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usee

The other guy I had a hard time with was Millikin's Brian Blomquist on the OL. When your RB is a 1st teamer and you are the best lineman on that team, its tough not to get on that 1st team. Brian may end up there but based on only 1 conf win I think you have to give the nod to Terrance Clark over Blomquist. Plus Clark was blocking for the OPOY and Carthage won head to head.

dansand

Oh...what the heck...I'll be a homer and put in a plug for David Lee. He led the CCIW (in league games) in total offense and although his gross passing numbers were slightly less, he was more efficient than Jones. Plus, his team finished higher in the standings.

Against the CCIW:
TOTAL OFFENSE      Team Cl  G Rush Pass Plays TDR Total Yds/G
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1. Lee, David..... AUGI JR  7  234 1675   289  16  1909 272.7
3. Jones,Evan..... CART SR  7  -77 1877   294  15  1800 257.1

PASS EFFICIENCY    Team Cl  G Att Cmp Int  Pct.  Yds TD  Eff.
-------------------------------------------------------------
3. Lee, David..... AUGI JR  7 229 138   7  60.3 1675 11 131.4
5. Jones,Evan..... CART SR  7 259 147  11  56.8 1877 14 127.0


I don't really have a problem with Jones as the POY (or someone from NCC or Wheaton, although their respective balance on offense probably hurts them in consideration). I just wanted to make sure that Lee's year isn't overlooked.

usee

Dansand,

Its a great point and I considered Lee. I think it is probably a lot closer than people realize. David Lee was pretty outstanding this year. It wouldn't be a complete surprise to see him win OPOY to be honest but I don't think it will happen. Mostly because he is a Jr. and Jones is a Sr. and Jones was so remarkable last year but was in the shadow of Fanthorpe. My guess is Jones wins it but Lee certainly made it a more difficult discussion.

Also, in general, your comment about NCC and Wheaton is right on. Most years the OPOY would come from a team at the top of the standings but I think NCC and Wheaton had a lot of talented players to distribute the ball to. If Steve Hlavac was healthy and the NCC offense was a little more developed early in the season he could have challenged for that award IMO. Also, if Jordan Roberts had been the guy in Wheaton all year vs splitting time for 5 games, then either he or one of his recievers (Freddy Ellis) may have had better stats to make a run as well.

usee

Quote from: CCRM Fan on November 16, 2010, 03:15:16 AM
Quote from: Mugsy on November 15, 2010, 02:25:14 PM
QuoteNAPERVILLE, Ill. – Augustana’s Robert Wood, along with North Central’s Joey Michals and Shane Dierking were named the College Conference of Illinois & Wisconsin (CCIW) Football Players of the Week Monday.

Wood, a senior running back from Loves Park, Ill., and Rockford Boylan High School, rushed for a career-high 181 yards on 30 carries during the Vikings’ 20-17 win over Illinois Wesleyan in the season finale for both teams on Saturday. Wood recorded the highest rushing total by an Augustana running back since Mike Guzman gained 220 yards against Central of Iowa in the opening game of the 2005 season. The victory allowed the Vikings to finish the season 6-4 overall and 4-3 in the CCIW. It was the 31st winning season in the last 32 years for Augustana. Wood ended the year with 698 yards rushing on 154 attempts with seven touchdowns. He is a Pre-Medicine (Biology) major.

Michals, a sophomore linebacker from Frankfort, Ill., and Providence Catholic High School, tallied a career high 13 tackles, including four solo as the team’s middle linebacker, during North Central’s 61-7 victory over North Park on Saturday. The win clinched the Cardinals the outright CCIW title. Michals is an English-Literature major.

Dierking, a freshman return specialist from Wheaton, Ill., and Wheaton-Warrenville South High School, ran a punt back 78 yards for a touchdown just before halftime of the Cardinals’ victory over North Park. The punt return was the second longest in school history. Dierking also returned the opening kickoff 50 yards to set up North Central’s offense with a short field on its first possession. He is a Business major.


This is my first post and i was just wondering if anyone knows how the POW are chosen because looking through all the statistics i am confused as to some of the picks for POW. For example, this weeks defensive player of the week had 13 tackles (only 4 of them solo) and earned the DPOW honors, and i noticed that a few other players in the conference had statistically better performances?

