FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[NCF]

and another big if..

If John Thorne would have left Wheaton Warrenville South in 1998 and came to North Central, the Cardinals would have 10 Championships this decade   


John Thorne wouldn't have left  WWS in 98, he could have left in 99 after hurdler Jon Schweighardt graduated (he is the last hurdler to win state in both the 110 and 300 hurdles in the same year).   

[shepherd]

So I was thinking the other day about the "CCIW team of the decade".  Here is some of the pertinent data points I dug up:

Team	Total Record	Playoff Record	CCIW Championships
Augustana	73-30	2-2	1 Outright, 2 Co-Champs
Carthage	60-43	2-1 (04' Quarterfinals)	1 Co-Champs
Illinois Wesleyan	58-41	TBD	4 Co-Champs
Millikin	55-46	0-1	1 Co-Champs
North Central	74-33	3-4	1 Outright, 3 Co-Champs
Wheaton	89-24	8-5 (03' Quarterfinals, 08' Semifinals)	2 Outright, 3 Co-Champs

Couple notes:

1. Only 4 outright CCIW Champions in the decade, multiple 3 way ties.

2. While a wide representation of teams in the playoffs for the decade (6 of 8 teams), not too much progress in terms of making it deep into the playoffs.
 
3. Overall playoff record for the CCIW in the decade was 15-13 (8 of 13 losses to Mount Union, often within North Region).  How many more playoff victories would CCIW gained if MUC was moved to others regions, as they have of late?

4. While Wheaton led with 5 CCIW Championships, North Central has 4 in a row.  Illinois Wesleyan "quietly" collected 4.

5. Carthage had the stellar, breakout year in 04' and has been competitive since, but not to the same level.

6. Millikin was strong in 00' & 01', but struggled since until this year.

7. In the category of "a big if", but Wheaton could have been an 8 time CCIW champ in the decade if not for 2 heart breaking games against IWU and one against NCC.

and another big if..

If John Thorne would have left Wheaton Warrenville South in 1998 and came to North Central, the Cardinals would have 10 Championships this decade  

Ha... very nice.

If Mugsy was still coaching Wheaton would have 11 CCIW championships in ten years one given just because he is Mugsy.

[New Tradition]

If Mugsy was still coaching Wheaton would have 11 CCIW championships in ten years one given just because he is Mugsy.

Haha very nice.  k+  (for what it's worth)

[New Tradition]

These last few posts kind of remind me of "In the Year 2000" on Conan.

New Tradition:  "The future, Conan?"

Labamba:  "In the yeeeeeear two-thoooousaaaaannd!"

Conan:  "In a freak accident, John Thorne and Mike Swider will be caught in an electrical storm together, be struck by lighting, and will merge into one person.  This mega-coach will not be able to decide whether to coach at Wheaton or North Central."

Labamba: "In the yeeeeeear two-thoooousAAAAAAAAAAAANND!"

New Tradition: "The Bears will finally fire Lovie Smith.  They subsequently hire the new Torne-Swider megacoach, who leads them to a decade of consecutive Super Bowl championships.  Eventually, Megacoach will get bored of the ease at which the championships come, and he will retire.  He then cures cancer."

[NCF]

These last few posts kind of remind me of "In the Year 2000" on Conan.

New Tradition:  "The future, Conan?"

Labamba:  "In the yeeeeeear two-thoooousaaaaannd!"

Conan:  "In a freak accident, John Thorne and Mike Swider will be caught in an electrical storm together, be struck by lighting, and will merge into one person.  This mega-coach will not be able to decide whether to coach at Wheaton or North Central."

Labamba: "In the yeeeeeear two-thoooousAAAAAAAAAAAANND!"

New Tradition: "The Bears will finally fire Lovie Smith.  They subsequently hire the new Torne-Swider megacoach, who leads them to a decade of consecutive Super Bowl championships.  Eventually, Megacoach will get bored of the ease at which the championships come, and he will retire.  He then cures cancer."

Great Story-too bad Bear management would never go for it.

[mactitan]

North Park always pays the price for cranking out preachers, teachers, and nurses rather than captains of industry or people who can invent things like sugar-coated peanuts or hand tools that snap together.

Sager - That line cracked me up, but I take personal offense to it.  There's nothing wrong with cranking out preachers, and NPU does not have the market cornered on producing preachers.  I'm still working on my own alcohol-related snack food.

Sincerely,
Rev. Robb "The Fat Pastor" McCoy, IWU class of 1999

P.S. There is also a Shirk Fellowship Hall in Bloomington's Wesley United Methodist Church

[devildog29]

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This is testing my techie capabilities.  Hopefully the embed works.  If not the link is below.  Anyone else catch this play from the Bethel game? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMdIHuzJRbw

[oldnuthin]

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This is testing my techie capabilities.  Hopefully the embed works.  If not the link is below.  Anyone else catch this play from the Bethel game? 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMdIHuzJRbw

Outstanding!  Another IWU guy. they are multipling like rabbitts. ;)I only hope that Millikin continues moving forward, because then maybe I won't be the only poster here.

[Gregory Sager]

Sager - That line cracked me up, but I take personal offense to it.  There's nothing wrong with cranking out preachers, and NPU does not have the market cornered on producing preachers.

Didn't say that it did. If North Park did have the market cornered on producing preachers, though, TV evangelists would be a lot more sedate.

I'm still working on my own alcohol-related snack food.

