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[bleedpurple]

What's to the rumor that one CCIW school is leaving and another one is joining?

Comes up 3-4 times a year.  I just replied with the thread on this not 3 weeks ago.  Rumor at best.  Highly likely will not happen.

North Central is moving to the WIAC so we can justify a #1 seed should we ever get another one

NCC will have every opportunity to justify their #1 seed on December 4th.  But maybe they are already looking ahead to their matchup with fellow #1 and well known football power Wesley. 

For the Cardinals, there will be NO looking ahead, I can assure you that.   The only team on their mind is St. Norbert.    We as fans though get the opportunity to look ahead....if not, what the heck would we be able to talk about on the boards??  

#1 Seeds beat St. Norbert by 42. At least that's what happened the last time the Green Knights faced one.  I really think the Cardinals should start focusing on Wesley.  They will be no cake walk for the Cardinals like the warm-up games leading to the semi's.   

[robertgoulet]

Is it true that the CCIW had an opportunity to add Wabash & DePauw in the 1990s but chose not to expand?  I recall hearing rumors about this at the time, including a rumor that the expansion proposal received a majority of votes but not the necessary supermajority.  Or I may have a very active imagination.

as recently as 2008 there was a CCIW athletic directors meeting directly related to that of expansion.  DePauw, St. Norberts and Monmouth (IL) had all inquired about joining the conference.  Not sure what the reasons were for not allowing them in.

Numerous schools have contacted the CCIW and inquired about joining it at one time or another in recent years. From what I've been told by various people, that list includes Aurora, Benedictine, Carroll, DePauw, Rose-Hulman (which is an associate member of the CCIW for men's and women's swimming), and St. Norbert. I've also been told by administrators from more than one CCIW school that there really isn't much interest in expansion among the eight member schools. Eight members is an excellent number for scheduling purposes, and, beyond that, there's reluctance to bring in new members related to reasons ranging from being too far from the Chicagoland geographic base of the league (i.e., DePauw, St. Norbert) to being too close (i.e., Benedictine, which is four miles down the street from North Central) to dilution of control over league policy to the prospect of having to divide the league into two divisions in some sports (an idea that meets with resistance in certain quarters).

The most substantive reason that I can envision causing a possible change of heart is automatic qualifiers. Seven is the minimum threshold for automatic bids to D3 tournaments, and if that were to change it could lead the CCIW to expand. Right now, the only CCIW-sponsored sports that aren't automatically qualifying are wrestling (only four participating schools) and men's tennis (only six participating schools).

It appears to me that, generally speaking, the people in charge of the CCIW's eight schools know a good thing when they see it and are reluctant to flout the old adage, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Did a little digging and found it 

[thunder38]

The all-CCIW team...

http://www.cciw.org/sports/2010/11/9/FB_1109105054.aspx?id=642

Congrats to all that made the real team! It's not as much of an honor as making USee's team, but close!

"My Team" was merely a guess at what the coaches would decide. In the end I missed 4 picks but got the rest right. I was very surprised Jordan Tassio wasn't 1st team as the past several years they have had 3 rb's on the 1st team. The coaches picked Jon Janus over my pick of Derek Sulo, Willie Hayes over my pick of Max Brooks , Mark Constantine over Tommy Burgraaf, and Joe Antonnacci over Tyler Langs as RS.

My beefs would be I am not sure how you leave Max Brooks off the 1st team. he was one of the best Dlineman I saw this year. (but Willie Hayes was pretty good too!!). Lots of great players on the DL (unfortunately most of them play for NCC). I also was really impressed with Peter Bulandr for NCC and almost placed him on my 1st team as well. I don't know how you leave Tommy Burggraf off the 1st team. He gave up ZERO sacks or hurries to NCC's 24 sack trio of garza, hayes, clendenning. He was blocking Clendenning of the game (who recorded 1 tackle for the game). If he isn't a 1st team OT I don't know what one looks like. Antonnacci vs Langs on the RS is fine. Not many people punted to Tyler langs in conference but I didn't see Antonnacci except for 1 game.

Congrats to all. Very deserving group and an entertaining year in the CCIW.

I agree wholeheartedly about Burggraf especially given the job he did against NCC.

I was a little confused about why Antonnacci got RS over Langs but you're right that a lot of teams tried to kick away from Langs and it makes sense with just conference stats.

Congrats to all those honored, a very deserving list.

[FormerCard]

What's to the rumor that one CCIW school is leaving and another one is joining?

