FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Mr. Ypsi]

Why stop there if you're using uncommon opponents :

Div III   N Central IL    beat    WI Eau Claire   20 - 6
   Div III   WI Eau Claire   beat    WI Oshkosh   20 - 14
   Div III   WI Oshkosh   beat    Lambuth   35 - 22
   NAIA   Lambuth   beat    Georgia St   23 - 14
   Div I-FCS   Georgia St   beat    Lamar   23 - 17
   Div I-FCS   Lamar   beat    South Dakota   24 - 20
   Div I - FCS   South Dakota   beat    Minnesota   41 - 38
   Div I - FBS   Minnesota   beat    Illinois   38 - 34
   Div I - FBS   Illinois   beat    Penn St   33 - 13
   Div I - FBS   Penn St   beat    Northwestern   35 - 21
   Div I - FBS   Northwestern   beat    Iowa   21 - 17
   Div I - FBS   Iowa   beat    Michigan St   37 - 6
   Div I - FBS   Michigan St   beat    Wisconsin   34 - 24
   Div I - FBS   Wisconsin   beat    Ohio St   31 - 18

You can now leave Illinois, Penn St., and Northwestern out of it, since Minnesota beat Iowa.   (Floyd of Rosedale goes north. )

With enough steps ANY non-winless d3 team (whose victim won any other games) can be shown to be better than ANY d1 team with a loss (as long as their conqueror was not undefeated).

[TCrawf5825]

    Just a comment about the NCC UWW game.  The Thornes are great at exploiting the other teams weakness. Today they viewed ONU as large and slow (at least slower than NCC) on both sides of the ball so they ran many different backs and wore ONU out.  NCC had 2 backs over 100 yards.  Not alot of passing today  The defense has been playing alot of people all year and did so again today wore them out as well.  They had heat on the QB all game.  You could just see the ONU players playing higher as the game wore on.  My hats off to the kids from both teams though for playing a good clean game.  I have no good info on UWW but believe the common opponent thing does not apply and have all  the confidence in the world that if UWW has a weakness Coach Thorne will find it and make the most of it

[usee]

Well Tcrawf, it's a good thing coach Leipold and his staff are taking a vacation on looking for opponents weaknesses to exploit or this game may end in a tie.

[TCrawf5825]

Confidence in my teams coach does not require sarcasm on your part.  then again sarcasm is the last resort of a man with nothing intellegent to say

Teams ride emotional highs and lows throughout the year, not to mention other intangibles like injuries etc.  Teams match-up differently.  I believe common opponents to be a poor indicator and like I said I am confident in coach Thornes ability to exploit the opponents weaknesses 

[The Roop]

Why stop there if you're using uncommon opponents :

Div III   N Central IL    beat    WI Eau Claire   20 - 6
   Div III   WI Eau Claire   beat    WI Oshkosh   20 - 14
   Div III   WI Oshkosh   beat    Lambuth   35 - 22
   NAIA   Lambuth   beat    Georgia St   23 - 14
   Div I-FCS   Georgia St   beat    Lamar   23 - 17
   Div I-FCS   Lamar   beat    South Dakota   24 - 20
   Div I - FCS   South Dakota   beat    Minnesota   41 - 38
   Div I - FBS   Minnesota   beat    Illinois   38 - 34
   Div I - FBS   Illinois   beat    Penn St   33 - 13
   Div I - FBS   Penn St   beat    Northwestern   35 - 21
   Div I - FBS   Northwestern   beat    Iowa   21 - 17
   Div I - FBS   Iowa   beat    Michigan St   37 - 6
   Div I - FBS   Michigan St   beat    Wisconsin   34 - 24
   Div I - FBS   Wisconsin   beat    Ohio St   31 - 18

You can now leave Illinois, Penn St., and Northwestern out of it, since Minnesota beat Iowa.   (Floyd of Rosedale goes north. )

With enough steps ANY non-winless d3 team (whose victim won any other games) can be shown to be better than ANY d1 team with a loss (as long as their conqueror was not undefeated).

So if NCC wins the National Championship, I'm guessing Beloit, Illinois College and St. Thomas can claim a share of the title by way of beating St. Norbert

[hyrooster]

Confidence in my teams coach does not require sarcasm on your part.  then again sarcasm is the last resort of a man with nothing intellegent to say

Teams ride emotional highs and lows throughout the year, not to mention other intangibles like injuries etc.  Teams match-up differently.  I believe common opponents to be a poor indicator and like I said I am confident in coach Thornes ability to exploit the opponents weaknesses 

But are you confident in someones ability on NCC'S sideline to count to 11? This number has seemed to cause problems for NCC special teams all year and I'm sure that UWW will make us pay for it to the tune of more than 3 points next week. 

