though your spelling isn't.

My wife drives a Prius (the only car I've ever known of that gets better mileage than advertised).  I'm thinking of getting one too, just so we can bore everyone with boasts about our Prii!

If you make such boasts in the presence of someone who knows Latin, Chuck, be prepared to be bored right back with a grammar lesson.

BTW, I enjoyed the quote Mugsy posted about the history of the Little Brass Bell rivalry. I especially enjoyed the parts where: a) the people from Wheaton committed theft of public records, which must've been a serious felony in Illinois even at that early date; and b) the farmer made his two sons flip a coin, with the loser having to attend Wheaton. 

excellent story on the history of the bell (much embellished by time, im sure).

However, battles over the location of county seats was often bloody - glad this one went off without bloodshed.

[Mugsy]

I spoke with an inside source. It is just a rumor around campus that Sulo injured his ACL. The word is that it is his miniscus.

Well hopefully that is true, as minisci (is that correct plural for miniscus?) injuries generally heal quicker.

Both menisci and meniscuses are acceptable plurals for "meniscus."

Your instincts regarding plurals for Latin-derived words are good, O Broadway Crooner, even though your spelling isn't.

My wife drives a Prius (the only car I've ever known of that gets better mileage than advertised).  I'm thinking of getting one too, just so we can bore everyone with boasts about our Prii!

If you make such boasts in the presence of someone who knows Latin, Chuck, be prepared to be bored right back with a grammar lesson.

BTW, I enjoyed the quote Mugsy posted about the history of the Little Brass Bell rivalry. I especially enjoyed the parts where: a) the people from Wheaton committed theft of public records, which must've been a serious felony in Illinois even at that early date; and b) the farmer made his two sons flip a coin, with the loser having to attend Wheaton. 

lol, leave it to a Parker to notice the "loser" of the coin flip.

[Mugsy]

What is the status of both NCC and WC RB's for this week?

I feel this game could be a blow out.  So far this year Wheaton has been able to get away with not putting together an entire game.  That cannot happen this week.  I am not sure what Wheaton's strengths or weaknesses on defense are but I am sceptical of their secondary.  If Wheaton struggles to pressure Fanthorpe I believe Wheaton will have a tough time stopping NCC.  Wheaton has a quality offense but I would rate it a little bit below NCC.

If this game is close it will come down to TO's and special teams, like good games should.  Also, both teams cannot afford to kick FG's instead of scoring TD's this week.  In 2005 kicking early FG's hurt WC, in 2006 2 first half FG's came back to hurt NCC, and to a lesser extent it hurt NCC in 2007 (a 27yd fg in a four point loss).

I guess I should never under estimate Swider and company but I feel NCC wins by two scores.

First of all, I believe Wheaton has put together an entire game.  They beat up on CUW, NPU and Millikin to the point of allow reserves to play much of the 2nd half.  So those games they didn't have a chance "to put together an entire game" for their starters.  If using that as a basis for the argument, then I'd say NCC hasn't played a full game either for 5 of 6 games due to blowouts and the other game was a loss to ONU.

Wheaton beats an excellent Bethel team on the road, who minus the last play win by both Wheaton and St. John's would be undefeated and easily in the top 25.  Wheaton beat a decent Augustana team, who always plays Wheaton tough.  It took "an entire game" to win those games.

[Uncledudley]

Many moons have passed since I logged in and commented. After the NCC vs Carthage game, I felt like I just had to say my peace about scores. I don't know if anyone has talked about this lately. Has anyone noticed that College Football whether it's DI DII or our beloved DIII is all about the big score? I coached HS football for 20 plus years and always felt that when a score got that out of hand, we wanted to shoot the coach and his staff that was accross the field. Running it up... putting our nose in it ... as they say. Now days it doesn't seem to matter. NCC staff would say... heck it took us that many points to beat them. But look around to other games. Now days when some one wins with a 14-7 score, the winning team is almost delegated to having a loss.  One of these days a CCIW score will go over 100 (NCC was close) and the coach said he was ok with that. I guess I'm just old school.   GO CCIW Great Football at an affordable price!