Either the hard-boiled egg or the "blind robin" (smoked herring) is about due for a comeback, Robb. Back the right horse!

(In Bavaria, the traditional beer-related snack food is the weeping radish, a large white radish cut into spirals and salted so that the water inside it "weeps" out. Sounds strange, but it's very tasty.)

[Mugsy]

Sager - That line cracked me up, but I take personal offense to it.  There's nothing wrong with cranking out preachers, and NPU does not have the market cornered on producing preachers.

Didn't say that it did. If North Park did have the market cornered on producing preachers, though, TV evangelists would be a lot more sedate.

The imagery of any of the Covenant pastors from my church over the years as a TV evangelist gave me quite a chuckle.   

[devildog29]

Outstanding!  Another IWU guy. they are multipling like rabbitts. ;)I only hope that Millikin continues moving forward, because then maybe I won't be the only poster here.

I've been around for a while oldnuthin, but rather sporadically over the last few years.  I have lived out of state for a while now and do not get a chance to see many games, so I don't really like throwing my opinions in too often if I don't have a first hand view to support them.

[oldnuthin]

Outstanding!  Another IWU guy. they are multipling like rabbitts. ;)I only hope that Millikin continues moving forward, because then maybe I won't be the only poster here.

I've been around for a while oldnuthin, but rather sporadically over the last few years.  I have lived out of state for a while now and do not get a chance to see many games, so I don't really like throwing my opinions in too often if I don't have a first hand view to support them.

I can see from your # of posts you have been around awhile. The gist of my post was not intended to be negative, just that if Millikin keeps improving i will not be the "lone gunman" for them around here. Just in the little over a year that i have been on here, the bulk of the posters have been from NCC & Wheaton, which I think is a correlation to the success of both programs. I am just hoping for more success to equate to more posters as seems to be the case with all the recent IWU posters. I have seen IWU 3 times this season and am very impressed with their team, staff and the way the go about their business. Good Luck With Wabash.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Outstanding!  Another IWU guy. they are multipling like rabbitts. ;)I only hope that Millikin continues moving forward, because then maybe I won't be the only poster here.

I've been around for a while oldnuthin, but rather sporadically over the last few years.  I have lived out of state for a while now and do not get a chance to see many games, so I don't really like throwing my opinions in too often if I don't have a first hand view to support them.

I can see from your # of posts you have been around awhile. The gist of my post was not intended to be negative, just that if Millikin keeps improving i will not be the "lone gunman" for them around here. Just in the little over a year that i have been on here, the bulk of the posters have been from NCC & Wheaton, which I think is a correlation to the success of both programs. I am just hoping for more success to equate to more posters as seems to be the case with all the recent IWU posters. I have seen IWU 3 times this season and am very impressed with their team, staff and the way the go about their business. Good Luck With Wabash.

Unlike most conferences, the CCIW has regulars from every team, but posts naturally tend to be more frequent with success (though we were minus Millikin 'til you appeared).  If memory serves, Millikin is the only 'absentee' on the basketball board also - you stickin' around this winter?

[oldnuthin]

Outstanding!  Another IWU guy. they are multipling like rabbitts. ;)I only hope that Millikin continues moving forward, because then maybe I won't be the only poster here.

I've been around for a while oldnuthin, but rather sporadically over the last few years.  I have lived out of state for a while now and do not get a chance to see many games, so I don't really like throwing my opinions in too often if I don't have a first hand view to support them.

I can see from your # of posts you have been around awhile. The gist of my post was not intended to be negative, just that if Millikin keeps improving i will not be the "lone gunman" for them around here. Just in the little over a year that i have been on here, the bulk of the posters have been from NCC & Wheaton, which I think is a correlation to the success of both programs. I am just hoping for more success to equate to more posters as seems to be the case with all the recent IWU posters. I have seen IWU 3 times this season and am very impressed with their team, staff and the way the go about their business. Good Luck With Wabash.

Unlike most conferences, the CCIW has regulars from every team, but posts naturally tend to be more frequent with success (though we were minus Millikin 'til you appeared).  If memory serves, Millikin is the only 'absentee' on the basketball board also - you stickin' around this winter?

Sure if you would like totally uninformed opinions on basketball

[Mr. Ypsi]

Outstanding!  Another IWU guy. they are multipling like rabbitts. ;)I only hope that Millikin continues moving forward, because then maybe I won't be the only poster here.

I've been around for a while oldnuthin, but rather sporadically over the last few years.  I have lived out of state for a while now and do not get a chance to see many games, so I don't really like throwing my opinions in too often if I don't have a first hand view to support them.

I can see from your # of posts you have been around awhile. The gist of my post was not intended to be negative, just that if Millikin keeps improving i will not be the "lone gunman" for them around here. Just in the little over a year that i have been on here, the bulk of the posters have been from NCC & Wheaton, which I think is a correlation to the success of both programs. I am just hoping for more success to equate to more posters as seems to be the case with all the recent IWU posters. I have seen IWU 3 times this season and am very impressed with their team, staff and the way the go about their business. Good Luck With Wabash.

Unlike most conferences, the CCIW has regulars from every team, but posts naturally tend to be more frequent with success (though we were minus Millikin 'til you appeared).  If memory serves, Millikin is the only 'absentee' on the basketball board also - you stickin' around this winter?

Sure if you would like totally uninformed opinions on basketball

And that would differ from most posts, how...?