[hyrooster]

Confidence in my teams coach does not require sarcasm on your part.  then again sarcasm is the last resort of a man with nothing intellegent to say

Teams ride emotional highs and lows throughout the year, not to mention other intangibles like injuries etc.  Teams match-up differently.  I believe common opponents to be a poor indicator and like I said I am confident in coach Thornes ability to exploit the opponents weaknesses 

But are you confident in someones ability on NCC'S sideline to count to 11? This number has seemed to cause problems for NCC special teams all year and I'm sure that UWW will make us pay for it to the tune of more than 3 points next week. 

I'm sure it's bad etiquette to post on your own post but it gets real old everytime your special teams go on the field and you hear fans in the stand yelling "did you count them coach" or my favorite is the lady by me who came out for her first game of the year to watch her grandson play but knew very little about football and kept counting along with everyone around her to 11 everytime either the O, D or special teams came on the field. She thought that's what you always do at a game. She thought it was great though to be a part of the crowd.
Seriously though, these are the little things that a Championship caliber can't and won't do if they want to win it all. These are preparation mistakes, not on the field penalties.
Enough said from me.
PS: Almost enough. This little oversight of special teams dumb penalties has been going on since week 1!   

[FormerCard]

Confidence in my teams coach does not require sarcasm on your part.  then again sarcasm is the last resort of a man with nothing intellegent to say

Teams ride emotional highs and lows throughout the year, not to mention other intangibles like injuries etc.  Teams match-up differently.  I believe common opponents to be a poor indicator and like I said I am confident in coach Thornes ability to exploit the opponents weaknesses 

But are you confident in someones ability on NCC'S sideline to count to 11? This number has seemed to cause problems for NCC special teams all year and I'm sure that UWW will make us pay for it to the tune of more than 3 points next week. 

I'm sure it's bad etiquette to post on your own post but it gets real old everytime your special teams go on the field and you hear fans in the stand yelling "did you count them coach" or my favorite is the lady by me who came out for her first game of the year to watch her grandson play but knew very little about football and kept counting along with everyone around her to 11 everytime either the O, D or special teams came on the field. She thought that's what you always do at a game. She thought it was great though to be a part of the crowd.
Seriously though, these are the little things that a Championship caliber can't and won't do if they want to win it all. These are preparation mistakes, not on the field penalties.
Enough said from me.
PS: Almost enough. This little oversight of special teams dumb penalties has been going on since week 1!   

Ugh..dont get me started on this...I posted after the Wheaton game about our substitution penalties on offense that day.  It is VERY discouraging.   I hope the Cardinals spend a little more time on substitution packages this week as they cannot afford to make those types of mistakes against UWW...cant happen.   

[FormerCard]

Why stop there if you're using uncommon opponents :

Div III   N Central IL    beat    WI Eau Claire   20 - 6
   Div III   WI Eau Claire   beat    WI Oshkosh   20 - 14
   Div III   WI Oshkosh   beat    Lambuth   35 - 22
   NAIA   Lambuth   beat    Georgia St   23 - 14
   Div I-FCS   Georgia St   beat    Lamar   23 - 17
   Div I-FCS   Lamar   beat    South Dakota   24 - 20
   Div I - FCS   South Dakota   beat    Minnesota   41 - 38
   Div I - FBS   Minnesota   beat    Illinois   38 - 34
   Div I - FBS   Illinois   beat    Penn St   33 - 13
   Div I - FBS   Penn St   beat    Northwestern   35 - 21
   Div I - FBS   Northwestern   beat    Iowa   21 - 17
   Div I - FBS   Iowa   beat    Michigan St   37 - 6
   Div I - FBS   Michigan St   beat    Wisconsin   34 - 24
   Div I - FBS   Wisconsin   beat    Ohio St   31 - 18

You can now leave Illinois, Penn St., and Northwestern out of it, since Minnesota beat Iowa.   (Floyd of Rosedale goes north. )

With enough steps ANY non-winless d3 team (whose victim won any other games) can be shown to be better than ANY d1 team with a loss (as long as their conqueror was not undefeated).

So if NCC wins the National Championship, I'm guessing Beloit, Illinois College and St. Thomas can claim a share of the title by way of beating St. Norbert

Absolutely they can.

[cardinaldad]

Mugsy,

What happened to Wheaton today? Good win by NCC, on to the next higher ranked opponent that Wheaton didn't have to play!!!

C'mon man! They've had our backs on this board big time all playoffs long! You have to support your conference in the playoffs. You want them to go deep into the playoffs (until they have to play you, of course). Otherwise your win over them doesn't have as much merit. Not very smart, man! Get some class!

[cardinaldad]

     My hats off to the kids from both teams though for playing a good clean game.