CCRM Player...or CCRM Fan,

Welcome to the board.

I don't know, I think 13 tackles (solo or not) is pretty good. Consider the best defensive players in the league are averaging about 9-10 tackles a game. If you are "Jonesing" (no pun intended) for your boy Brian Hipchen, who had 3 INT vs Elmhurst, I may actually agree with you as holding Elmhurst to 6 points was the surprise of the weekend (at least for me, even though its what Mr Ypsi predicted).

Stagg Again!!

Excellent list USee.  The only other name that I'd throw in the hat for 2010 would be Willie Hayes from NCC.  He is tied for CCIW sack leader and his numbers are virtually identical to Garza's.  I also saw some real potential in Joe Furco from Elmhurst, but he is certainly not better than Evan Jones or David Lee - yet.  I think you may just see Furco's name on your list next year or the year after.

Mugsy

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Quote from: USee on November 16, 2010, 10:25:25 AM
Quote from: CCRM Fan on November 16, 2010, 03:15:16 AM

This is my first post and i was just wondering if anyone knows how the POW are chosen because looking through all the statistics i am confused as to some of the picks for POW. For example, this weeks defensive player of the week had 13 tackles (only 4 of them solo) and earned the DPOW honors, and i noticed that a few other players in the conference had statistically better performances?

CCRM Player...or CCRM Fan,

Welcome to the board.

I don't know, I think 13 tackles (solo or not) is pretty good. Consider the best defensive players in the league are averaging about 9-10 tackles a game. If you are "Jonesing" (no pun intended) for your boy Brian Hipchen, who had 3 INT vs Elmhurst, I may actually agree with you as holding Elmhurst to 6 points was the surprise of the weekend (at least for me, even though its what Mr Ypsi predicted).

Player of the Week has always confused me a bit.  Not that those who win on a week to week basis aren't worthy, but often there is another choice that seems more obvious.  I'm pretty sure that the strength of the opponent makes a difference, along with whether or not your team wins (not many POW from teams that lost).

For instance there was a week that Jordan Roberts had 280 yards passing, 3 TD's, plus 115 yards rushing and 1 TD, yet he wasn't the offensive player of the week.  

I'd need to go back to the CCIW site to see who won, but I recall it was someone who had a very, very solid game against one of the top teams.

I've gotten to the point that I focus solely recognizing those who won it and not who I think should have.  Everyone who wins it clearly had a significant impact on their team winning the game and thus is very deserving of the recognition.
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robertgoulet

Off topic, but wasn't there some talk a while back about NCC and Mt Union scheduling a home-at-home in the next year or two?

For some reason I thought I read that this was a done deal, but checking the UMU schedule for 2011-2013 there is no NCC to be found.

Any idea if this was ever a real possibility? If so, what happened?
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badgerwarhawk

Quote from: robertgoulet on November 16, 2010, 12:18:23 PM
Off topic, but wasn't there some talk a while back about NCC and Mt Union scheduling a home-at-home in the next year or two?

For some reason I thought I read that this was a done deal, but checking the UMU schedule for 2011-2013 there is no NCC to be found.

Any idea if this was ever a real possibility? If so, what happened?

NCC came to their senses?  ;)
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ncc_fan

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 16, 2010, 12:36:31 PM
Quote from: robertgoulet on November 16, 2010, 12:18:23 PM
Off topic, but wasn't there some talk a while back about NCC and Mt Union scheduling a home-at-home in the next year or two?

For some reason I thought I read that this was a done deal, but checking the UMU schedule for 2011-2013 there is no NCC to be found.

Any idea if this was ever a real possibility? If so, what happened?

NCC came to their senses?  ;)

I recall hearing that the NCC coaches and AD re-evaluated their non-conference strategy after the loss at ONU cost them a Pool C bid last year.

It will be interesting to see whether this year's playoff selections affect future non-conference scheduling.  Last year W-L record was everything and SOS was nothing. 

robertgoulet

Quote from: ncc_fan on November 16, 2010, 12:42:22 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 16, 2010, 12:36:31 PM
Quote from: robertgoulet on November 16, 2010, 12:18:23 PM
Off topic, but wasn't there some talk a while back about NCC and Mt Union scheduling a home-at-home in the next year or two?