Comes up 3-4 times a year.  I just replied with the thread on this not 3 weeks ago.  Rumor at best.  Highly likely will not happen.

North Central is moving to the WIAC so we can justify a #1 seed should we ever get another one

NCC will have every opportunity to justify their #1 seed on December 4th.  But maybe they are already looking ahead to their matchup with fellow #1 and well known football power Wesley. 

For the Cardinals, there will be NO looking ahead, I can assure you that.   The only team on their mind is St. Norbert.    We as fans though get the opportunity to look ahead....if not, what the heck would we be able to talk about on the boards??   

#1 Seeds beat St. Norbert by 42. At least that's what happened the last time the Green Knights faced one.  I really think the Cardinals should start focusing on Wesley.  They will be no cake walk for the Cardinals like the warm-up games leading to the semi's.   

I dont agree with that as all.  For a few reasons.   1. A coaching staff spends the entire week preparing and game planning for a team.  They have a routine they follow and they need to practice it and keep it consistent with every team they play.   2.  We need to beat 3 teams before even getting a chance at Wesley.     3.  I think you are kidding.              This actually makes me wonder about teams like UWW and Mount Union...do they look ahead often?  I would imagine they would.  Its obvious you werent serious about looking ahead, but it does bring up an interesting discussion.

[NCF]

What's to the rumor that one CCIW school is leaving and another one is joining?

Comes up 3-4 times a year.  I just replied with the thread on this not 3 weeks ago.  Rumor at best.  Highly likely will not happen.

North Central is moving to the WIAC so we can justify a #1 seed should we ever get another one

NCC will have every opportunity to justify their #1 seed on December 4th.  But maybe they are already looking ahead to their matchup with fellow #1 and well known football power Wesley. 

For the Cardinals, there will be NO looking ahead, I can assure you that.   The only team on their mind is St. Norbert.    We as fans though get the opportunity to look ahead....if not, what the heck would we be able to talk about on the boards??   

#1 Seeds beat St. Norbert by 42. At least that's what happened the last time the Green Knights faced one.  I really think the Cardinals should start focusing on Wesley.  They will be no cake walk for the Cardinals like the warm-up games leading to the semi's.   

I dont agree with that as all.  For a few reasons.   1. A coaching staff spends the entire week preparing and game planning for a team.  They have a routine they follow and they need to practice it and keep it consistent with every team they play.   2.  We need to beat 3 teams before even getting a chance at Wesley.     3.  I think you are kidding.              This actually makes me wonder about teams like UWW and Mount Union...do they look ahead often?  I would imagine they would.  Its obvious you werent serious about looking ahead, but it does bring up an interesting discussion.

As a parent of a player, I can assure you North Central is NOT looking ahead. Everything they do this week will focus on St. Norbert ONLY. If they win this game, next week's focus will be on their next opponent. I'm sure they would love the opportunity to play UWW but the team knows they have two other games to win before that is a reality.

[Son of Tailgater]

What's to the rumor that one CCIW school is leaving and another one is joining?

Comes up 3-4 times a year.  I just replied with the thread on this not 3 weeks ago.  Rumor at best.  Highly likely will not happen.

I agree that this is a rumor that constantly comes up and it most likely revolves around North Park leaving and Carol/Monmouth or some school of that nature being mentioned. Remember that the CCIW is not based around football only and that CCIW play is among all sports involved. So making decsions as an AD based on football only doesn't happen.

[Son of Tailgater]

The all-CCIW team...

http://www.cciw.org/sports/2010/11/9/FB_1109105054.aspx?id=642

Congrats to all that made the real team! It's not as much of an honor as making USee's team, but close!

"My Team" was merely a guess at what the coaches would decide. In the end I missed 4 picks but got the rest right. I was very surprised Jordan Tassio wasn't 1st team as the past several years they have had 3 rb's on the 1st team. The coaches picked Jon Janus over my pick of Derek Sulo, Willie Hayes over my pick of Max Brooks , Mark Constantine over Tommy Burgraaf, and Joe Antonnacci over Tyler Langs as RS.

My beefs would be I am not sure how you leave Max Brooks off the 1st team. he was one of the best Dlineman I saw this year. (but Willie Hayes was pretty good too!!). Lots of great players on the DL (unfortunately most of them play for NCC). I also was really impressed with Peter Bulandr for NCC and almost placed him on my 1st team as well. I don't know how you leave Tommy Burggraf off the 1st team. He gave up ZERO sacks or hurries to NCC's 24 sack trio of garza, hayes, clendenning. He was blocking Clendenning of the game (who recorded 1 tackle for the game). If he isn't a 1st team OT I don't know what one looks like. Antonnacci vs Langs on the RS is fine. Not many people punted to Tyler langs in conference but I didn't see Antonnacci except for 1 game.