[Gregory Sager]

I spoke with an inside source. It is just a rumor around campus that Sulo injured his ACL. The word is that it is his miniscus.

Well hopefully that is true, as minisci (is that correct plural for miniscus?) injuries generally heal quicker.

Both menisci and meniscuses are acceptable plurals for "meniscus."

Your instincts regarding plurals for Latin-derived words are good, O Broadway Crooner, even though your spelling isn't.

My wife drives a Prius (the only car I've ever known of that gets better mileage than advertised).  I'm thinking of getting one too, just so we can bore everyone with boasts about our Prii!

If you make such boasts in the presence of someone who knows Latin, Chuck, be prepared to be bored right back with a grammar lesson.

BTW, I enjoyed the quote Mugsy posted about the history of the Little Brass Bell rivalry. I especially enjoyed the parts where: a) the people from Wheaton committed theft of public records, which must've been a serious felony in Illinois even at that early date; and b) the farmer made his two sons flip a coin, with the loser having to attend Wheaton. 

lol, leave it to a Parker to notice the "loser" of the coin flip.

I only noticed because it was Wheaton College, of course.

One of these days a CCIW score will go over 100 (NCC was close) and the coach said he was ok with that. I guess I'm just old school.

It's already been done -- and it was back in the "old school" era. North Park scored 104 points against North Central back in 1968. Of course, one wonders whether that 41-year-old rout was in the back of the minds of the NCC players and coaches two weeks ago when they obliterated NPU, but I tend to doubt it. That kind of stuff is ancient history and has no connection to any of the current participants in either program. Of course, one of the NCC insiders here may have evidence to the contrary in terms of that 1968 game being a motivator for the Cardinals.

I think that most of us can tell the difference between running up a score against an outmanned opponent and trying to do the sportsmanlike thing. Does the winning team pull its starters early? Are they running a vanilla offense that doesn't feature long downfield passes? Are they taking their time before snaps? I haven't seen any specific complaints in this room that a winning team wasn't doing these things. Heck, NCC did everything but put helmets on their cheerleaders and run them out onto the field against NPU in the second half, and they still massacred the Vikings. The onus for that is not on NCC; it's on NPU.

[Crutches McGee 87]

I spoke with an inside source. It is just a rumor around campus that Sulo injured his ACL. The word is that it is his miniscus.

The primary difference being that injuries involving the crescent shaped lamellae of fibrocartilage that border and partly cover the articulating surfaces of the tibia and femur at the knee can often be surgically repaired through arthroscopic means whereas ACL injuries typically require a much more extensive reconstructive procedure.   

Apparently AndOne went through Kendall Selsky's Human Anatomy course, haha!  However, a meniscus repair after the age of 18 is highly unlikely due to the lack of blood flow to the meniscus.  They require a season of recovery and often fail.  Generally, a surgeon would like to perserve it.  However, in the case of a 21 or 22 year old they will MOST LIKELY remove it.  This process usually takes about 4 weeks to fully recover from.  I am no stranger to knee injuries, myself.

Everyone should have a chance to take a course with Kendall 

Amen!!!!  LOL!!!   

So true, haha.  Got the final report on the extent of  Dominic Sulo's injury... I promise!  The first MRI came back positive for a torn meniscus.  However, they went and had a second look.  Final prognosis, torn meniscus, torn ACL, torn tendon that attaches to the hamstring.  I just wish Sulo a speedy recovery.  Same with the rest of the Cards that are injured... as well as the rest of the CCIW players that are banged up.

As for the alumni game, I wish I could play, but I have another knee surgery coming up in a few weeks (and I'm coaching a high school game) and will not be able to attend. Next year ya'll better be ready!