For some reason I thought I read that this was a done deal, but checking the UMU schedule for 2011-2013 there is no NCC to be found.

Any idea if this was ever a real possibility? If so, what happened?

NCC came to their senses?  ;)

I recall hearing that the NCC coaches and AD re-evaluated their non-conference strategy after the loss at ONU cost them a Pool C bid last year.

It will be interesting to see whether this year's playoff selections affect future non-conference scheduling.  Last year W-L record was everything and SOS was nothing. 

That makes sense. It's unfortunate that the threat of not making the playoffs would cause match-ups such as this to not happen.

They need to expand the playoff field by 8. It would allow for a little more wiggle room for teams to schedule tough non-conference opponents and not get penalized as horribly.
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skunks_sidekick

I for one would LOVE a NCC/Mount Home & Home.  As stated previously, I love Chicago and would certainly make that a long weekend type trip to the windy city with a train ride out Naperville. 


ncc_fan

Quote from: robertgoulet on November 16, 2010, 01:03:55 PM
Quote from: ncc_fan on November 16, 2010, 12:42:22 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 16, 2010, 12:36:31 PM
Quote from: robertgoulet on November 16, 2010, 12:18:23 PM
Off topic, but wasn't there some talk a while back about NCC and Mt Union scheduling a home-at-home in the next year or two?

For some reason I thought I read that this was a done deal, but checking the UMU schedule for 2011-2013 there is no NCC to be found.

Any idea if this was ever a real possibility? If so, what happened?

NCC came to their senses?  ;)

I recall hearing that the NCC coaches and AD re-evaluated their non-conference strategy after the loss at ONU cost them a Pool C bid last year.

It will be interesting to see whether this year's playoff selections affect future non-conference scheduling.  Last year W-L record was everything and SOS was nothing. 

That makes sense. It's unfortunate that the threat of not making the playoffs would cause match-ups such as this to not happen.

They need to expand the playoff field by 8. It would allow for a little more wiggle room for teams to schedule tough non-conference opponents and not get penalized as horribly.

If they eliminated Pool C there would also be less disincentive to schedule those tough opponents from out of conference.  I'm not advocating that - I think those Pool C slots keeps late-season conference games exciting - but it's an alternative to expanding the number of playoff teams.

robertgoulet

Quote from: ncc_fan on November 16, 2010, 01:35:56 PM
Quote from: robertgoulet on November 16, 2010, 01:03:55 PM
Quote from: ncc_fan on November 16, 2010, 12:42:22 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 16, 2010, 12:36:31 PM
Quote from: robertgoulet on November 16, 2010, 12:18:23 PM
Off topic, but wasn't there some talk a while back about NCC and Mt Union scheduling a home-at-home in the next year or two?

For some reason I thought I read that this was a done deal, but checking the UMU schedule for 2011-2013 there is no NCC to be found.

Any idea if this was ever a real possibility? If so, what happened?

NCC came to their senses?  ;)

I recall hearing that the NCC coaches and AD re-evaluated their non-conference strategy after the loss at ONU cost them a Pool C bid last year.

It will be interesting to see whether this year's playoff selections affect future non-conference scheduling.  Last year W-L record was everything and SOS was nothing. 

That makes sense. It's unfortunate that the threat of not making the playoffs would cause match-ups such as this to not happen.

They need to expand the playoff field by 8. It would allow for a little more wiggle room for teams to schedule tough non-conference opponents and not get penalized as horribly.

If they eliminated Pool C there would also be less disincentive to schedule those tough opponents from out of conference.  I'm not advocating that - I think those Pool C slots keeps late-season conference games exciting - but it's an alternative to expanding the number of playoff teams.

If the point of a playoff is to have the best team win, I don't think you can eliminate the Pool C. There are always some very quality teams that get squeezed out as it is.

Increase the field by 8, give the top 2 seeds in each region a first round bye, and have at it.
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robertgoulet

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 16, 2010, 02:09:04 PM
It took a decade of wrangling to get the playoffs into a fifth week, from the 16-team to 28-team bracket. Not only would a six-week playoff never fly from a philosophical standpoint, the NCAA has also instituted a hard cap at 64-team brackets in every other sport (ones that can play more than once a week) and 32-team brackets in football.

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