Congrats to all. Very deserving group and an entertaining year in the CCIW.

I agree wholeheartedly about Burggraf especially given the job he did against NCC.

I was a little confused about why Antonnacci got RS over Langs but you're right that a lot of teams tried to kick away from Langs and it makes sense with just conference stats.

Congrats to all those honored, a very deserving list.

Congrats to everyone joining the CCIW All-conference team. It is a great honor to be recognized for all of your hard work and talents especially in one of the elite conferences in D3. It is something that you will always talk about and be able to hang your hat on.

I also want EVERYONE to keep in mind that these players did not get these honors on their own. Yes, lots of weight room time, good choices, playbook studying, leadership and hard work is why they are being recognized. But, there is a lot of credit to be given behind the scenes to Coaches (head and assistants), parents (grandparents, brothers/sisters, extended family) and most importantly their teammates. 

The most over looked players on every team are the back ups, scout teams and JV teams. There is no way that I or any one of these players would ever have made these lists without that support or level of competition in practice. They deserve a Kudos/ + Karma and more recognition than they get (which is little to none from outside). Great work and you should all be proud as a conference! 

Special shout out to Chris Schultz from Carthage for 1st team honors. He played at my high school and at my college and am very proud to know him and his family. Well deserved honors from a guy that early on in his freshman year needed some pushing from me to keep going. 

[ncc58]

Although he didn't use emoticons. bleedpurple's message was dripping with sarcasm. He bypassed the first three rounds and went directly to the semifinals.

What's to the rumor that one CCIW school is leaving and another one is joining?

Comes up 3-4 times a year.  I just replied with the thread on this not 3 weeks ago.  Rumor at best.  Highly likely will not happen.

North Central is moving to the WIAC so we can justify a #1 seed should we ever get another one

NCC will have every opportunity to justify their #1 seed on December 4th.  But maybe they are already looking ahead to their matchup with fellow #1 and well known football power Wesley. 

For the Cardinals, there will be NO looking ahead, I can assure you that.   The only team on their mind is St. Norbert.    We as fans though get the opportunity to look ahead....if not, what the heck would we be able to talk about on the boards??   

#1 Seeds beat St. Norbert by 42. At least that's what happened the last time the Green Knights faced one.  I really think the Cardinals should start focusing on Wesley.  They will be no cake walk for the Cardinals like the warm-up games leading to the semi's.   

I dont agree with that as all.  For a few reasons.   1. A coaching staff spends the entire week preparing and game planning for a team.  They have a routine they follow and they need to practice it and keep it consistent with every team they play.   2.  We need to beat 3 teams before even getting a chance at Wesley.     3.  I think you are kidding.              This actually makes me wonder about teams like UWW and Mount Union...do they look ahead often?  I would imagine they would.  Its obvious you werent serious about looking ahead, but it does bring up an interesting discussion.

[Wags]

Interesting article from the last time North Central played Whitewater. . .

http://www.uwwsports.com/news/2007/11/24/fb11242007_NorthCentral.aspx?path=football

A few lines that I found quite interesting are as follows:

"Fans got three games for the price of one Saturday.  Whitewater jumped out to a 21-0 lead in game one, North Central cut the margin to 24-21 in game two, and UW-W outscored NCC 35-7 in game three."

"I think it was a close game," UW-W Coach Lance Leipold said.  " It was a lot tighter than the score indicates.  Two things play a part in that.  One was our ability to use big plays and short scoring drives versus their ability to move the ball on us."

"We really didn't have any scoring drives today," said Leipold.  "That's got to be a little bit of a concern.  You've got to be able to drive the football on some people.  You like the big play, but I think tomorrow when we look at the film we've got to be able to drive the ball on some people by running, passing and mixing things, and we've shown that, but today we just didn't have that." 

"Hlavac led the Cardinal offense with nine catches for 155 yards and two scores.  Fanthorpe was 18-47 passing for 237 yards, and he also rushed for 62 yards.  Linebacker Matt Wenger was in on eleven tackles, added a tackle for a loss, a forced fumble and a quarterback sack." 