TCrawf5825 - Do you really believe ONU played a clean game? I was growing tired and concerned of their pile picking tactics, especially early on in the game. I don't know if they were trying to intimidate us or what.......but on at least to or three occasions NCC had players coming off the field gimping or shaken up after getting picked off! I hadn't seen anything that blatant since the Bear/Packer games when Forrest Greg was coaching the Packers. I can still envision Matt Suhey getting knocked off of the tv screen AFTER a play.........I saw REPEATED similar play on saturday. One time I can overlook ans attribute it to being an aggressive mistake. Repeated pile picking, I can't.

[cardinaldad]

     I haven't posted too much lately. Too busy. But, I've had the opportunity to read and enjoy what's been going on. Thanks to the board for having our (NCC's) backs. It's comforting to know that when push comes to shove, we can count on each other. Most people understand what the board and D3 football are all about.

      Wheaton, congrats on a fine season. The CCIW came sooooo close to having two teams in the quarter finals! How outstanding would that have been!

      Way to take care of business Cards!!!  Let's keep it going! We can't come out of the blocks like we did yeaterday, though.

     Matt Wenger, YOU ARE REDICULOUS!! What a game you had yesterday! Thanks for the entertainment. I couldn't think of a better way to spend a Saturday afternoon!

     
 

[washdupcard]

Confidence in my teams coach does not require sarcasm on your part.  then again sarcasm is the last resort of a man with nothing intellegent to say

Teams ride emotional highs and lows throughout the year, not to mention other intangibles like injuries etc.  Teams match-up differently.  I believe common opponents to be a poor indicator and like I said I am confident in coach Thornes ability to exploit the opponents weaknesses 

1.  Oh, I love idiots who can't spell...especially idiots who are trying to infer that the other poster did not make an INTELLIGENT comment.

2.  True sarcasm, by definition, is witty and intelligent.

[washdupcard]

Random Musings on NCC's Victory Yesterday.

1.  Sad to say it was the first game I attended this year, and I've only listened to a few others on the radio; therefore, I may not be as informed as others on this board. 

2.  I am extremely impressed with NCC's defense.  They have great athletes at every level of the D and Wenger continues to look special.  He slices through traffic better than any D3 backer I have ever seen and punishes the ball carrier on contact.

3.  The D-line also played very well.  Garza (the Right end?) flashed several times and hounded ONU on almost every pass attempt.

4.  Difficult to gauge the secondary, they were not tested much in the passing game.  They looked very good on run support...took some bad angles at times...but that will happen.  One of the safeties made a great play on the option in the second half for a decent loss and showed great anticipation on the option.

5.  This is definitely not an offense that has the firepower we have come to expect of NCC in the last 5+ years.  They seem to have nice depth at RB...Tasio, Kukuc, and the freshman Thompson all run with purpose and don't go down on first contact.  I thought Kukuc ran better than Tasio yesterday, Kukuc made several nice moves against penetration from ONU and turned the runs into nice gains.

6.  Stanek ran the option/pistol/wildcat well.  Threw some nice slants on hot reads when ONU blitzed off the edge.  Overall, he played well.  However, I'm not sure he is going to be able to do what he did yesterday to UWW.

7.  ONU looked like they were mentally out of the game at the end of the first half.

8.  Thought ONU's head coach made several dumb calls...one of which was going for it early in the third on a 4th and 6ish when you're on your own 40 yrd line.  Waaay to much time left in the game to get panicky and desperate.  Granted, NCC clearly had control of the game, but ONU was not a good position to take a calculated risk at that point.  Punt the ball (this was before NCC blocked a punt), make NCC go 80 yrds and give your Off a shorter field.

9.  I thought Coach Thorne's decision to go for it on 4th and 6 in the second half when you're up 18 points at their 45 was dumb as well.  Two possessions earlier NCC's punter kicked a beautiful ball within ONU's 5 yrd line.  Punt the ball, put the opponent in a position to make a dumb play.  Your Def. is dominating, don't put ONU into good field position when they haven't shown the ability to move the ball into your zone on their own.  Granted, it didn't backfire, but if you're playing UWW next week you absolutely punt the ball.  If its 4th an 3 i get it...but not on 4th and 6th.  You don't have Kniss or Fanthorpe anymore.

10. I'm very worried about NCC's offense vs. UWW's Defense next week.  More to come on this...

[TCrawf5825]

  I have two masters degrees, so much for being an idiot.  Washed-up is probably a good name for you if your reduced to insults on a chat board. Here is your websters definition of sarcasm straight from websters

"a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain" nowhere does it mention intelligent ( is that good enough for you ) 

As far as the mistakes go yes they are avoidable but your critising (mispelled for you benefit) a coach who has taken the team farther than it is ever gone in it's history.  Maybe if your so smart you can be his successor