So makes me wonder if it will be bleeding purple or red if NCC makes it through to play Whitewater?    We still have Hlavac and Matt Wenger.  They do not have Justin Beaver who had 241 yards rushing that game.  It's will be a whole new ball game. 

LET'S GO CARDINALS!!

[02 Warhawk]

Interesting article from the last time North Central played Whitewater. . .

http://www.uwwsports.com/news/2007/11/24/fb11242007_NorthCentral.aspx?path=football

A few lines that I found quite interesting are as follows:

"Fans got three games for the price of one Saturday.  Whitewater jumped out to a 21-0 lead in game one, North Central cut the margin to 24-21 in game two, and UW-W outscored NCC 35-7 in game three."

"I think it was a close game," UW-W Coach Lance Leipold said.  " It was a lot tighter than the score indicates.  Two things play a part in that.  One was our ability to use big plays and short scoring drives versus their ability to move the ball on us."

"We really didn't have any scoring drives today," said Leipold.  "That's got to be a little bit of a concern.  You've got to be able to drive the football on some people.  You like the big play, but I think tomorrow when we look at the film we've got to be able to drive the ball on some people by running, passing and mixing things, and we've shown that, but today we just didn't have that." 

"Hlavac led the Cardinal offense with nine catches for 155 yards and two scores.  Fanthorpe was 18-47 passing for 237 yards, and he also rushed for 62 yards.  Linebacker Matt Wenger was in on eleven tackles, added a tackle for a loss, a forced fumble and a quarterback sack." 

So makes me wonder if it will be bleeding purple or red if NCC makes it through to play Whitewater?    We still have Hlavac and Matt Wenger.  They do not have Justin Beaver who had 241 yards rushing that game.  It's will be a whole new ball game. 

LET'S GO CARDINALS!!

Yea, I remember that game (I was a wreck at half )...wasn't your QB hurt that game too? Or am I thinking of a different team?

Your right, we don't have Beaver anymore, but the RB in place now is doing just as good. Hopefully both teams take care of business these next two weeks, to make these discussions relevant.

I'm originally from Lombard...so a (small  ) part of me wouldn't mind seeing Whitewater play in Naperville. Best of Luck!

[usee]

I think this is a totally different NCC team. That defense had some great players on a great offensive team. This NCC team has a great defense with some good offensive players. As I have said, it may not be since Augie's run in the 80's that the CCIW has had a team with a defense as good as NCC's. Is it enough for the playoffs? I think its good enough to get to a game with UWW but then NCC will face a team with a defense every bit as good as their own. 

[Wags]

Warhawk,

If both teams take care of their business in the next two weeks and Whitewater does come to Naperville, I am sure all of our North Central fans would be as gracious as Whitewater was to us!  We did have a great time and were really treated well, although we found the cannon a little annoying, and of course the cold weather wasn't much fun either. 

Hope to see you in December! 

[02 Warhawk]

Warhawk,

If both teams take care of their business in the next two weeks and Whitewater does come to Naperville, I am sure all of our North Central fans would be as gracious as Whitewater was to us!  We did have a great time and were really treated well, although we found the cannon a little annoying, and of course the cold weather wasn't much fun either.  

Hope to see you in December!  

most opponents do...and thanks the Wesley we no longer get to use it in the stadium during playoff games. So he's now on our hill oustide the stadium grounds.

I think this is a totally different NCC team. That defense had some great players on a great offensive team. This NCC team has a great defense with some good offensive players. As I have said, it may not be since Augie's run in the 80's that the CCIW has had a team with a defense as good as NCC's. Is it enough for the playoffs? I think its good enough to get to a game with UWW but then NCC will face a team with a defense every bit as good as their own.  

I think UWW's team is similar to when we met last. Explosive runningback with a great O-line, and a mobile QB that can throw. But we do have more depth at WR and RB this year. UWW's front seven on defense maybe just as solid as 2007's team, but our DB's this year are not as experienced as the 2007's secondary. On special teams, we no longer have our all-world kicker, instead we have a freshman who has been playing a lot better than the start of the year.

[coocooforcoekohawk]

Thinking about making a weekend out of it, they still have the tanks out at Cantigny?

[FormerCard]

Thinking about making a weekend out of it, they still have the tanks out at Cantigny?

They sure do...here are the museum hours      $5 to park your car and you can climb all over the tanks.

Robert R. McCormick Museum
Tue-Sun: 10am to 4pm

First Division Museum
Tue-Sun: 10am to 4pm

1S151 Winfield Road
Wheaton, IL 60189
630.668.5161